Women of a Certain Stage
In this episode, Lauren sits down with Lucy, a newly graduated Women of a Certain Stage Menopause Coach, for an honest and deeply personal conversation about living with endometriosis, adenomyosis, and PCOS — and navigating menopause not once, but three times. Twice chemically, and once surgically following a full hysterectomy and oophorectomy at just 33. Lucy shares the raw reality of years of misdiagnosis, debilitating pain, and a medical system that too often left her without answers or adequate support. Together, Lauren and Lucy unpack what chemical and surgical menopause actually feel like, what recovery really looks like beyond the four-to-six week advice, and why the conversation around different types of menopause is so critically missing from mainstream awareness. They explore the psychological impact of surgical menopause, the importance of asking better questions before going into theatre, and why workplace menopause policies need to go beyond awareness sessions to create real, meaningful change. And through it all — with warmth, humour, and hard-won wisdom — Lucy explains why she chose to turn her experience into a career supporting other women through their own menopause journeys. 00:00 Introduction 00:37 Lucy's background — from financial services to menopause coaching 05:46 The beginning of Lucy's journey — periods, pain, and being told to crack on 07:15 Early diagnosis of precancerous cervical cells and PCOS 08:44 Understanding PCOS — what it is and why it's so often missed 09:06 Diagnosis of endometriosis and adenomyosis 10:21 Explaining the difference between endometriosis and adenomyosis 13:01 The fertility miracle — having children against the odds 13:22 The decision to have a full hysterectomy at 33 18:51 Life after hysterectomy — the good, the challenging, and the things nobody tells you 20:10 Vaginal cuffs, cervical removal, and recovery beyond six weeks 22:27 What Lucy wishes she had known before surgery 25:21 Chemical menopause — what it is and why Lucy went through it twice 27:09 HRT during chemical menopause — and a severe reaction to the Mirena coil 29:27 Why Lucy chose menopause coaching over endometriosis advocacy 31:23 Being turned away from counselling and local support groups for being "too young" 33:28 Why different types of menopause need to be part of the conversation 35:25 Choosing Women of a Certain Stage — and what made it stand out 38:03 Why Lauren trains others to do the same work 38:58 What's next for Lucy — podcasts, corporate sessions, and the Employment Rights Bill 40:19 The importance of context in workplace menopause conversations 44:32 Lucy's biggest takeaway from the Menopause Coach Diploma 47:04 What Lucy would say to someone sitting on the fence about training 50:54 Lucy's message to anyone facing perimenopause, chemical menopause, or hysterectomy Connect with Lucy: TikTok | Instagram | Facebook: @themenopausemom Business: Black Mirror Advisory Meet your host Lauren Chiren Lauren Chiren is a leading voice in menopause awareness and workplace inclusion, dedicated to ensuring no one navigates menopause alone. As the Founder and CEO of Women of a Certain Stage, she works with organisations worldwide to create menopause-savvy and supportive environments. With a background in psychology, sports therapy, and nutrition, and an extensive suite of coaching certifications, Lauren is on a mission to train 20,000 Menopause Coaches and Champions, equipping them with the tools to support individuals and workplaces through this transformative life stage. Join her as she breaks the silence, challenges the stigma, and empowers people to thrive at midlife and beyond. About Women of a Certain Stage We are committed to transforming the menopause experience — both for individuals and the organisations that support them. Our mission is to empower people through education, advocacy, and expert-led training, ensuring menopause is no longer a barrier to confidence, health, or career success. Find out more: https://www.womenofacertainstage.com [https://www.womenofacertainstage.com] Connect with Lauren LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenchiren/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenchiren/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themenopausecoach/ [https://www.instagram.com/themenopausecoach/] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WomenOfACertainStage [https://www.facebook.com/WomenOfACertainStage] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@womenofacertainstage [https://www.youtube.com/@womenofacertainstage] Twitter/X: https://x.com/LaurenChiren [https://x.com/LaurenChiren]
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