The Business of Wellness

#46 The NFL Star Who Nearly Died on Everest | Mark Pattison

51 min · 23 jul 2026
aflevering #46 The NFL Star Who Nearly Died on Everest | Mark Pattison artwork

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Mark Pattison is 64, and he's in better shape now than he was in the NFL. That's the part of this conversation I keep coming back to. He walked me through the daily discipline behind it: three to four hours of movement, 15,000 steps a day, and breaking his own clinic stress-test record year after year. We also got into the two things most people overlook as they age, the socialization and sense of purpose that show up in every Blue Zone, and why he has no plans to ever retire. If you've been telling yourself the good years are behind you, this one's going to challenge that. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46vct60⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/46vct60] Click here to order your personalized poster!: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46J08MS⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/46J08MS] Connect with Mark Pattison Get Mark Pattison’s  book, “Finding Your Summit”: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4fzTETV⁠⁠ [https://a.co/d/08DAK2ew]  Listen to "Finding Your Summit" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wUx7Il⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLea3YUPj-FSR3-l9Kc7uNpePmkejtyTST]  Spotify: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pvuYAk⁠⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/show/3pDlz0vTnbicdNjSe9B8eM]  Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wPekye⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-your-summit/id1242622297]  Connect with Mark Pattison Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pFFaXm⁠⁠ [https://markpattisonnfl.com/]  YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3R7CTY7⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@markpattisonformernfl7summ370]  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wcP1Gk⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/markpattisonnfl/]  Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wkC25C⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/markpattisonnfl/]  TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pAQWSJ⁠⁠ [https://www.tiktok.com/@markpattisonnfl?lang=en]  X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4vONchY⁠⁠ [http://twitter.com/MarkPattisonNFL]  LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pCGzhl⁠⁠ [http://linkedin.com/in/marklpattison]  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 00:55 - Writing the book Finding Your Summit 03:15 - Growing up as an athlete 05:31 - How he made it to the NFL 06:08 - The pyramid of success 09:15 - Why he didn't quit 12:35 - Identity crisis after the NFL 17:22 - Waiting tables after football 18:36 - How the seven summits idea was born 21:41 - Almost dying on Everest 25:18 - Running out of oxygen on the descent 27:48 - What the seven summits cost 29:14 - Bodies on Everest 32:39 - His two daughters 33:00 - NFL Films documentary on his Everest climb 34:12 - What kept him going on the mountain 35:13 - Letting kids suffer and why it matters 37:08 - His daughter Amelia's epilepsy 38:15 - What he's up to now 40:08 - His daily fitness routine 43:00 - Purpose and socialization for longevity 45:40 - Getting remarried 47:16 - Aging at 64 and still crushing it 49:04 - Breaking his own VO2 max record 50:36 - Where to find Mark Pattison Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO]  Connect with David Guttman Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm]  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr] TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI] Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4y2VZze⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4y2VZze] X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza] LinkedIn:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4awQRJv⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4awQRJv]

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aflevering #46 The NFL Star Who Nearly Died on Everest | Mark Pattison artwork

#46 The NFL Star Who Nearly Died on Everest | Mark Pattison

Mark Pattison is 64, and he's in better shape now than he was in the NFL. That's the part of this conversation I keep coming back to. He walked me through the daily discipline behind it: three to four hours of movement, 15,000 steps a day, and breaking his own clinic stress-test record year after year. We also got into the two things most people overlook as they age, the socialization and sense of purpose that show up in every Blue Zone, and why he has no plans to ever retire. If you've been telling yourself the good years are behind you, this one's going to challenge that. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46vct60⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/46vct60] Click here to order your personalized poster!: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46J08MS⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/46J08MS] Connect with Mark Pattison Get Mark Pattison’s  book, “Finding Your Summit”: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4fzTETV⁠⁠ [https://a.co/d/08DAK2ew]  Listen to "Finding Your Summit" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wUx7Il⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLea3YUPj-FSR3-l9Kc7uNpePmkejtyTST]  Spotify: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pvuYAk⁠⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/show/3pDlz0vTnbicdNjSe9B8eM]  Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wPekye⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-your-summit/id1242622297]  Connect with Mark Pattison Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pFFaXm⁠⁠ [https://markpattisonnfl.com/]  YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3R7CTY7⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@markpattisonformernfl7summ370]  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wcP1Gk⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/markpattisonnfl/]  Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wkC25C⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/markpattisonnfl/]  TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pAQWSJ⁠⁠ [https://www.tiktok.com/@markpattisonnfl?lang=en]  X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4vONchY⁠⁠ [http://twitter.com/MarkPattisonNFL]  LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pCGzhl⁠⁠ [http://linkedin.com/in/marklpattison]  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 00:55 - Writing the book Finding Your Summit 03:15 - Growing up as an athlete 05:31 - How he made it to the NFL 06:08 - The pyramid of success 09:15 - Why he didn't quit 12:35 - Identity crisis after the NFL 17:22 - Waiting tables after football 18:36 - How the seven summits idea was born 21:41 - Almost dying on Everest 25:18 - Running out of oxygen on the descent 27:48 - What the seven summits cost 29:14 - Bodies on Everest 32:39 - His two daughters 33:00 - NFL Films documentary on his Everest climb 34:12 - What kept him going on the mountain 35:13 - Letting kids suffer and why it matters 37:08 - His daughter Amelia's epilepsy 38:15 - What he's up to now 40:08 - His daily fitness routine 43:00 - Purpose and socialization for longevity 45:40 - Getting remarried 47:16 - Aging at 64 and still crushing it 49:04 - Breaking his own VO2 max record 50:36 - Where to find Mark Pattison Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO]  Connect with David Guttman Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm]  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr] TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI] Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4y2VZze⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4y2VZze] X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza] LinkedIn:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4awQRJv⁠⁠ [https://bit.ly/4awQRJv]

23 jul 202651 min
aflevering #45 Do This 5-Minute Breath Every Morning to Reset Your Nervous System (VO2 Max 58 at 53) | Brian Coones artwork

#45 Do This 5-Minute Breath Every Morning to Reset Your Nervous System (VO2 Max 58 at 53) | Brian Coones

I sat down with Brian Coones and talked about the story of how three days in a coma at 39,  with a six-month-old daughter at home, rebuilt his entire life. We got into why he believes IQ is essentially fixed, but emotional intelligence is a skill you can train at any age, and how a simple morning breathwork practice left him with the VO2 max of a teenager at 53. If you've ever had everything you thought you wanted and still felt no peace, this one's going to hit close to home. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 [https://bit.ly/46vct60] Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS [https://bit.ly/46J08MS] Listen to "The REWIRE Podcast" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4bol4e4 [https://bit.ly/4bol4e4]  Spotify: https://bit.ly/44ysVSv [https://open.spotify.com/show/08WW6XrGwgckikcfgC2XHH]  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4vAmSYL [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rewire-with-brian-coones/id1488382435]  Connect with Brian Coones Website: https://bit.ly/451VeJg [https://briancoones.com/]  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4vynX38 [https://www.youtube.com/@briancoones]  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4hldqEW [https://www.instagram.com/briancoones/]  TikTok: https://bit.ly/4hh2PLf [https://www.tiktok.com/@briancoones]  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4haiJXS [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-coones-51129b67/]  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 00:52 - Growing up in a small town 02:11 - Boxing and his grandfather's influence 02:49 - What is emotional fitness and Rewire 03:46 - Early success and losing himself 05:25 - Accidental overdose and the wake-up call 06:25 - How it affected his wife and family 06:59 - Who he works with today 08:44 - Weekend retreats in the wilderness 09:55 - Servant leaders vs visionary jerks 11:16 - Is emotional intelligence shifting in leadership 13:00 - Can you measure emotional intelligence 14:04 - EQ is a learnable skill 16:27 - Why retreats don't always stick 19:06 - Who typically comes to his retreats 20:40 - Biggest transformations he's witnessed 21:57 - The power of being honest with yourself 24:41 - How many people are actually self-aware 30:47 - Breathwork and a VO2 max of 58 at 53 31:37 - His full longevity stack 33:28 - Lonely vs being alone 34:10 - Why men struggle with authenticity 35:42 - Getting his kids involved in the work 37:47 - His TED talk and his daughter 38:33 - How he thinks about legacy 40:09 - Ego as a tool, not an identity 42:24 - Curiosity and humility as the two most important traits 44:41 - What he wants his kids to say about him 46:08 - Where to find Brian Coones Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO [https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO] Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm [https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm] Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr [https://www.instagram.com/realdaveguttman/] TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI [https://www.tiktok.com/@realdaveguttman] Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze [https://www.facebook.com/thedavidguttman] X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza [https://x.com/RealDaveGuttman] LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv [https://bit.ly/4awQRJv] SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman [https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman] Download the “Business of Wellness Podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms: Spotify: https://bit.ly/4vN4T2i Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4wdndRU [https://bit.ly/4wdndRU]

16 jul 202646 min
aflevering #44 Why You're Always Tired Even When the Bloodwork Comes Back Normal | Dr. Remina Panjwani artwork

#44 Why You're Always Tired Even When the Bloodwork Comes Back Normal | Dr. Remina Panjwani

I own three sleep trackers, and on any given night, they flat-out disagree.One says I slept great, another says it was trash, and they'll sometimes flip by morning. So I asked Dr. Remina Panjwani the question none of the "sleep experts" could answer for me: how do you actually know if you got a good night's sleep? Her take on why the eight-hour rule isn't real, why my devices can't agree, and the one test that actually measures your rest.   Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 [https://bit.ly/46vct60] Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS [https://bit.ly/46J08MS] Connect with Dr. Remina Panjwani Get Dr. Remina Panjwani’s book, “ODD GIRL OUT, DOCTOR WITHIN: A Story of Purpose, Pillars, and Personal Power”: https://bit.ly/44U10fU [https://a.co/d/020lOj5X]  Listen to "Dr.Remina Panjwani Show" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4pdN0ai [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTDtEV367TODJh32VI0XSsW9PAu9rs4sf&si=3cGcWijuYZaezcN3]  Spotify: https://bit.ly/4f4iNph [https://open.spotify.com/show/1M0MDfhhOmKX30226bf6h0?si=7996a02f2b554289]  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4vnDBP0 [https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dr-remina-panjwani-show/id1800046773]  Connect with Dr. Remina Panjwani Website: https://bit.ly/44nKNzt [https://www.drremina.com/]  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4fpjRWa [http://www.youtube.com/@ReminaPanjwaniShow]  Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RqdTLC [https://www.instagram.com/drremina/]  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4bwHbyS [http://facebook.com/remina.panjwani]  TikTok: https://bit.ly/44maKiV [https://www.tiktok.com/@drremina?_t=ZT-8tZUjo1aGfD&_r=1]  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4bwHf1A [https://www.linkedin.com/in/remina-panjwani-do-b80000142/]  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 01:16 - From survival mode to the military 03:58 - The long road to becoming a doctor 06:53 - How panic attacks led to functional medicine 11:58 - AI, the human touch, and a broken system 16:14 - Inside a boutique functional practice 17:49 - GLP-1s, muscle wasting, and longevity 21:51 - Genes, testing, and trusting the data 25:37 - Bloodwork, TRT, and building a foundation 27:02 - Do you really need eight hours of sleep? 30:20 - HRV, VO2 max, and what they really mean 33:13 - Sarcopenia, falls, and training to last 36:34 - Where to find Dr. Remina Panjwani Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO [https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO] Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm [https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm] Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr [https://www.instagram.com/realdaveguttman/] TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI [https://www.tiktok.com/@realdaveguttman] Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze [https://www.facebook.com/thedavidguttman] X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza [https://x.com/RealDaveGuttman] LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv [https://bit.ly/4awQRJv] SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman [https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman] Download the “Business of Wellness Podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms: Spotify: https://bit.ly/4vN4T2i [https://bit.ly/4vN4T2i] Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4wdndRU [https://bit.ly/4wdndRU]

9 jul 202639 min
aflevering #43 Why You Still Feel Empty After Success | Jake Whan artwork

#43 Why You Still Feel Empty After Success | Jake Whan

I sat down with breathwork facilitator and TEDx speaker Jake Whan to talk about why he felt completely empty even after building a successful business and getting his health dialed in, and what he discovered about the emotions we numb instead of feel. We get into his contrarian take that what we call depression is often just grief and sadness that were never allowed to move, why he believes numbing those feelings (with distraction or medication) keeps us stuck, and the profound spiritual experience that changed how he sees shame, healing, and connection. Whether or not you share his spiritual lens, his core claim is testable: you can sit with the emotion you've been running from and discover that you felt it, and you're fine.  Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 [https://bit.ly/46vct60] Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS [https://bit.ly/46J08MS] Listen to "The Second Coming" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/3SAgD9C [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5boxLpFu93zqNXsDlxk05wFdlgHbPkzs]  Spotify: https://bit.ly/4as1Rb1 [https://open.spotify.com/show/033hkyfyvdRQhcQfWCKuQv]  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4eE9rSp [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-coming/id1896868621]  Join Jake Whan's "The Ascension Shift" on for exclusive teachings, breathwork, and community!:  https://bit.ly/4v2KS6t [https://ascensionuniversity.life/home-335012]  Connect with Jake Whan Website: https://bit.ly/4v2KS6t [https://ascensionuniversity.life/]  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eQBFbo [https://www.youtube.com/@jakewhan]  Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RdJJLt [https://www.instagram.com/jake_whan/]  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4gR4Spb [https://www.facebook.com/jake.whan.7/]  TikTok: https://bit.ly/4v3UFJp [https://www.tiktok.com/@jake_whan1]  X: https://bit.ly/3Rbcusg [https://www.tiktok.com/@jake_whan1]  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4v5drQA [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakewhan/]  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 01:36 - His grandfather and the awareness that shaped him 04:02 - A childhood ruled by allergies and asthma 04:25 - Success at 25 and the emptiness underneath 06:00 - The turning point in the Austin parking lot 07:28 - Finding breathwork and a life coach 08:10 - Breath as spirit and feeling what's within 11:07 - How people find him and Ascension University 13:43 - Inside the six-week Soul Activation Course 15:38 - Wounds, victimhood, and reclaiming agency 16:59 - Turning your wounds into your gifts 20:00 - SSRIs, numbing, and finding your own authority 22:00 - Why your sadness is not a disorder 24:06 - Depression as unfelt grief 26:25 - Spirituality without religious dogma 29:38 - The breathwork session where he felt God 33:32 - Why some people feel God and some don't 35:32 - Authenticity, vulnerability, and the mask 38:59 - Identity as clothing, not skin 42:17 - Are we ever truly alone? Connection and source 46:15 - Legacy, presence, and what he wants to leave 48:22 - The necklace, the future, and his children  49:50: Where to find Jake Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO [https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO] Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm [https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm] Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr [https://www.instagram.com/realdaveguttman/] TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI [https://www.tiktok.com/@realdaveguttman] Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze [https://www.facebook.com/thedavidguttman] X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza [https://x.com/RealDaveGuttman] LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv [https://bit.ly/4awQRJv]

2 jul 202650 min
aflevering #42 The Therapy He Found Overseas Could Redefine Longevity | Sanjiv Lal artwork

#42 The Therapy He Found Overseas Could Redefine Longevity | Sanjiv Lal

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25 jun 202641 min