Flings of Leon Black

Oversight Needs Oversight with Rep. Maxwell Frost

House Oversight Committee member Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-FL, joins the show to explain why (and who is responsible for) the holdup in getting former Attorney General Pam Bondi to testify about her handling of the Epstein files, what the public could do to help the investigations move forward, and the vision he has for justice when it comes to this sprawling scandal. The Daily Beast [https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-fed-goon-cornered-on-financial-ties-to-epstein/]: Warren Grills Trump’s Fed Pick The CoverUp [https://epsteincoverup.us/report/the-woman-who-knows-too-much-an-ungaro/]: Amanda Ungaro interview Scripps News [https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/crime/epstein-files/high-profile-figures-insiders-set-to-testify-in-epstein-probe]: High profile figures set to testify on Epstein files Reuters [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/virginia-giuffres-family-still-seeks-justice-year-after-her-death-2026-04-23/]: Giuffre Family Still Seeks Justice A Year After Her Death WSJ [https://www.wsj.com/business/gates-foundation-to-cut-20-of-staff-review-epstein-ties-6df2ccea]: Gates Foundation to Cut 20% of Staff Representative Maxwell Frost [https://frost.house.gov/] Oversight Chair James Comer [https://comer.house.gov/contact] Frost post on Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1r19pws/im_congressman_maxwell_alejandro_frost_and/]: What files have you found that I should review? Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Flings of Leon Black

After multi-billionaire Les Wexner cut him off, multi-billionaire Leon Black became pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s primary source of income from 2012 and on. In this episode, William Cohan — who is writing the book on Leon Black and his firm, Apollo Global Management  — explains what Black was keeping Epstein around for, and all the fallout that ensued. Mentioned in this Episode Puck: ⁠Leon Black Discusses Jeffrey Epstein⁠ [https://puck.news/leon-black-discusses-jeffrey-epstein/] The New York Times:⁠ How Epstein Helped Solve a Billionaire’s Problems with Women⁠ [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/business/jeffrey-epstein-leon-black.html?smid=url-share] Report on ⁠Apollo’s Outside Review of the Epstein-Black Relationship⁠ [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1411494/000119312521016405/d118102dex991.htm] ⁠Bloomberg:⁠ [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-01-16/nobody-makes-money-like-apollo-s-ruthless-founder-leon-black] Nobody Makes Money Like Apollo’s Ruthless Founder Leon Black ⁠FT:⁠ [https://www.ft.com/content/74240f9f-f09c-4b15-9011-dccbea2e000c?syn-25a6b1a6=1] Leon Black’s Downfall Confounds the Legacy of MeToo on Wall Street Puck: ⁠Leon Black from the Ashes, Part II⁠ [https://puck.news/leon-black-vs-guzel-ganieva/] Puck: ⁠Leon Black Breaks His Silence on Jeffrey Epstein, Again⁠ [https://puck.news/leon-black-breaks-his-silence-on-epstein-again/] Mother Jones: ⁠Leon Black’s No Good, Very Bad Year⁠ [https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/05/leon-black-apollo-jeffrey-epstein-guzel-ganieva-private-equity/] (covers Guzel Ganieva) The Guardian [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/03/leon-black-lawsuit-epstein] on Wigdor LLC's suit against Leon Black NYT: ⁠Jeffrey Epstein’s Angry Emails to Leon Black⁠ [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/business/jeffrey-epstein-leon-black.html] Join our Patreon community at ⁠Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub⁠ [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

The Melania Presser No One Asked For

The US first lady’s unexpected White House statement denying substantive ties to Jeffrey Epstein took everybody – including Trump – by surprise. What was behind it? The timing coincides with a series of posts from her friend and former Brazilian model Amanda Ungaro, who was deported during a bitter custody fight last year and now vowing to “take down” Melania and her “pedophile husband.” This one’s a doozy, we'll explain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Better Call ... Todd Blanche?

Pam Bondi is out as attorney general — and her 14-month tenure makes her the shortest timer as the nation's top lawyer since Watergate. To put it all into context, NPR’s Justice Correspondent Carrie Johnson joins Elise and Jena to discuss what’s next for the so-called “Justice” Department when it comes to the Epstein-related investigations under acting AG Todd Blanche. They discuss Bondi’s biggest missteps with the Epstein files, what’s next for DOJ, and what avenues might exist for the growing chorus of Americans who don’t want the misdeeds of the billionaire class to be shoved under the rug. Mentioned in this Episode NPR's Carrie Johnson [https://www.npr.org/people/127410674/carrie-johnson] NPR: Trump Removes Bondi as Attorney General [https://www.npr.org/2026/04/03/nx-s1-5771645/trump-removes-pam-bondi-as-attorney-general] Time [https://time.com/article/2026/04/09/pam-bondi-jeffrey-epstein-house-oversight-testimony/]: Bondi Won't Appear Before House Oversight Fox News: Todd Blanche on the Epstein Files [https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392478701112] DOJ: Dr. Larry Nassar's abuse  investigation [https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/21-093.pdf] Time: EPA Head Lee Zeldin as potential AG [https://time.com/article/2026/04/02/lee-zeldin-attorney-general-pam-bondi-trump-fire/] NYMag: Judge Jeanine Pirro as potential AG [https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/judge-jeanine-pirro-attorney-general-trump-jerome-powell.html] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookClub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBook] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

What We Know About The Rothschilds, with Mike Rothschild

How do conspiracy theories take hold, and what makes them endure? The myths around The Rothschild banking family have been around (and used as anti-semitic tropes) for hundreds of years, and the theories are still very much alive. Jeffrey Epstein claimed to work for the family, so Jena dives into the Rothschild family history before journalist Mike Rothschild (no relation) helps us understand fringe beliefs and sort out the actual conspiracy – from conspiracy theories. Mentioned in this Episode Accountant Richard Kahn testimony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDkvCu3epKE]before House Oversight Britannica [https://www.britannica.com/story/where-do-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theories-about-the-rothschild-family-come-from]: Where do antisemitic tropes about the Rothschild family come from? Le Monde [https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/02/05/jeffrey-epstein-s-business-ties-with-banker-ariane-de-rothschild-revealed_6750170_4.html]: Jeffrey Epstein’s business ties with banker Ariane de Rothschild revealed NYT: [https://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/13/arts/from-the-court-jews-uneasy-heyday.html] From the Court Jews’ Uneasy Heyday Stanford: [https://humsci.stanford.edu/feature/stanford-historian-explores-how-expulsions-became-widespread-medieval-europe] Historian explores how explusions became widespread in medieval Europe Journalist Mike Rothschild [https://themikerothschild.com/contact/] Jewish Space Lasers [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733925/jewish-space-lasers-by-mike-rothschild/]: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories, by Mike Rothschild Newsweek: [https://www.newsweek.com/rothschild-family-companies-net-worth-1993369] Who are the Rothschilds, and how much are they worth today? Snopes [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rothschild-family-wealth/]: Fact Check - The Rothschild Family Wealth Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBook] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]