Facts Don't Change Minds with Hamid Ganadhan

Facts Don't Change Minds with Hamid Ganadhan

What if the reason people don't trust healthcare isn't the science- it's the communication? Rosa Hart sits down with Hamid Ghanadan, behavioral strategist, researcher, and author of Not Buying It, to explore why science and healthcare have a usability problem - and what communicators, clinicians, and companies can do about it. From the neuroscience of decision-making to the Space Shuttle Challenger to vaccine hesitancy and children's mental health, Hamid and Rosa cover what it really takes to communicate in a way that moves people. Ethically, effectively, and humanly. ⏱ Episode Chapters 00:00 – Introduction & Guest Welcome 00:22 – Hamid's Background: From Bench to Behavioral Strategy 01:27 – Healthcare & Science Have a Usability Problem 02:26 – Market Research, Strategy & the Linus Group 03:00 – Patterns of Top Science Communicators 03:13 – The Role-Play Problem: Titles vs. Humans 04:09 – Priming: Why "I'm Just Looking" Is Never True 04:44 – Why Scientific Jargon Backfires at Conferences 05:22 – Emotions in Decision-Making: It's Biology, Not Strategy 05:29 – The Neuroscience: Logic Alone Cannot Drive Action 06:04 – The Frontal Cortex vs. the Amygdala 06:29 – Communication That Moves People to Act 06:52 – Storytelling: A Technology Co-Evolved With the Human Brain 07:13 – When Storytelling at a Conference Got a Doctor Shut Down 07:39 – Healthy Skepticism as a Clinician's Superpower 08:10 – Lead With Curiosity, Not Data 08:54 – The Right Communication Sequence: Curiosity → Facts 09:35 – Putting Data Too Early Spikes Skepticism 09:58 – Does Scientist-to-Scientist Selling Work? 11:20 – Facts Alone Never Close a Sale 11:46 – Persuasion vs. Manipulation: Drawing the Line 11:56 – How Social Media Algorithms Exploit Decision-Making 12:50 – Ethical Influence: The School Lunch Experiment 13:27 – When Good Communication Is a Public Service 14:14 – Space Shuttle Challenger: A Catastrophic Communication Failure 15:39 – Having the Right Data Is Not Enough 16:00 – Hamid's Personal Story: Not Understanding the Science He Studied 16:42 – Open Access Is Only the First Rung 17:45 – Stop Thinking About How to Teach; Think About How People Learn 18:39 – Start With Their Question, Not Yours 19:19 – Why Asking More Questions Predicts Better Outcomes 20:29 – Hamid's Two Questions for Rosa 21:34 – What Drives Rosa to Keep Podcasting 22:18 – Curiosity, Ideas & Grandparents' Theological Conversations 23:13 – Rosa's Week: Nurse Con at Sea & Family Before the Trip 24:55 – Online Highlight Reels Are Not Real Time 25:52 – Hamid: Posting for Content, Not Attention 26:00 – How Long It Took to Write the Book (A Hard Question to Answer) 26:47 – Building a Book from Years of Small Practiced Moments 27:41 – Selling Health Literacy to the Public 28:04 – Rosa's Book: Speak Up Start Now & the Nurse as Translator 29:10 – When a Patient Hears a Diagnosis: The Voice Fades Out 30:12 – Asking "What's On Your Mind Right Now?" in Clinical Settings 30:53 – A Doctor Who Relearned Storytelling 31:14 – Francis Collins on the NIH's Biggest Regret 32:28 – Transparency in Public Health Messaging 33:29 – The Billion-Dollar Question 33:45 – Mental Health: The Pandemic We Don't Treat Like One 34:35 – Family-Based Therapy & Back-to-Basics for Children 35:18 – Children Separated from Nature 36:01 – Psychedelics, Family Healing & What Comes First 36:26 – Phones Away: The Power of One-on-One Time 37:05 – A Mother's Meditation Changed Her Daughter's Life 37:54 – Not Buying It: The Book 38:22 – Find Hamid: LinkedIn & thelinusgroup.com 38:50 – Closing & Follow Nurse Rosa Speaks 📚 Resources Mentioned Not Buying It: The Art of Selling to Scientists, Doctors, and Other Professional Skeptics [https://a.co/d/0gzlNp9f]— Hamid Ghanadan Speak Up Start Now [https://speakupbook.lovable.app/] — Rosa Hart The Linus Group: thelinusgroup.com [https://thelinusgroup.com/] Connect with Hamid on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hghanadan/] Follow Rosa: @NurseRosaSpeaks [https://linktr.ee/nurserosaspeaks?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=65be35f3-5908-4f3a-ad60-1f51c6ed79b5] 🎙️ About the ShowNurse Rosa's Insights explores healthcare from every angle, interviewing the stakeholders, thinkers, and changemakers shaping the future of health. Subscribe wherever you listen, and leave a review if this episode made you think differently.

Supporting Unpaid Caregivers aka "Archangels" ft. Alexandra Drane

What if 40% of the people sitting in your waiting room, working on your team, or enrolled in your health plan were quietly carrying an invisible weight, and had no idea there was a name for what they were doing? Alexandra Drane has spent years hunting for those people. As co-founder and CEO of ARCHANGELS, a public benefit corporation, she's on a mission to find unpaid caregivers who don't identify as caregivers, and connect them to the employer benefits, health plan resources, and community supports already waiting for them. The barrier isn't access. It's recognition. In this conversation, Rosa and Alexandra dig into the science and the soul behind Archangels, including the intensity score (clear, yellow, red) that creates the "aha" moment caregivers didn't know they needed, the surprising data trails that reveal caregiving hiding inside every workforce, and what a stint as a Walmart cashier taught Alexandra about the real weight people carry through their days. They also go deep on stroke caregiving specifically, including the abrupt, total life shift that caregivers of stroke survivors experience, often with no warning and no roadmap. If you work in neurology, if you know a stroke caregiver, or if you are one, this conversation was made for you. What You'll Hear: - Why so many caregivers don't know they're caregivers, and what happens when they finally see themselves clearly - The Archangels intensity score and how a simple red/yellow/clear framework creates connection points instead of stigma - How Alexandra's prior company, Eliza, revealed that "life stress" is the biggest driver of health outcomes, and how that realization changed everything - A deeply personal story about glioblastoma, end-of-life care, and the lessons that shaped Archangels from the inside out - What working as a Walmart cashier revealed about the caregiving burden hiding in plain sight across the American workforce - The data employers and policymakers are now using to actually invest in caregiver support - What stroke does to a caregiver's daily reality, including the medication maze, the financial friction, and the emotional overnight shift - The free Care Badge that translates caregiving into professional skills and resume languageHow to connect with Archangels at archangels.work Chapters:01:46 What Archangels Does05:35 Finding Hidden Caregivers08:18 Intensity, Not Burden09:54 Why Alexandra Cares11:11 Eliza and Life Stress Data13:04 Glioblastoma and Hospice Lessons15:54 Walmart Origins19:28 Data to Drive Support23:54 Stroke Caregiving Reality28:30 Stroke Changes Everything29:53 Rethinking Caregiver Reality31:29 Banks and Caregiving Friction35:01 The Medication Maze and Employers37:34 Planning for the Care Crunch42:08 The Red Phone Support System42:59 The Billion-Dollar Care Plan47:36 Care Badge and Career Skills50:37 Where to Connect and Wrap Connect with Alexandra Drane and Archangels: Website: archangels.work [https://www.archangels.work/] Care Badge: archangels.work/care-badge [https://www.archangels.work/caregiver-badges] Connect with Rosa:Website: nurserosaspeaks.com Instagram: @NurseRosaSpeaks [https://www.instagram.com/nurserosaspeaks/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-hart-scrn/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-hart-scrn/] Nurse Rosa's INsights is produced by Rosa Hart Media Consulting, LLC.

How to Fix your Bodyclock with Royan Kamyar, MD, CEO of OWaves

What if the key to better mental health wasn't a new medication or therapy technique, but something already hardwired inside you? In this episode of Nurse Rosa's INsights, I sit down with Dr. Royan Kamyar, physician, MBA, and founder and CEO of Owaves [www.owaves.com], a circadian wellness app used by over one million people worldwide. Dr. Kamyar shares the raw personal story behind why he built it, including his own rock-bottom moment after medical training, and the science that changed everything for him. If you've ever felt like you're running on empty no matter how hard you try, this one is for you. IN THIS EPISODE: 0:48 – AI Med Shark Tank: Owaves wins 3rd place 1:30 – What is Owaves? Digitizing lifestyle medicine & circadian biology 2:15 – Royan's background: MD + MBA, from medicine to entrepreneurship 3:32 – Growing up entrepreneurial in a family of physicians 4:37 – The intern year revelation: ignoring prevention in medicine 5:25 – The "24-hour formula" insight that sparked Owaves 5:46 – Discovering UC San Diego's Circadian Biology Center 6:04 – Wearable integrations: Oura, Apple Watch, WHOOP 7:03 – Why Owaves is a planner, not just an activity tracker 8:08 – The forward-looking approach to lifestyle change 8:35 – Dean Ornish's lifestyle medicine pillars & the calendar as the core tool 9:40 – Being honest with yourself: planning vs. reality 10:27 – Hours & minutes as a more accessible health metric than lab values 12:18 – Gen Z & health culture: why they're the ideal audience 13:03 – Gen Z, mocktails, and the shift away from alcohol 14:04 – Owaves' traction with college students: ADHD, time blindness, and mental health 14:57 – The billion-dollar question 15:24 – A nationwide lifestyle medicine course for college students 16:13 – Yale's Happiness Course & the student wellness movement 17:23 – N=1: students as citizen scientists of their own health 18:24 – YouTube vs. university: where health education actually lands 19:25 – The mental health crisis on campus & lifestyle psychiatry as prevention 20:40 – Chronotherapy, peer support, and the Blue Zone campus effect 22:03 – Rosa's APSU 1000: why every college already has the format 22:50 – UW's "quantified self" course: students analyzing their own wearables data 24:05 – Obesity, pre-diabetes, and why we must get in front of it early 25:27 – Proving the endpoints so students want the course (no mandate needed) 26:23 – Chronotype & GPA: aligning your schedule with your biology = 0.4 GPA boost 27:24 – Relationships as a lifestyle pillar: why eye contact matters 28:05 – Planning date nights: Jordan Peterson's 90-minute life management session 28:52 – Owaves helps you see if your time matches your stated values 29:55 – Bridging the delta: what you planned vs. what actually happened 30:56 – Where to find Owaves: owaves.com / bodyclock.ai / "My Body Clock" in the App Store 31:33 – How to connect with Royan: royan@owaves.com [royan@owaves.com] / LinkedIn 31:42 – Closing & Rosa's book: Speak Up, Start Now at nurserosaspeaks.shop CONNECT WITH DR. ROYAN KAMYAR: Email: royan@owaves.com [royan@owaves.com] LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/royankamyar [linkedin.com/in/royankamyar] RESOURCES MENTIONED: Owaves [www.owaves.com] CONNECT WITH NURSE ROSA: Website: nurserosaspeaks.com [www.nurserosaspeaks.com] Book: Speak Up, Start Now available at on Amazon Kindle and Audible

When Nurses Build in Health Tech ft. Susan Grant, Symplr

What happens when a critical care nurse becomes the executive building the tools she once struggled with? Susan Grant, DNP and Chief Clinical Officer at Symplr, has lived both sides. She has navigated 3 a.m. staffing crises, chased credentialing deadlines, and wondered if the systems she used were built with nurses in mind at all. Now she builds those systems, and she is doing it differently. In this episode, Rosa Hart sits down with Susan to unpack how AI-driven staffing tools, smarter scheduling, and nurse-led technology decisions can reduce burnout and bring predictability back to the bedside. If you have ever felt like the tools you use every day were designed without you in the room, this one is for you. In this episode: * From critical care nurse to C-suite: Susan's leadership journey * What Symplr does and why frontline nurses should know * AI and predictive staffing: what nurses need to understand * How to advocate for a seat at the tech decision table * Credentialing, compliance, and cutting administrative burden Burnout as a systems design problem. When technology works the way nurses actually work, the burden lifts. Susan and Rosa challenge the idea that burnout is only a staffing issue. About Susan Grant Susan Grant [https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-grant-dnp-rn-nea-bc-faan-3361214/], DNP, is the Chief Clinical Officer at Symplr, a healthcare operations software company specializing in workforce management, credentialing, compliance, and scheduling. She brings decades of clinical and executive experience to the mission of building technology that works for the people delivering care. About Nurse Rosa's INsights Nurse Rosa's INsights is a nurse-led healthcare leadership and innovation podcast hosted by Rosa Hart [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-hart-scrn/], BSN, RN, SCRN. Each episode features evidence-based insights, expert interviews, and actionable strategies for nurses, healthcare professionals, system leaders, and advocates. Topics covered include AI in nursing and health tech, clinical innovation, workforce sustainability, nursing leadership, healthcare policy, and the future of patient care. Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms.

Nurses building a Business of Hope ft. Matt Harless & Ashley Chancellor on Nurse Rosa's INsights

What happens when burnout breaks you open, and you decide to build something from the wreckage? In this episode, Rosa sits down with Ashley Chancellor and Matthew Harless, co-founders of The Business of Hope, to explore why burnout in healthcare goes far deeper than exhaustion, and what hope, as a functional tool, can actually do for clinicians on the front lines. Ashley Chancellor, RN spent 14 years as a nurse, much of it traveling the country as an ICU nurse. A fractured spine and severe PTSD during COVID took her off the floor indefinitely. What came next was a memoir, a coaching practice, and a mission: reminding the helpers of the world that they are worthy of the same compassion they give. Matthew Harless, RN brings over twenty years of clinical experience across psychiatric care, emergency medicine, rehabilitation, and hospital leadership. He's the creator of the Harless Method and the Hope Assessment, tools designed to help burned-out clinicians measure where their hope actually stands and start moving toward recovery instead of self-blame. Together, they're making the case that hope isn't a soft skill or a poster slogan. It's infrastructure. And it can be measured, built, and protected. In this conversation, Rosa, Ashley, and Matt dig into the real difference between burnout and moral injury, walk through the Hope Assessment live on air, talk about what it looks like to use hope-informed care in real clinical settings, and ask the hard question: what would it actually take to fix this? Resources mentioned in this episode: hopeassessment.org [hopeassessment.org] ashleymchancellor.com [ashleymchancellor.com] mattharless.com [mattharless.com] nursesshiftchange.org [nursesshiftchange.org] Just a Nurse by Ashley Chancellor Medicine Under the Mango Tree by Ashley Chancellor (upcoming) Transition to Care by Matthew Harless Ashley on TikTok and Instagram: @justanurse_rn Rosa on all socials: @nurserosaspeaks