The Fish Are Telling Us Something. Jay Hesse on Snake River Salmon's Last Stand

30 Years on the Idaho Outdoors Beat with Eric Barker

Erik Weiseth and Jack Hurty run through a packed news roundup before sitting down with Eric Barker, the longtime outdoors and environmental reporter for the Lewiston Tribune. News roundup highlights: * ESA "harm" definition change: US Fish & Wildlife and NOAA Fisheries finalized removing habitat modification from the definition of "harm" under Section 9. Erik and Jack agree the day-to-day impact on outfitter permitting is likely limited, since Section 7 consultation remains unchanged — this mostly affects incidental take liability, and may matter more for logging/ranching than guiding. * Grizzly management shift: Interior Secretary Burgum, USFWS, and the governors of MT, WY, and ID announced a proposal to hand more day-to-day grizzly management authority to states via a 4(d) rule change (bears stay listed as threatened). Public comment opens soon; IOGA plans to submit comments and wants field input from outfitters working in bear country. No hunting season is on the table. * Rep. Fulcher's public lands survey: Fulcher, who previously voted for a public land sell-off amendment, has softened his stance and is now soliciting Idahoan input via a detailed survey. Erik and Jack strongly encourage members to take it, drawing a parallel to the massive public response that helped kill the Mike Lee sell-off provision last year. * Forest Service directive/handbook overhaul: A proposed rule would make the Forest Service Handbook essentially voluntary while keeping the Manual in place. This could increase flexibility with good administrators but removes accountability — including for things like non-competitive permit renewals, which may only be codified at the Handbook level. IOGA and America Outdoors are auditing what's at risk. * New IOGLB appointee: Derek Atterbury nominated to replace Brad Compton on the Idaho Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board, bringing 8 years of Fish & Game Commission experience. * New DOT compliance guide: IOGA published a plain-language guide to DOT regulations for outfitting vehicles/trailers. * Upper Lochsa land consolidation ("Project Gen 3"): A creative non-exchange deal would move ~27,000 acres from Western Pacific Timber into Forest Service ownership via The Conservation Fund, with an endowment offsetting county tax losses. Broad local support; needs Senate funding support ($54M in the 2027 LWCF budget). * Salmon-Challis RAC recruitment: Applications due Aug 16 for the Central Idaho Resource Advisory Committee, which allocates ~$740K in Secure Rural Schools funding. * Fun one: Idaho Fish & Game wants artist submissions for next year's hard license artwork — Erik's rooting for a "Geronimo the parachuting beaver" design. * Membership renewals are open for the new cycle, with shoutouts to Dollars for Outdoors and Dollars for Salmon donors. Interview — Eric Barker (Lewiston Tribune): Barker reflects on nearly 30 years covering Idaho's outdoors and environment beat. Topics include how the Snake River dams/salmon debate has evolved (from agency recommendation to Congress to the courts), the massive public backlash that helped stop the Mike Lee land sell-off, shrinking federal agency staffing capacity post-DOGE cuts and its effect on trail maintenance and wildfire response, the ongoing Forest Service reorganization, the tension between fire suppression and prescribed burning, growing outdoor recreation pressure and funding gaps (hunters/anglers pay via tags/licenses, but hikers and bikers largely don't), and the growing difficulty of reporting on federal agencies that have become more guarded since DOGE. He closes with a tour through his favorite Idaho waters and asks listeners to subscribe to local news and send him tips.

The Outfitter Brief: Offense and Defense: Navigating Federal Policy with Jessica Turner

This week we are sharing the most recent episode of, The Outfitter Brief, the AO/IOGA shared podcast. If you follow it you should follow that podcast. On this one, Erik Weiseth (IOGA) and Aaron Lieberman (America Outdoors Association) cover the major policy issues facing outfitters and guides, then sit down with Jessica Turner, President of the Outdoor Recreation Roundtable, for a wide-ranging conversation on federal recreation policy, coalition strategy, and an emerging push to connect outdoor recreation with the American healthcare system. Aaron opens with an update on AO's new endorsed insurance program through CBiz Adventure Sports, offering AO members up to 10% off core coverage premiums — a direct response to survey data showing over 90% of outfitters saw premiums rise or coverage drop in the past year. From there, the conversation moves to the Outfitter and Guide Relief (ORG) Act, AO's effort to carve outfitters and guides out of FLSA overtime requirements that have forced operators to cut guide hours and jack up prices. A Senate companion bill from Sen. Steve Daines is imminent, and guide testimonials from affected workers are urgently needed. The two then break down the roadless rule situation — three parallel tracks (House legislation, Senate amendment to the Wildfire Prevention Act via Sen. Mike Lee, and USDA administrative repeal) — and what outfitters should actually be doing right now. They close the policy roundup with an Arizona liability waiver win: legislation signed by Governor Hobbs that clarifies the enforceability of waivers and inherent risk doctrine, similar to what Idaho passed previously. The interview with Jess Turner is the centerpiece. She walks through the just-completed Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee markup of the America the Beautiful Act — a $10 billion Legacy Restoration Fund reauthorization that passed without a single nay vote in one of the most divided committees in Congress. She explains what that money actually does (deferred maintenance on trails, boat launches, campgrounds, visitor infrastructure), how the House version includes a 15% recreation/sportsman carve-out that may not survive the conference, and what the foreign visitor fee issue means for outfitters taking international clients. Timeline: potentially signed before July 4th. The back half of the interview pivots to ORR's America's Outdoor Era health initiative — the argument that outdoor recreation is an upstream, preventative healthcare solution, and the emerging policy and private-sector pathways (HSA/FSA reform, employer benefits programs, hospital partnerships, medical provider training) to formalize that connection. Jess also walks through how ORR maintains its massive, diverse coalition by staying out of place-based conflicts and focusing on process, business stability, and the issues where everyone agrees. The episode closes with news that Iowa became the 25th state to establish an Office of Outdoor Recreation, and a reminder to mark calendars for the IOGA Annual Meeting (December 1–3, Tamarack Resort) and the America Outdoors Conference and Expo (December 8–11, Oklahoma City).

The Dirt Portfolio: Inside the Governor's Office with Kristin Sleeper

In this episode, Erik and Jack cover a packed week of news before sitting down with Kristin Sleeper, Governor Little's new Policy Director. On the news front: Erik recaps a productive National Trails Day outing, Jack reports on Big Water Blowout in Riggins; the guys dig into a new legislative working group on state lands management led by Representative Raybold; and they break down the implications of President Trump's executive order rescinding the Nixon- and Carter-era travel management executive orders — a move they describe as flying under the radar but potentially significant over the long term. They also cover Senator Mike Lee's last-minute amendment to rescind the 2001 Roadless Rule (noting Idaho's own roadless rule insulates the state directly), the new Headwaters Economics report on Snake River dam removal economics from Idaho Rivers United, and the Public Lands Integrity Act — legislation that would close the budget reconciliation loophole that could be used to sell public lands without 60 Senate votes. The main interview with Kristin Sleeper covers her winding path from Detroit to DC to Montana to the Trump administration and finally to Governor Little's office, her vision for a coordinated statewide recreation strategy, Idaho's opportunity to expand Good Neighbor Authority and Shared Stewardship into recreation trail maintenance, the Make Forests Healthy Again executive order, wildfire preparedness for what could be a difficult fire season, and the thorny challenge of creating a sustainable funding mechanism for non-motorized trail maintenance.

The Fish Are Telling Us Something. Jay Hesse on Snake River Salmon's Last Stand

Erik and Jack cover a busy week — Erik returns from the IPW convention in Florida where he spent three days pitching Idaho's outdoor recreation opportunities (jet boat rides, rafting, backcountry horse trips, hunting) to international tour operators and travel agents. They hit the week's policy news: Steve Pierce's official BLM confirmation, $12M in USDA CWD funding, and a sobering stat that the Forest Service maintained 22% fewer trail miles in 2025 than the year prior. Jack does a deep dive on the FY27 Interior/Environment appropriations bill out of Congressman Simpson's subcommittee — covering Forest Service budget levels, PILT funding, hunting/fishing access protections, and provisions on grizzly bears, wolves, and wolverines. Then Jay Hesse, Director of Biological Services for the Nez Perce Tribe, joins for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of Snake River salmon and steelhead — explaining quasi-extinction thresholds, the alarming status of Middle Fork Chinook populations, and the tribe's aggressive conservation measures including cryopreservation, off-site living gene banks, overwinter survival pilots, and marine-derived nutrient enhancement using shad. Jay closes with a public health warning: methylmercury levels in lower Salmon River smallmouth bass are among the highest in the state.

Clearing the Way: Chainsaws, the Frank, and the Fight for Wilderness Access

Erik and Jack kick off with river season updates before diving into policy news: the Public Lands Integrity Act, Jim Risch's support for the America the Beautiful Act's Legacy Restoration Fund reauthorization, the BLM's rescission of the Public Lands Rule, and Steve Pierce's impending BLM director confirmation. The main event is a deep-dive interview on a landmark development: the Salmon-Challis National Forest's authorization — signed the morning of recording — allowing limited gas chainsaw use by permitted outfitters and contractors to clear catastrophically downed timber on specific Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness trails. Erik walks through the legal foundation (the 1964 Wilderness Act's MRA process, the 1978 Endangered American Wilderness Act's House Report, and the trail-clearing mandate in the 1980 Central Idaho Wilderness Act), the scale of the problem (500+ trail miles, up to 700 downed trees per mile), and addresses critics who question the commercial motivation or fear broader precedent. He closes with a passionate case that access is the wilderness's greatest long-term protection.