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During his second term, President Trump has upended 60 years of civil rights, largely under the guise of attacking diversity, equity and inclusion. Nikole Hannah-Jones, who covers racial injustice and civil rights for The New York Times Magazine, discusses the end of an era, and the growing fears of what a post-civil rights government will mean for Black Americans. Guest: Nikole Hannah-Jones [https://www.nytimes.com/by/nikole-hannah-jones], a domestic correspondent for The New York Times Magazine covering racial injustice and civil rights. Background reading:  * How Mr. Trump upended 60 years of civil rights in two months [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/magazine/trump-civil-rights-law-discrimination.html]. * The “colorblind” campaign [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/magazine/civil-rights-affirmative-action-colorblind.html] to undo civil rights progress. Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Tariffs are at their highest rate in nearly a century, and the labor market is weakening. These are volatile times for the U.S. economy — but the stock market keeps going up. Joe Rennison, a reporter covering financial markets for The New York Times, explains what is going on. Guest: Joe Rennison [https://www.nytimes.com/by/joe-rennison], a financial reporter for The New York Times. Background reading:  * Read about the factors helping markets climb past bad news [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/15/business/tariffs-stock-market-records.html]. * The specter of a trade war between Washington and Beijing has the potential to roil markets [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/business/stock-market-trump-tariffs.html]. Photo: Jeenah Moon/Reuters For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

On Friday, “Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere” will be released in theaters. Rather than chronicling Bruce’s entire life, the film focuses on the making of his stripped-down 1982 album “Nebraska” and on his concurrent mental health struggles. This movie is the latest in a long history of musician biopics featuring stars like Bob Dylan, Loretta Lynn, Eminem and Elvis Presley. Hollywood clearly loves telling the stories of influential artists. In this episode, Gilbert Cruz chats with Lindsay Zoladz, a pop music critic for The Times, and Joe Coscarelli, a Times culture reporter, about the tropes of the genre and their favorite films that break the mold. On Today’s Episode: Lindsay Zoladz [https://www.nytimes.com/by/lindsay-zoladz], a pop music critic at The Times and the writer of The Amplifier [https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-amplifier] newsletter. Joe Coscarelli [https://www.nytimes.com/by/joe-coscarelli], a culture reporter at The Times and co-host of “Popcast. [https://www.nytimes.com/column/popcast-pop-music-podcast]” Additional Reading: The Boss Finally Gets a Biopic, Just Not the One We Expected [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/28/movies/bruce-springsteen-biopic-jeremy-allen-white.html] He’s Ringo. And Nobody Else Is. [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/arts/music/ringo-starr-interview.html] Why Music Movies Stink: ‘Back to Black’ + ‘The Idea of You’ Reactions [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_YDzdTdmAU] Joe Coscarelli’s “Bobby + Joanie” playlist [https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/bobby-and-joanie/pl.u-e98lM2msW8qXeG] Photo: 20th Century Studios Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Attacks on the site are piling up. Its co-founder says trust the process. * Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.com * Watch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast] * For transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/theinterview [https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview] Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Under normal circumstances, the profound pain of a government shutdown compels both parties to negotiate a quick resolution on behalf of the American people. But, so far, nothing about this shutdown is normal. Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Tyler Pager, Catie Edmondson and Tony Romm sit down to discuss why this shutdown feels so different. Guest: * Tyler Pager [https://www.nytimes.com/by/tyler-pager], a White House correspondent for The New York Times, covering President Trump and his administration. * Catie Edmondson [https://www.nytimes.com/by/catie-edmondson], a congressional correspondent for The New York Times. * Tony Romm [https://www.nytimes.com/by/tony-romm], a reporter covering economic policy and the Trump administration for The New York Times, based in Washington. Background reading:  * President Trump’s unilateral spending cuts could complicate a shutdown deal [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/us/politics/trump-unilateral-spending-cuts-shutdown.html]. * The Trump administration said it would pay some ICE and T.S.A. agents [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/business/trump-ice-pay.html] during the shutdown. Photo: Tierney L. Cross/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.