The Hopeful Church
In this episode, Darrell Gwaltney sits down with Todd Deatherage, Co-Founder and Executive Director of Telos, to explore how Christian discipleship is shaped through peacemaking, reconciliation, and honest engagement with complex conflict. Telos’ primary area of focus has been on America’s relationship to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In more recent years, they’ve developed programming aimed at addressing issues of racial injustice in the U.S. and examining lessons from the Good Friday Peace Agreement in Northern Ireland. Prior to Telos, Todd worked at the U.S. State Department in the Administration of President George W. Bush and served on Capitol HIll as Chief of Staff to U.S. Senator Tim Hutchinson (R-AR). This conversation offers a compelling vision of what it means for the church to move beyond easy answers and toward embodied witness, relational courage, and a deeper understanding of shalom. Todd explains why peacemaking is not about picking sides, but about following Jesus, and how churches can be formed through proximity, listening, and shared experiences that open hearts and reshape perspectives. In this episode: 1. How Todd’s faith journey shaped his work in peacemaking and reconciliation 2. Why peacemaking is central to Christian discipleship 3. How churches can curiously engage complexity without reducing people to simple categories 4. The role of travel, immersion, and shared experience in spiritual formation for pastors and church leaders 5. Why transformation often begins when hearts are opened, not just minds informed 6. How churches can become hopeful, reconciling agents in their own communities 7. Examples of congregations engaging local justice, history, and community needs in new and innovative ways Resources & Links: 1. Telos's Website [https://www.telosgroup.org] Connect with The Moench Center for Church Leadership 1. Sign Up for our Newsletter [https://app.e2ma.net/app2/audience/signup/2096977/2009312/] 2. Follow Us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcclbelmont/] 3. Watch The Hopeful Church Podcast on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@moenchcenter/videos] Connect with Todd Deatherage 1. Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/todd.deatherage/] Connect with Darrell Gwaltney 1. LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrell-gwaltney-16873a43/] 2. Twitter [https://twitter.com/darrellgwaltney] Remember: Hope is not optimism, but active trust in a God who is making things right now. This episode reminds us that the church’s calling is not to defend territory, but to share love, pursue peace, and participate in God’s ongoing work of reconciliation. The Hopeful Church Podcast is an initiative of the Moench Center for Church Leadership at Belmont University. To learn more about Belmont University, go to belmont.edu [https://belmont.edu].
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