Landline with Mary Mahoney
This episode, I chat with Fran Hoepfner — critic, Vulture writer, and author of The Field Guide to Nepo Babies — to trace nepotism from the medieval Catholic Church all the way to Bronny James and Kai Trump. They get into who's doing it right (Ben Platt's Rachel Zegler solidarity era, Romy Mars booking a helicopter and owning it on TikTok), who's doing it wrong (Jack Schlossberg, reheating his family's nachos), and whether Jesus Christ is technically a nepo baby. Spoiler: it depends on your theology (but it’s also making me want to rewatch Jesus Christ Superstar). Become a Patreon member → https://www.patreon.com/cw/MaryMahoney [https://www.patreon.com/cw/MaryMahoney] TIMESTAMPS * (00:00) Cold open / Fran's cat Bandit joins the show * (03:10) The meritocracy myth and why nepo babies make us angry * (08:08) Ben Platt's PR redemption arc * (12:29) How nepotism started in the Catholic Church (hi, Borgias) * (15:10) Was Jesus a nepo baby? * (20:00) Emeril Lagasse IV and the "no seriously he earned it" profile * (28:21) Bronny James and the tragedy of an impossible legacy * (32:06) Chet Hanks: performance art or just vibes? * (35:24) Jack Schlossberg, least favorite nepo baby, explained * (43:38) Fran's favorites: Laura Dern, Jason Schwartzmann, the Gummers * (48:18) Kai Trump's "just a regular girly" era and Tiffany Trump's strange tragedy * (53:23) The takeaway: don't apologize, don't be boring, and if you have money, do something good TRANSCRIPT Full episode transcript here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ghO5c8muWn77GzbPfNGP84l06ixrr8RNt4URRQDdn8/edit?usp=sharing [https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ghO5c8muWn77GzbPfNGP84l06ixrr8RNt4URRQDdn8/edit?usp=sharing] Connect with Mary: * Website: www.marymmahoney.com [http://www.marymmahoney.com] * Instagram: @mimimahoney [https://www.instagram.com/mimimahoney/?hl=en] * Email: MaryMargaret.Mahoney@gmail.com [MaryMargaret.Mahoney@gmail.com] Connect with Fran: * Read Fran’s Book! [https://bookshop.org/a/102042/9781523530465] The Field Guide to Nepo Babies (https://bookshop.org/a/102042/9781523530465 [https://bookshop.org/a/102042/9781523530465] ) * Subscribe to Fran Magazine: https://franmagazine.substack.com/ [https://franmagazine.substack.com/] * Website: https://www.franhoepfner.fyi/ [https://www.franhoepfner.fyi/] * Instagram: @franhoepfner [https://www.instagram.com/franhoepfner/?hl=en#] Love the show? Please leave a rating and review! It helps other listeners find Landline. Sponsor Message: Landline is sponsored by Libro.Fm [http://libro.fm]. Listen to your favorite books and support your local bookstores! (Link: https://tidd.ly/40tPrKb [https://tidd.ly/40tPrKb] ) ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.
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