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162 | The "Home Field Advantage" Sales Process: How a 14-Person HVAC Shop Sells $25K Systems

35 min Β· 6 jul 2026
aflevering 162 | The "Home Field Advantage" Sales Process: How a 14-Person HVAC Shop Sells $25K Systems artwork

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What if the secret to higher HVAC tickets wasn't a better pitch, but a better room? Justin Deese sits down with Ryan St. Michel of Grove Mechanical to break down the showroom sales process that tripled revenue in a town of just 7,200 people. In this Freedom Blueprint Podcast episode, Ryan shares how desperation pushed him away from bottom-of-the-barrel pricing and into a top-down selling system β€” five options, premium-first, every time. Then he walks through the purpose-built showroom that closes the deal: dual TVs, a wall of Google reviews, working equipment customers can touch and hear, and fresh chocolate chip cookies. Whether you run a small shop or think "that won't work in my market," this is a blueprint for differentiating on experience instead of price. ⏱️ VIDEO CHAPTERS 0:00 - Meet Ryan St. Michel & "Motivational Bullying" 2:30 - Buying the Family Business & Tripling Revenue 4:13 - Where the Unique Sales Process Came From 6:30 - The Shift to Top-Down Selling & Five-Option Quotes 9:06 - Why More Options Beats One Bottom-of-the-Barrel System 10:05 - Top-Down Pricing and Beating Sticker Shock 12:17 - Walking Through the Full Lead-to-Sale Process 13:50 - Inside the Showroom: TVs, Reviews & Live Equipment 16:00 - The Chocolate Chip Cookie Strategy 17:00 - Home-Field Advantage & Building Trust 20:09 - Why 95% of Customers Come In to Buy 23:00 - "That Won't Work in My Market" β€” Debunked 24:34 - Shop Tours, Pack-Outs & Efficiency Wins 27:00 - KPIs, One-on-Ones & Coaching Techs to Sell 30:03 - Future Goals: Profit, People & Buying Back Time 🎯 IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: βœ… Why Ryan switched from one-option, bottom-up quotes to five-option, top-down selling βœ… The "leave your mother in the truck" rule for recommending premium systems βœ… How to build a distraction-free showroom that does the selling for you (TVs, reviews, live equipment β€” and cookies) βœ… How ~95% of customers agree to come in for the in-person presentation βœ… Why the "that won't work in my small market" excuse is costing you money βœ… KPI tracking and one-on-ones that uncover the real reason techs aren't selling βœ… Pack-out systems that cut a furnace install from 8 hours to 3.5 "If you don't know you can have it, how would you ever buy it?" β€” Ryan St. Michel If you own or run a home service business and you've been competing on price instead of experience, this episode will change how you think about your sales process. 🎧 Welcome to The Freedom Blueprint Podcast β€” real conversations with home service business owners who are leading better, growing faster, and building businesses that work for them. πŸ‘‰ Subscribe so you don't miss the next episode πŸ‘‰ Share this with a contractor who needs to stop competing on price πŸ‘€ ABOUT THE GUEST Ryan St. Michel is the third-generation owner of Grove Mechanical, an HVAC company in Crookston, Minnesota. πŸ”— RESOURCES & LINKS * Grove Mechanical [https://grovemech.com/] * Connect with Ryan: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/grovemechanical/] πŸ“£ ENJOYED THIS EPISODE? Follow Freedom Blueprint Podcast and leave a rating & review β€” it helps more contractors find the show. Share this episode with an owner who needs to hear it. #HomeServiceBusiness #HVACBusiness #ContractorMarketing #FreedomBlueprint #JustinDeese #HVACSales #ServiceBusinessGrowth #SalesProcess #ContractorTips #BusinessGrowth #Showroom #TopDownSelling #SmallBusinessGrowth #TechnicianTraining #CustomerExperience Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

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aflevering 164 | The Trap of Doing Too Much: Why Your Business Can't Run Without You artwork

164 | The Trap of Doing Too Much: Why Your Business Can't Run Without You

Most leaders think doing everything themselves is proof of their commitment. It's actually proof of how little they've built around them β€” and it's quietly costing them their business and their team's growth. When you catch yourself finishing work someone else could've done, there's one question that changes everything: are you leading, or are you just the bottleneck? In this solo episode, Justin Deese breaks down the trap of doing too much β€” why it looks like dedication but is actually keeping your business dependent on you. He opens up with his own story: years spent as the bottleneck, convinced he was just the hardest worker in the building, when the truth was he didn't trust anyone else to do it his way. That distinction between commitment and control is the one most leaders miss, and it's quietly costing them a team that can think for itself. ⏱️ VIDEO CHAPTERS 0:00 β€” Cold Open: Still at the Shop at 7 PM 0:45 β€” Welcome to the Freedom Blueprint Podcast 1:15 β€” The Trap That Looks Like Dedication 1:45 β€” Justin's Confession: Wearing Exhaustion Like a Trophy 2:30 β€” What Control Is Really Costing You 3:15 β€” The Jimmy Story: How "Helping" Trains Dependence 4:00 β€” Three Reasons Leaders Hold On Too Tight 5:15 β€” Five Moves to Climb Out of the Trap 7:00 β€” The Double Win: A Business (and Team) That Can Stand Without You 7:45 β€” Justin's Challenge: Hand One Thing Off Today 🎯 IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: βœ… Why doing too much isn't dedication β€” it's a sign of how little you've built around you βœ… How jumping in too fast trains your team to stop bringing solutions and start bringing problems βœ… The three real reasons leaders won't let go (faster, safer, feels good) β€” and why naming yours is the first step βœ… The five practical moves to start delegating today, from making two lists to coaching instead of rescuing βœ… Why a mistake on your team's part is the moment leadership happens, not proof you should take it back Average leaders wear their exhaustion like a trophy and call it dedication. Great leaders have the courage to hand off what matters and the patience to let their people grow into it. If you've built a business that can't run without you, this is the conversation you've been avoiding. 🎧 Welcome to The Freedom Blueprint Podcast β€” real conversations to help home service business owners lead better, grow faster, and keep crushing it. πŸ‘‰ Subscribe so you don't miss the next episode πŸ‘‰ Share this with a leader who's carrying too much #HomeServiceBusiness #HVACBusiness #PlumbingBusiness #Leadership #ContractorTips #TeamBuilding #FreedomBlueprint #JustinDeese #BusinessGrowth #Delegation Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

20 jul 20267 min
aflevering 163 | Can't vs. Won't β€” The Leadership Mistake Bleeding Your Business Dry artwork

163 | Can't vs. Won't β€” The Leadership Mistake Bleeding Your Business Dry

Most leaders are bleeding money and morale every single day, and never realize it, because they've got the wrong people in the wrong seats. When someone on your team is struggling, there's one question that changes everything: is it a can't or a won't? In this solo episode, Justin Deese breaks down the difference between ability and willingness, why you can't coach one of them, and exactly what to do about the other. He opens up with his own story: growing up convinced he'd play pro baseball, with all the willingness and work ethic in the world, and still not having the ability to get there. That distinction is the one most leaders miss, and it's quietly costing them their best people and their bottom line. ⏱️ VIDEO CHAPTERS 0:00 - Cold Open: The Wrong People in the Wrong Seats 0:45 - The Biggest Leadership Mistake in Home Service 1:15 - Justin's Baseball Story: All the Willingness, None of the Ability 2:30 - Ability vs. Willingness: The Two Things That Determine Fit 3:30 - Why Coaching Has a Ceiling 4:15 - How to Tell the Difference (Inconsistency vs. Effort Without Results) 5:30 - The Decision: Same Seat, Different Seat, or Different Bus 6:45 - The Leader's Playbook: Diagnose, Talk, Offer a Path Forward 8:00 - It Was Never About Being a Good Person 🎯 IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: βœ… Why the wrong people in the wrong seats is a silent, daily cost most leaders don't see βœ… How to tell a "can't" (ability) apart from a "won't" (willingness) β€” and why they need completely different responses βœ… Why coaching has a ceiling, and why that's nobody's fault βœ… The real symptoms: inconsistency signals willingness, effort without results signals ability βœ… The three-step playbook: diagnose honestly, have the direct conversation, offer a real path forward Average leaders let people sit in seats they were never built for. Great leaders have the courage to see it clearly β€” and the heart to handle it right. If you lead a home service team, this is the conversation you've been avoiding. 🎧 Welcome to The Freedom Blueprint Podcast β€” real conversations to help home service business owners lead better, grow faster, and keep crushing it. πŸ‘‰ Subscribe so you don't miss the next episode πŸ‘‰ Share this with a leader who needs to hear it #HomeServiceBusiness #HVACBusiness #PlumbingBusiness #Leadership #ContractorTips #TeamBuilding #FreedomBlueprint #JustinDeese #BusinessGrowth #Hiring Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

13 jul 20268 min
aflevering 162 | The "Home Field Advantage" Sales Process: How a 14-Person HVAC Shop Sells $25K Systems artwork

162 | The "Home Field Advantage" Sales Process: How a 14-Person HVAC Shop Sells $25K Systems

What if the secret to higher HVAC tickets wasn't a better pitch, but a better room? Justin Deese sits down with Ryan St. Michel of Grove Mechanical to break down the showroom sales process that tripled revenue in a town of just 7,200 people. In this Freedom Blueprint Podcast episode, Ryan shares how desperation pushed him away from bottom-of-the-barrel pricing and into a top-down selling system β€” five options, premium-first, every time. Then he walks through the purpose-built showroom that closes the deal: dual TVs, a wall of Google reviews, working equipment customers can touch and hear, and fresh chocolate chip cookies. Whether you run a small shop or think "that won't work in my market," this is a blueprint for differentiating on experience instead of price. ⏱️ VIDEO CHAPTERS 0:00 - Meet Ryan St. Michel & "Motivational Bullying" 2:30 - Buying the Family Business & Tripling Revenue 4:13 - Where the Unique Sales Process Came From 6:30 - The Shift to Top-Down Selling & Five-Option Quotes 9:06 - Why More Options Beats One Bottom-of-the-Barrel System 10:05 - Top-Down Pricing and Beating Sticker Shock 12:17 - Walking Through the Full Lead-to-Sale Process 13:50 - Inside the Showroom: TVs, Reviews & Live Equipment 16:00 - The Chocolate Chip Cookie Strategy 17:00 - Home-Field Advantage & Building Trust 20:09 - Why 95% of Customers Come In to Buy 23:00 - "That Won't Work in My Market" β€” Debunked 24:34 - Shop Tours, Pack-Outs & Efficiency Wins 27:00 - KPIs, One-on-Ones & Coaching Techs to Sell 30:03 - Future Goals: Profit, People & Buying Back Time 🎯 IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: βœ… Why Ryan switched from one-option, bottom-up quotes to five-option, top-down selling βœ… The "leave your mother in the truck" rule for recommending premium systems βœ… How to build a distraction-free showroom that does the selling for you (TVs, reviews, live equipment β€” and cookies) βœ… How ~95% of customers agree to come in for the in-person presentation βœ… Why the "that won't work in my small market" excuse is costing you money βœ… KPI tracking and one-on-ones that uncover the real reason techs aren't selling βœ… Pack-out systems that cut a furnace install from 8 hours to 3.5 "If you don't know you can have it, how would you ever buy it?" β€” Ryan St. Michel If you own or run a home service business and you've been competing on price instead of experience, this episode will change how you think about your sales process. 🎧 Welcome to The Freedom Blueprint Podcast β€” real conversations with home service business owners who are leading better, growing faster, and building businesses that work for them. πŸ‘‰ Subscribe so you don't miss the next episode πŸ‘‰ Share this with a contractor who needs to stop competing on price πŸ‘€ ABOUT THE GUEST Ryan St. Michel is the third-generation owner of Grove Mechanical, an HVAC company in Crookston, Minnesota. πŸ”— RESOURCES & LINKS * Grove Mechanical [https://grovemech.com/] * Connect with Ryan: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/grovemechanical/] πŸ“£ ENJOYED THIS EPISODE? Follow Freedom Blueprint Podcast and leave a rating & review β€” it helps more contractors find the show. Share this episode with an owner who needs to hear it. #HomeServiceBusiness #HVACBusiness #ContractorMarketing #FreedomBlueprint #JustinDeese #HVACSales #ServiceBusinessGrowth #SalesProcess #ContractorTips #BusinessGrowth #Showroom #TopDownSelling #SmallBusinessGrowth #TechnicianTraining #CustomerExperience Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

6 jul 202635 min
aflevering 161 | My #1 Rule in Business and it’s the most profitable rule. artwork

161 | My #1 Rule in Business and it’s the most profitable rule.

My number one rule in business isn't money, freedom, or anything the gurus are screaming at you to chase; and half of you are going to roll your eyes when I tell you what it is. It's fun. And in this episode I'm making the case that fun isn't soft or fluffy, it's the most powerful, most profitable, most underrated weapon you've got in your home service business. Energy is contagious, and your customers can feel the difference between a tech who's grinding through a miserable day and one who actually loves where he works. I'll hand you a three-letter game plan you can run starting tomorrow: Forget the widget, Uplift your people, Never kill the vibe. Do those three things consistently and you build a place people don't want to leave β€” easier recruiting, loyal customers, and a culture no comp plan or software can buy. Pick one letter and make one move this week. New episodes every week, hit follow so you don't miss what's coming next. 🎧 Freedom Blueprint Podcast β€” keep having fun, keep enjoying your people, and as always, keep crushing it. Justin reveals the one rule he's built every company around, and it isn't money, freedom, or anything the business gurus push. It's fun: building a place with so much good energy that your team and your customers want to be part of it. He makes the case that fun isn't soft or fluffy, it's the most powerful and underrated weapon in a home service business, because energy is contagious and customers can feel the difference between a tech who's grinding through a miserable day and one who loves where he works. Then he hands you a three-letter game plan you can run starting tomorrow: * F β€” Forget the Widget: The unit, the part, the service was never the point. It's just the vehicle. Do great work, but don't let the widget become the whole business or you suck the soul out of it and everything goes transactional. * U β€” Uplift Your People: Energy starts with the owner. You're the thermostat, not the thermometer β€” you set the temperature. Know your people's kids' names, catch them doing things right, celebrate wins, and have their backs. Most of it costs nothing, and when people feel poured into, they pour back. * N β€” Never Kill the Vibe: Once the energy is building, protect it. The fastest way to lose it is tolerating one toxic person β€” and nobody is too good to lose if they're killing the vibe. Sometimes the vibe-killer is you, so guard your own energy too and leave the bad day in the truck. The payoff: a place people don't want to leave, easier recruiting, loyal referring customers, and a badass culture that no comp plan or software can buy. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Fun is a profit strategy, not a perk. Good energy is contagious and shows up in how your team performs and how customers respond. 2. People buy from energy and stay loyal to it. A homeowner can feel the difference between a tech who's grinding and one who loves his job. 3. The widget is the vehicle, not the point. Quality matters, but a business built only around the unit and the numbers goes transactional β€” and transactional businesses are miserable to work in and easy to leave. 4. You're the thermostat, not the thermometer. As the owner, you set the temperature. Your people watch what you do far more than they listen to what you say. 5. Uplifting people is mostly free. A shout-out in the huddle, a ride-along to connect, remembering a new baby β€” small things compound into loyalty you can't buy with a raise. 6. Nobody is too good to keep if they're killing the vibe. Your A-players are watching what you tolerate; tolerate one bad attitude and you start losing the people you most want to keep. 7. Guard your own energy too. The vibe-killer is sometimes the owner. Leave the bad day in the truck and walk in ready to set the right temperature. 8. Pick one letter and make one move this week. A huddle shout-out, a ride-along, or the hard conversation with your vibe-killer β€” just one. TIMESTAMPS * 00:00 β€” Cold open: my #1 rule isn't what you think * 01:52 β€” Welcome back + the big reveal: "Have fun and enjoy the people you're doing it with" * 03:00 β€” Why fun is the most underrated weapon in your business * 04:01 β€” The three-letter game plan you can run tomorrow * 04:19 β€” Energy is contagious: the two-shop comparison * 07:04 β€” Customers feel the energy too β€” people buy from it and stay loyal to it * 08:05 β€” F β€” Forget the Widget: the widget was never the point * 09:50 β€” U β€” Uplift Your People: you're the thermostat, not the thermometer * 12:35 β€” Why uplifting people costs almost nothing and compounds * 12:59 β€” N β€” Never Kill the Vibe: protect the energy, deal with the toxic person * 14:21 β€” Your A-players watch what you tolerate * 14:21 β€” Sometimes the vibe-killer is you: guard your own energy * 15:18 β€” Put it together: a place people don't want to leave * 16:30 β€” This week's challenge: pick one letter, make one move * 17:18 β€” Close: fun builds the energy, energy builds the culture Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

29 jun 202610 min
aflevering 160 | The Two Words Quietly Driving Your A-Players Out the Door artwork

160 | The Two Words Quietly Driving Your A-Players Out the Door

We've all been Marcus's boss. A great employee takes the time to think about the business, writes up an idea, and hands it to you β€” and nine days later it's still sitting in your inbox. So you give him the line: "I got too busy." He nods, says no worries, and walks to his truck. And you tell yourself it's fine. You were busy. It's been a crazy week. Here's the blunt truth Justin lays out in this episode: that's a lie. Not a malicious one, but a lie all the same β€” and the worst part is your best people know it's a lie too. They just won't say it to your face. Because here's the thing. When a $40,000 install went sideways, you found time. When your biggest referral partner wanted lunch, you found time. When a truck broke down and a job was on the line, you found time. You are a master at finding time for the things you decide are important. "Too busy" was never about the clock. It's the costume we put on to dodge the harder, less comfortable thing without anybody getting upset with us. And it's costing you more than you think. Every "too busy" is a tiny deposit in an account in your employee's head labeled "Does this place actually care about me?" Your C players don't bring you ideas, so they never get told no. But your A players are testing you β€” and every time they stick their neck out and get "too busy" back, you're teaching your best people to go quiet, and eventually to go somewhere else. This episode is the wake-up call, and it comes with the fix. What you'll hear in this episode: * The Marcus-in-the-parking-lot moment every owner has lived β€” and what your tech actually hears when you say "I got too busy" * Justin's own gym confession, and why "too busy" is almost never about time * How small, repeated "I'll get to it" moments quietly push your best people out the door * Why busy became a badge of honor β€” and the brutal difference between busy and effective * The three reasons owners default to "too busy," including the deep one nobody wants to admit * The 5 moves to kill the habit for good * Why closing the loop is the gym all over again: less time, better results KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. You're never too busy β€” you just decided something else matters more. Be honest about that and you take your power back. 2. "Too busy" is a costume, not a reason. It's how we dodge the harder, less comfortable thing without anybody pushing back on us. 3. Your team doesn't hear "I'm slammed." They hear "you don't matter." When you say too busy, the signal that lands is: you and your idea weren't important enough to make my list. 4. Your A-players are the ones who notice. C players don't bring ideas, so they never get told no. Your best people are testing you β€” and "too busy" teaches them to go quiet, then to go elsewhere. 5. Busy and effective are not the same thing. A hamster on a wheel is extremely busy and getting nowhere. Activity is not achievement; motion is not progress. 6. You're the author of your calendar, not the victim of it. Nobody puts things there but you. Own that, and there's nobody left to blame β€” which is exactly the point. 7. You don't have to solve it in 24 hours. You have to acknowledge it in 24 hours. The silence is what kills trust, not the wait. 8. You earn loyalty 15 seconds at a time. Closing the loop is the smaller, harder thing that produces the bigger result β€” every single time. THE 5 MOVES TO KILL "TOO BUSY" 1. Ban the phrase. "I got too busy" is dead in your vocabulary. Replace it with the truth: "I didn't make that a priority this week, and that's on me." It's so uncomfortable you'll start doing the thing just to avoid saying it. 2. Audit your calendar. Pull up last week. Look at where the hours actually went, not where you think they went. If your people are your number one asset but there's zero time blocked for them, your calendar just called your bluff. 3. Schedule the people first. Stop squeezing your team into the cracks left over after fires and customers β€” there are no cracks. Block the one-to-ones and development time first, and protect it like a $50K customer appointment. 4. If it's truly not a priority, say so. "Marcus, I read it. Solid idea β€” it's not where we're focused this quarter, but here's what I want to do with it." That closes the loop and treats him like he matters, even when the answer is not right now. 5. Close every loop within 24 hours. "Got it. I'll have an answer for you by Thursday." That's it. A closed loop says you matter. An open loop says too busy. MEMORABLE QUOTES "You're never too busy. You just decide something else matters more." "Too busy is really just the costume that we use without anybody getting upset with us." "People don't quit jobs. They quit feeling like they don't matter." "Busy and effective are not the same thing. They're not even third cousins." "You're not a victim of your calendar. You're the author of your calendar." "The silence is what kills trust, not the wait." "You earn it 15 seconds at a time." SHOW NOTES & TIMESTAMPS * (00:00) Picture this: Marcus catches you in the parking lot about the idea he sent nine days ago * (00:40) "I got too busy" β€” the line every one of us uses * (01:15) The blunt truth: it's a lie, and Marcus knows it too * (01:45) The whole episode in one sentence: you're never too busy * (02:20) Proof β€” the $40K install, the referral partner lunch, the broken-down truck. You always find time for what matters * (03:15) Justin's gym confession vs. the beer with a buddy * (04:30) "Too busy" is a costume for dodging the harder thing * (05:30) Back to Marcus β€” what he actually heard * (06:30) The hidden account in your employee's head: "Does this place care about me?" * (07:15) A-players vs. C-players, and why your best people go quiet then leave * (08:30) Why we do it β€” Reason #1: too busy feels productive * (09:15) Reason #2: busy as a badge of honor (and the busy β‰  effective trap) * (10:30) Reason #3: too busy lets you off the hook β€” author vs. victim of your calendar * (11:45) The fix β€” Move 1: ban the phrase * (12:30) Move 2: audit your calendar * (13:15) Move 3: schedule the people first * (14:00) Move 4: if it's not a priority, say so honestly * (14:45) Move 5: close every loop within 24 hours * (15:30) Why this wins twice β€” in the business and with the team * (16:30) Your challenge for the week: catch it, freeze, tell the truth * (17:15) One person is waiting on something from you. Go close that loop today CALL TO ACTION 1. Go close a loop today. Think of one person on your team who's waiting on something from you. You already know who it is. Don't wait until tomorrow. 2. Share it with another owner who needs to hear it β€” you've probably already got somebody in mind. 3. Leave a five-star review so other owners can find the show. The owners who win don't have more time than you. They just stop lying about how they spend it. Keep prioritizing what matters β€” and as always, keep crushing it. Mentioned in this episode: HomeServiceHoorah.com/ Get your tickets before they SELLOUT!

22 jun 202613 min