How To Handshake: The OT Networking Series

EP. 5 - Skills to Pay the Bills

57 min · 2 jun 2026
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Is a career in OT still worth it? Which certifications are actually worth chasing, and which ones are mostly marketing? What's the real story behind the skilled labor shortage? And with all the AI noise out there, will these jobs even be here in five years? In Episode 5 of How to Handshake, Ryan LaFlamme and Ping Yao are joined by Jon Spooner and Mike Conway, co-founders of Stacks and Joules [https://www.stacksandjoules.org] — the NYC-based nonprofit running a 14-week BAS field-technician bootcamp with a 92% post-graduation placement rate. We cover what an OT job actually looks like on a Monday morning, why Stacks and Joules deliberately won't scale faster, the fastest path into the industry today (IT skills with a dash of mechanical context), where AI is actually chewing up jobs in the built environment, and the one piece of advice everyone considering the jump should hear: learn PoE, watch out for early-career poaching, and don't take this job if you don't like working with people. Stacks and Joules: https://www.stacksandjoules.org/ [https://www.stacksandjoules.org/] Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1889945777 [https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1889945777] Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Jg2yumYXCV2dRl1sIuPHO [https://open.spotify.com/show/6Jg2yumYXCV2dRl1sIuPHO] Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/show/1002831921 [https://www.deezer.com/us/show/1002831921] Read the full show notes and transcript: https://www.optigo.net/how-to-handshake-ep-5/ [https://www.optigo.net/how-to-handshake-ep-5/] How to Handshake is Optigo Networks' podcast series on OT networking, building automation, and the conversations that actually move the industry forward. New episodes every two weeks.

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EP. 5 - Skills to Pay the Bills

Is a career in OT still worth it? Which certifications are actually worth chasing, and which ones are mostly marketing? What's the real story behind the skilled labor shortage? And with all the AI noise out there, will these jobs even be here in five years? In Episode 5 of How to Handshake, Ryan LaFlamme and Ping Yao are joined by Jon Spooner and Mike Conway, co-founders of Stacks and Joules [https://www.stacksandjoules.org] — the NYC-based nonprofit running a 14-week BAS field-technician bootcamp with a 92% post-graduation placement rate. We cover what an OT job actually looks like on a Monday morning, why Stacks and Joules deliberately won't scale faster, the fastest path into the industry today (IT skills with a dash of mechanical context), where AI is actually chewing up jobs in the built environment, and the one piece of advice everyone considering the jump should hear: learn PoE, watch out for early-career poaching, and don't take this job if you don't like working with people. Stacks and Joules: https://www.stacksandjoules.org/ [https://www.stacksandjoules.org/] Subscribe to the podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1889945777 [https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1889945777] Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Jg2yumYXCV2dRl1sIuPHO [https://open.spotify.com/show/6Jg2yumYXCV2dRl1sIuPHO] Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/show/1002831921 [https://www.deezer.com/us/show/1002831921] Read the full show notes and transcript: https://www.optigo.net/how-to-handshake-ep-5/ [https://www.optigo.net/how-to-handshake-ep-5/] How to Handshake is Optigo Networks' podcast series on OT networking, building automation, and the conversations that actually move the industry forward. New episodes every two weeks.

2 jun 202657 min