The Market Runup
Host Erin Gambrel (The Blonde Broker) sits down with DeFi Dave, co-founder of CAP, to get into why credit has always been the engine of the economy and why onchain credit might finally be the story that pulls institutions and retail alike back into DeFi. Dave breaks down how CAP works — a three-sided marketplace of depositors, borrowers, and underwriters where smart contracts replace the trust you'd otherwise have to put in people — and explains why firms like Susquehanna and Franklin Templeton are already borrowing and backing it. He explains what went wrong in crypto: too many L2s nobody asked for, a community that drank its own Kool-Aid, and a space that lost its storytelling ability somewhere between DeFi summer and ETH Denver 2025. TIMESTAMPS 3:41 — Introducing CAP: How the Credit Platform Works 10:24 — Transparency & Trust in Credit Markets 12:40 — Where Capital Is Flowing Today 15:59 — Crypto Lost the Plot — And Lore Building 20:21 — The Rise of Private Credit 23:41 — CAP's Yield Model & Rates 25:26 — Has Investor Psychology Fundamentally Changed? 30:52 — What Institutions Get That Retail Doesn't 32:28 — Tokenization's Next Five Years Host: Erin Gambrel (The Blonde Broker) Host Socials: @theblondebroker (X) | @blondebrokerofficial (Instagram) You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps. Spotify: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbC1wRk0yX2xxZG1scWRlZFhHV3V3QkpWR0RJZ3xBQ3Jtc0treGFBUWVDRGYyYWN1UGprSjItckRKNnROZ2x4Sl8yNjZJWnV6SFBVaXMwb2RObm14MDRHUnpZUmFxcWZlbTBfVGtlelF5bl9ObzkxMGNiU1ZwWGJfYllwZFJhZmNxd0pTaklBLUZuaGZfUkVKRWNIRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ&v=bHnKqwU_Pm0https://open.spotify.com/show/5uNrU4WCIaMVJjgH6NlMUT [https://open.spotify.com/show/5uNrU4WCIaMVJjgH6NlMUT] Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDdpM0dxMUp3ZktXNm5tdWJscE5FbEw2ZnJsQXxBQ3Jtc0ttcnI3VHNVR0ctNXdobGZabVEtTE9aVW51OGJhcnZ0UFhmNmVCdHcyVHJQSi1SNGtUeU0xZnVqVUFlak9qaEdvcmRvXzRtWlpYSWpUZkNMZUpuQWZsS3ZWRW5ZelRvQWw4Y2xyYmxwMVdsd2toY3RWNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Ftalking-tokens%2Fid1743669141&v=bHnKqwU_Pm0https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-market-runup/id1877489132 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-market-runup/id1877489132] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMarketRunup [https://www.youtube.com/@TheMarketRunup] Follow us on X: https://x.com/TheMarketRunup [https://x.com/TheMarketRunup] Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.
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