The Ezra Klein Show
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The Ezra Klein Show

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*** Named a best podcast of 2021 by Time, Vulture, Esquire and The Atlantic. *** Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike? Listen to this podcast in New York Times Audio, our new iOS app for news subscribers. Download now at nytimes.com/audioapp 

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Here’s How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work
Last week on the show, I argued [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/opinion/ezra-klein-biden-audio-essay.html] that the Democrats should pick their nominee at the Democratic National Convention in August. It’s an idea that sounds novel but is really old-fashioned. This is how most presidential nominees have been picked in American history. All the machinery to do it is still there; we just stopped using it. But Democrats may need a Plan B this year. And the first step is recognizing they have one. Elaine Kamarck literally wrote the book on how we choose presidential candidates. It’s called “Primary Politics: Everything You Need to Know About How America Nominates Its Presidential Candidates.” She’s a senior fellow in governance studies and the founding director of the Center for Effective Public Management at the Brookings Institution. But her background here isn’t just theory. It’s practice. She has worked on four presidential campaigns and 10 nominating conventions for both Democrats and Republicans. She’s also on the convention’s rules committee and has been a superdelegate at five Democratic conventions. It’s a fascinating conversation, even if you don’t think Democrats should attempt to select their nominee at the convention. The history here is rich, and it is, if nothing else, a reminder that the way we choose candidates now is not the way we have always done it and not the way we must always do it. Book Recommendations: All the King’s Men [https://www.google.com/books/edition/All_the_King_s_Men/prTKs7YY11EC?hl=en] by Robert Penn Warren The Making of the President 1960 [https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-making-of-the-president-1960-theodore-h-white?variant=32207509979170] by Theodore H. White Quiet Revolution [https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/quiet-revolution-the-struggle-for-the-democratic-party-and-the-shaping-of-postreform-politics-by-byron-e-shafer-new-york-russell-sage-foundation-1983-pp-ix-628-2995/69A496A5C96F738CC0228F70CC400375] by Byron E. Shafer Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast [https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast], and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html]. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Kristin Lin. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Rollin Hu. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
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Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden
Biden is faltering and Democrats have no plan B. There is another path to winning in 2024 — and I think they should take it. But it would require them to embrace an old-fashioned approach to winning a campaign. Mentioned: The Lincoln Miracle [https://groveatlantic.com/book/the-lincoln-miracle/] by Edward Achorn If you have a question for the AMA, you can call 212-556-7300 and leave a voice message or email ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com [ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com] with the subject line, “2024 AMA." You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This audio essay for “The Ezra Klein Show” was fact-checked by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
25 min - 16 feb 2024
Best Of: Status Games, Polyamory and the Merits of Meritocracy
For years, Agnes Callard has been on a mission to take ethical philosophy out of the ivory tower. She examines everyday human experiences — jockeying for status, navigating jealousy, marriage — with dazzling detail, publishing regularly in mainstream publications. And she tries to live by her philosophy, too, even if it violates social conventions, as many discovered when The New Yorker published a provocative profile of Callard [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/13/agnes-callard-profile-marriage-philosophy] last year.  We recorded this conversation in May 2021, before the New Yorker article drew attention to the details of her home life. (She lives with both her husband and her ex-husband.) But after our episode with Rhaina Cohen about imagining relationships more expansively, we thought it would be interesting to revisit Callard, who has spent so much time dissecting the dynamics and ethics of different relationships and their possibilities. Mentioned: “Who Wants to Play the Status Game [https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/who-wants-to-play-the-status-game-agnes-callard/]?” by Agnes Callard, The Point “Against Advice [https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/against-advice-agnes-callard/],” by Agnes Callard, The Point “The Other Woman [https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/the-other-woman/],” by Agnes Callard, The Point “Parenting and Panic [https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/parenting-and-panic-agnes-callard/],” by Agnes Callard, The Point "Aspiration" [https://www.amazon.com/Aspiration-Agency-Becoming-Agnes-Callard/dp/0190639482] by Agnes Callard Book Recommendations: "Tolstoy: A Russian Life" [https://profilebooks.com/work/tolstoy/] by Rosamund Bartlett "Pessoa: A Biography" [https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871404718] by Richard Zenith "Augustine of Hippo" [https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520280410/augustine-of-hippo] by Peter Brown “Real Death [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1UyUsz0A-A]” by Mount Eerie Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast [https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast]. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html]. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
1 h 22 min - 13 feb 2024

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