The Cabrera Lab Podcast

#106: Passive-Aggression Isn’t Passive—It’s Just Dishonest

Get 20% off any STSI course with code INTEGRITY20 — start building your mental fitness today! In this episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University unpack one of the most uncomfortable—but important—distinctions in human behavior: the difference between being passive-aggressive and being direct. They challenge the common belief that passive aggression is somehow “nicer” or less harmful than open aggression, and explain why passive-aggressive behavior is actually a form of dishonest aggression—one that hides intent, creates confusion, and slowly erodes trust. Through everyday examples, cultural patterns, and systems thinking concepts like externalities, identity, and integrity, they show how indirect behavior creates invisible debt that compounds over time. The conversation explores why people learn passive aggression in the first place, how sociocultural norms reinforce it, and how metacognition creates the pause needed to catch it before it spills out sideways. They also explain why living transactionally may help you “get away with things,” but costs you something far more valuable in the long run: self-concept, trust, and deep relationships. If you’ve ever wondered why certain dynamics feel off, why resentment leaks out in strange ways, or why indirect communication never seems to resolve anything, this episode will help you see what’s really happening—and how to change it without pretending, gaslighting, or losing yourself.

#105: Think It Through: Helping Others See What They’re Missing

Get 20% off any STSI course with code SIMPLE20 — start building your mental fitness today! In this Think It Through episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University tackle a deceptively hard question: what do you do when someone is overwhelmed, talking a mile a minute, and stuck inside their own thoughts and emotions? Rather than offering advice or arguing content, they show how to slow a conversation down and help someone actually see their mental model. Using a realistic leadership example about a frustrated manager whose team isn’t meeting KPIs, they walk step-by-step through how systems thinkers uncover hidden structure using distinctions, part–whole thinking, relationships, perspectives, and zooming. Along the way, they reveal why frustration is usually aimed at the wrong thing, how leaders mistakenly place themselves outside the system they’re part of, and why reacting emotionally never improves understanding. By externalizing the mental model—onto paper, objects, or a map—the problem shifts from blaming people to understanding the system. This episode is a practical masterclass in real-time sense-making. If you want to help others think more clearly without controlling, fixing, or lecturing them, this episode shows you exactly how to do it.

#104: It’s Not Too Much Information—It’s Too Little Organization

In this episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University tackle a problem nearly everyone feels but few can name: constant overwhelm in a world flooded with information. From social media and news to work demands and family pressures, it feels like there’s simply too much coming at us all the time. But the real problem isn’t information overload—it’s organization overload. The Cabreras explain why more information doesn’t make us smarter, more informed, or more grounded, and why burnout is often a signal that we’re failing to organize information into meaning. Drawing on decades of research, they show why mental models are built from information and structure, why modern systems teach memorization instead of organization, and how this leaves people vulnerable to manipulation, confirmation bias, and emotional reactivity. They also explore how industries intentionally disguise noise as signal, why phones turn from tools into masters, and how living a life of “tiny experiments” and “tiny peer reviews” can restore clarity in an age of misinformation. From parenting and education to leadership and daily life, this episode offers a powerful reframing: the future belongs to people who can organize information—not just consume it.

#103: Think It Through: When You Know What to Do—but Don’t Do It

Get 20% off any STSI course with code THINKING20 — start building your mental fitness today! In this Think It Through episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University tackle one of the most frustrating human experiences: knowing exactly what you should do—and doing the opposite anyway. Is this a motivation problem, a discipline problem, or something deeper? Using systems thinking and real-world examples like smoking, exercising, speaking up in meetings, and setting boundaries, they reveal the real issue: your behavior is faithfully executing a mental model you haven’t fully seen yet. They explain why mental models can contain contradictory “should” and “should not” rules at the same time, how behavior and language act as road signs to what’s really driving you, and why judging yourself only strengthens the wrong feedback loop. Through practical walkthroughs and a powerful workplace example, they show how to unpack, test, and reorganize mental models so behavior changes naturally—without force or shame. If you’ve ever wondered why willpower isn’t working, this episode will help you see what’s actually going on and give you a clear, humane way forward.

#102: Mental Fitness Explained: Why Intelligence Is More Than IQ

Get 20% off any STSI course with code MOTIVATION20 — start building your mental fitness today! In this episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University unpack a new research paper on mental fitness and challenge nearly everything we think we know about intelligence, burnout, and mental health. Mental fitness, they explain, isn’t a trait, a feeling, or a mindset—it’s a complex adaptive system made up of four interdependent dimensions: cognitive, emotional, motivational, and physical. When any one of these dimensions is neglected, we accumulate hidden “debt” that eventually shuts down our ability to adapt, think clearly, and perform well—even if we’re highly intelligent by traditional measures. They explore why IQ fails to capture what we actually mean by “smart,” how burnout emerges from unbalanced systems rather than personal weakness, and why many modern systems—education, healthcare, therapy—are producing worse outcomes despite good intentions. Along the way, they connect mental fitness to systems thinking, metacognition, emotional intelligence, and real-world adaptability. This episode reframes intelligence as the ability to coordinate the whole person under real constraints—and makes the case that if we want healthier, smarter, more resilient humans, we need to stop optimizing parts and start understanding the system.