Honestly, We're Learning
In this episode, Leslie Vickrey and Lesly Cardec sit down with Ursula Williams, President of Staffing Industry Analysts (SIA), to explore what it means to step into big corporate moments with strategic speed and undeniable authenticity. Ursula shares: * How her upbringing by immigrant entrepreneurs gave her the foundation to be bold, * Why getting comfortable with being uncomfortable is a prerequisite for leadership breakthroughs * The critical moment an unexpected ally changed her career trajectory. Together, they also tackle the staffing industry’s historical blind spot—underinvesting in marketing—and explain why treating marketing as the technology-driven growth engine it is can yield a massive 10% growth advantage. Connect with Ursula Williams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ursula-williams-b79a54/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ursula-williams-b79a54/] Connect with Leslie Vickrey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lvickrey/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lvickrey/] Connect with Lesly Cardec: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslycardec/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslycardec/] Listen to Ursula’s episode of TheEdge: https://meetclearedge.com/podcast/ursula-williams-evp-of-staffing-industry-analysts-says-if-you-can-see-it-you-can-be-it/ [https://meetclearedge.com/podcast/ursula-williams-evp-of-staffing-industry-analysts-says-if-you-can-see-it-you-can-be-it/] Explore the full episode details and key takeaways: https://meetclearedge.com/podcast/comfortable-being-uncomfortable/ [https://meetclearedge.com/podcast/comfortable-being-uncomfortable/] Episode Chapters 00:10 - Believing in Your Own Story First 5:44 - Ditching the Traditional Career Script 8:13 - Meet Ursula Williams 10:42 - Rapid Fire: Turbo Speed, AI Notes, and Strict Coffee Rules 15:09 - Built to Be Bold 17:55 - The Unexpected Ally 22:18 - What Keeps the President of SIA Up at Night? 26:54 - The Architecture of a High-Achieving Life 33:29 - The Staffing Industry’s Blind Spot: Marketing as a Growth Engine 37:40 - Take Three: Small Acts of Allyship, Huge Career Trajectories About Honestly, We’re Learning Join ClearEdge’s CEO and founder, Leslie Vickrey, and CMO and SVP of Recruiting, Lesly Cardec, for a raw look at the career turning points that make or break a person. Together, they speak with guests who have handled it all—from successes to roadblocks to pivots—for a candid, witty, never-judgmental exploration of their journey. Focus not just on their wins, but the messy middle—failures, pivots, and lessons learned. As leaders of a marketing agency that also helps place marketers in roles where they thrive, Leslie and Lesly bring a unique perspective to every conversation—one grounded in both building great brands and great careers. Between guest episodes, they dive into what’s happening in marketing and talent today: the trends reshaping how brands connect, the shifts redefining hiring, and what makes truly impactful marketing happen. The banter is warm. The coffee is hot. And there’s no need to pretend you have it all figured out because, honestly, we’re all still learning. Learn more about ClearEdge: https://meetclearedge.com/ [https://meetclearedge.com/]
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