Finding Nancy: The Nancy Guthrie Investigation

Nancy Guthrie's Hoaxer Walks With THIS Sentence

24 min · 13 jul 2026
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Six months into the search for Nancy Guthrie, one case tied to her disappearance is finally over — and it's not about finding her. A California man pleaded guilty to sending the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands while agents were still actively searching.  The sentence is what has people talking. His charge was pled down to harassment, which caps at two years federally, and the final sentence was five years of probation, both counts running concurrently. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer called the outcome a travesty and warned it could set a precedent for the copycats still sending in fake notes — a group nicknamed the TMZ Twelve, which the FBI has reportedly signaled are likely not legitimate.  Two other communications are being treated as potentially real. The first is considered the actual ransom note — four million dollars, an escalation threat to six million, and a threat on Nancy's life. The second is an apology letter sent only to local television stations, expressing remorse and describing her death as accidental. Both notes reportedly trace back to the same IP address, one of the few consistent threads investigators have to work with.  We also dig into Porch Guy, someone tied to the case who remains unidentified publicly and hasn't been taken into custody, despite tools like highway checkpoints that have worked in similar cases before.  We lay out the sentence, the notes, and exactly where this investigation stands six months in.  New episode is up now — link below.  Social Links & Legal Footer  Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/]  Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1]  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod]  X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod]  This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.  Hashtags  #NancyGuthrie #RansomHoax #NancyGuthrieCase #TMZTwelve #Bitcoin #FBIInvestigation #TulsaOklahoma #PorchGuy #TrueCrimePodcast #UnsolvedMystery

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Nancy Guthrie: The Note That Confirmed The Worst

Six months into the search for Nancy Guthrie, this episode goes deeper into the one piece of evidence that may matter more than everything else combined: a note her family received that investigators still won't rule out.  She was eighty-four, last seen the night blood was found on her porch and a masked figure appeared on her own doorbell camera. Since then, more than one note claiming responsibility has surfaced. Most have been confirmed as hoaxes. The one that hasn't is reportedly the one that changes how this entire case should be read, including what it may confirm about her fate.  Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team break down what that note reportedly says, how it lines up against the blood evidence and the doorbell footage, and why the FBI continues to publicly frame this as a kidnapping-for-ransom case even as the physical evidence complicates that theory. The show lays out a detailed theory of what happened that night, built entirely on what's been confirmed so far, including the possibility that whoever was involved never intended for the night to end the way it reportedly did.  This episode also looks closely at the toll six months of uncertainty has taken on Savannah Guthrie, who has continued to appear on national television throughout the search for her mother, and asks what the public owes families like hers when a case is this drawn out.  For everyone who has followed Nancy Guthrie's case from the beginning, this is the update that finally moves the timeline forward.  Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/]  Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1]  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod]  X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod]  This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.  Hashtags  #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieCase #TrueCrimePodcast #MissingPersons #FBI #Arizona #UnsolvedCase #ColdCase #HiddenKillers

Gisteren23 min
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Nancy Guthrie's Hoaxer Walks With THIS Sentence

Six months into the search for Nancy Guthrie, one case tied to her disappearance is finally over — and it's not about finding her. A California man pleaded guilty to sending the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands while agents were still actively searching.  The sentence is what has people talking. His charge was pled down to harassment, which caps at two years federally, and the final sentence was five years of probation, both counts running concurrently. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer called the outcome a travesty and warned it could set a precedent for the copycats still sending in fake notes — a group nicknamed the TMZ Twelve, which the FBI has reportedly signaled are likely not legitimate.  Two other communications are being treated as potentially real. The first is considered the actual ransom note — four million dollars, an escalation threat to six million, and a threat on Nancy's life. The second is an apology letter sent only to local television stations, expressing remorse and describing her death as accidental. Both notes reportedly trace back to the same IP address, one of the few consistent threads investigators have to work with.  We also dig into Porch Guy, someone tied to the case who remains unidentified publicly and hasn't been taken into custody, despite tools like highway checkpoints that have worked in similar cases before.  We lay out the sentence, the notes, and exactly where this investigation stands six months in.  New episode is up now — link below.  Social Links & Legal Footer  Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/]  Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1]  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod]  X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod]  This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.  Hashtags  #NancyGuthrie #RansomHoax #NancyGuthrieCase #TMZTwelve #Bitcoin #FBIInvestigation #TulsaOklahoma #PorchGuy #TrueCrimePodcast #UnsolvedMystery

13 jul 202624 min
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Nancy Guthrie's Two Notes Don't Add Up to One Kidnapper

Nancy Guthrie has now been missing for five months, taken from her Tucson home at 84 years old, and the case has produced more written communications than actual leads. Start with the notes. One reportedly came from the man who took her, describing her as at rest somewhere in nature. A second, sent to a Tucson television station days later, was described by law enforcement as a legitimate communication from the actual kidnappers, and reportedly claimed she had died shortly after being taken. If real, it may be the closest thing to a written confession this case has produced. Then there's TMZ. One tipster emailed the outlet claiming urgency had passed. A separate, repeat emailer has claimed to have a phone containing video of Nancy and her alleged kidnapper from what was probably her last day. The FBI has already arrested multiple people for sending fake ransom notes tied to this case, and Sheriff Nanos has dismissed the newest claim as likely another one. But the FBI is reportedly investigating that same emailer at the same time, a contradiction no one in law enforcement has explained. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer and criminal defense attorney Bob Motta break down what each communication actually proves, how investigators try to authenticate a note when there's no body, and why efforts to independently confirm Nancy's death have reportedly failed. A first note demanded millions. A second offered her body back for close to the same amount. Whether that points to one plan falling apart or two people working the same case is still an open question. All claims here are reported and unconfirmed, and no one has been charged. This is everything filed and reported so far, laid out in order.  SOCIAL LINKS & LEGAL FOOTER  Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/]  Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1]  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod]  X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod]  This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.  HASHTAGS  #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #RansomNote #FBI #JenniferCoffindaffer #BobMotta #Tucson #PimaCounty #TrueCrime

12 jul 20261 h 1 min
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Nancy Guthrie: The Note That Might Be a Confession

Five months after Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped from her home, a detail that had been kept private was finally made public. A second note sent to a Tucson station days after the abduction claimed Nancy died shortly after she was taken. The senders expressed regret. They made no more demands. Investigators have reportedly described the note as a legitimate communication from the actual kidnappers. For the case-specific audience following every development: criminal defense attorney Bob Motta evaluates what that note means in a courtroom. If investigators can link the note to a suspect through forensic or digital evidence, the content alone may function as an admission. The claim that Nancy died in their custody, combined with regret and cessation of demands, carries legal weight that goes beyond a ransom communication. The discussion also addresses the anonymous emailer’s latest demand to TMZ — claiming to possess a phone with video of Nancy and an alleged kidnapper — and Harvey Levin’s challenge for the emailer to produce a single screenshot, which was refused. The FBI continues investigating while Sheriff Nanos has publicly dismissed the emailer as likely fraudulent. Tony Brueski and Bob Motta. End Links: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] Disclaimer: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags: #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieCase #BobMotta #DefenseDiaries #RansomNote #Confession #FBI #Tucson #TrueCrime

1 jul 202636 min
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What the FBI Did About Nancy Guthrie’s Fake Ransom Notes Changes This Entire Case

Five months after Nancy Guthrie was allegedly taken from her Tucson home, the sheriff leading the case went on local radio and said he thinks the FBI has made “a number of arrests” for fake ransom notes. He thinks. The lead investigator doesn’t know the details of what the FBI has done inside his own investigation. Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke take apart the listener questions that keep flooding the comments — starting with what the sheriff’s uncertainty tells you about the gap between these agencies. Nanos is dismissing the TMZ emailer as a fraud while the FBI is reportedly spending resources to identify that person. Harvey Levin offered to pay the Bitcoin and follow the money. The FBI ghosted him, then told him to stop. The arrests, the agency friction, the emailer who keeps coming back, the million-dollar reward nobody claims — and a sheriff under recall pressure who sounds like he’s learning about FBI activity from the same news cycle as everyone else. Tony and Robin push into all of it. A Hidden Killers investigation. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #RobinDreeke #FBI #ChrisNanos #HarveyLevin #PimaCounty #JusticeForNancy

30 jun 202627 min