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Thinking on Paper helps you understand what technology is really doing to business, culture, family and society. Through direct conversations with CEOS, Founders and Outliers, we break down how systems work, where human incentives distort them, and what the headlines skim over. If a technology shapes the world - AI, quantum computing, digital identity, gameplay engines, surveillance, regulation, energy, space manufacturing - it’s on Thinking On Paper. Guests: IBM, D-Wave, Coinbase, Kevin Kelly and more. Just add curiosity.
Making Music Got Easy, Now Taste & Tech Matter More Than Ever │AI, Math & Attribution - Nicholas Ponari, Overtune Music
When making music took heartbreak, a thousand late nights and bleeding fingers, effort was the gatekeeper. Now AI lets anyone generate a song, judgement and taste become the differentiators. In today’s show, Mark and Jeremy Think On Paper with Nicholas Ponari - investor, guitar player, and Chief Operating Officer at Overtune - about who gets credit, and who gets paid, when creation becomes easy. Ponari argues the real fight isn’t whether AI music is “real.” It’s attribution. Overtune is betting you can treat music like math: convert stems into vectors in high-dimensional space, measure the “distance” between inputs and outputs, and use those weightings to decide who contributed what and who gets paid? Please enjoy the show. And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper. Cheers, Mark & Jeremy PS: Please subscribe. It’s the best way you can help other curious minds find our channel. Take your Technology thinking beyond. * Listen to every podcast [https://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/] * Follow us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/] * Follow us on X [https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod] * Follow Mark on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfielding99/] * Follow Jeremy on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygilbertson/] * Read our Substack [https://disruptorsandcuriousminds.substack.com/] * Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz [hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz] Watch On YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsu7DjLyYFM] TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Trailer (00:59) Why music feels like “magic” (04:51) Overtune’s real customer: vocalists who can’t produce (07:51) The hard problem: attribution, not “make a song” (08:05) Why the easy button fails (12:49) Training on licensed music and where the ethics line sits (16:08) Who gets paid: splits, volume, and realistic expectations (18:32) How attribution actually works: vectors, thresholds, and cutoffs (20:44) Can scraped music ever be fixed after the fact (27:07) Interactive music, live coding, and the future of performance (29:14) The Kevin Kelly question: what do we want humans to be?
The EV Battery Wars: China Vs America And The Fight For The Electric Stack │ Magnets, Oil And Tesla
China controls every Tesla, drone and electric toothbrush. Why? Because it produces over half of the world’s lithium-ion batteries and more than 90% of all neodymium magnets. They are the core ingredient in Teslas, drones, robots, and every electric motor you interact with daily. China also mines 70% of global rare earths and processes 85–90% of them. The Electric Stack is Chinese. In this episode of Thinking on Paper, Mark and Jeremy read Packy McCormick’s Not Boring Essay: The Electric Slide to understand the history, economics and technology of the electric stack. Because if it can go electric, it will go electric. The story of the Electric Stack - and the slide - begins in 1973 with the oil crisis. Everyone’s favourite oil company, Exxon, funded early lithium battery research by Stan Whittingham. Stan’s batteries exploded. Enter John B Goodenough, the man with the best name in technology. He has a voltage breakthrough. Akira Yoshino joins the show and stabilises the technology further. Sony get a whiff and use them to shrink the Handycam. It’s the Alpha product that makes lithium-ion batteries a global product and a commercial goldmine. Elon Musk and Tesla take up the EV mantle. Tesla’s early cell-pack experiments, coupled with Panasonic’s partnership accelerate the progress. Battery maker A123 in the United States collapses. China eventually acquire it for a fraction of its value. The Beijing Olympics becomes a turning point: BYD test large battery systems in buses across the city, gaining a lead that CATL and BYD still hold today. Then come the magnets. Neodymium magnets were discovered in 1983 in parallel by Masato Sagawa in Japan and John Croat at GM. They powered the boom in hard drives, then drones, then the emerging humanoid robotics market. Today, China produces nearly all of them. America is playing catch-up, does it stand a chance? Please enjoy the show. And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper. Cheers, Mark & Jeremy PS: Please subscribe. It’s the best way you can help other curious minds find our channel. -- Other ways to connect with us: * Listen to every podcast [https://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/] * Follow us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/] * Follow us on X [https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod] * Follow Mark on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfielding99/] * Follow Jeremy on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygilbertson/] * Read our Substack [https://disruptorsandcuriousminds.substack.com/] * Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz [hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz] -- Timestamps (00:00) The Electric Stack (02:13) Beginnings: War, The Oil Crisis & Stan Whittingham (03:46) The Song Handycam: Lateral Thinking With Withered Technology (05:06) Tesla, Elon And Handycam Batteries In An EV (06:46) China Buys US Battery Company A-123 At A Carboot Sale (08:40) China, The Olympics And The Serendipity of Battery Technology (11:37) Faraday And The Birth Of Neodymium Magnets (14:26) The 3.5 Inch Neodymium Magnet Alpha Product (16:46) Magnequench (18:16) Drones, Ukraine And The Magnet War Machine (20:16) Politics, Rare Earths And 'The Future's Too Important' T-shirts
Americans Can’t Afford Homes: The Broken Housing Model and the Case for Stable Living │ Chris Moeller
The median US income is $68,000. Only 13% of the US workforce earns a salary; everyone else is paid by the hour or hustling in the gig economy. The median home price is $440,000. Housing is unaffordable because the system is built to extract value rather than create stability. “Affordable housing” is a great idea. But flawed. It relies on outdated subsidies, wage assumptions that no longer hold, and ownership models that extract rather than stabilise. Chris Moeller joins Mark and Jeremy to Think on Paper about an alternative: stable living. Stable living is a model built on long-term security instead of short-term yield. It separates land from structures, brings ownership back to residents, and uses impact capital, industrialised construction, and better coordination technology to rebuild the fundamentals. Please enjoy the show. And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper. Cheers, Mark & Jeremy PS: Please subscribe. It’s the best way you can help other curious minds find our channel. -- Other ways to connect with us: * Listen to every podcast [https://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/] * Follow us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/] * Follow us on X [https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod] * Follow Mark on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfielding99/] * Follow Jeremy on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygilbertson/] * Read our Substack [https://disruptorsandcuriousminds.substack.com/] * Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz [hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz] -- Timestamps (00:00) Trailer (03:19) Challenges of Homeownership (05:46) The Housing Market Dynamics (08:29) Technology's Role in Housing Solutions (10:41) Innovations in Construction (12:29) Financing Housing for All (15:06) Reimagining Ownership Models (16:30) Technology's Role in Food Access and Coordination (18:43) Adaptive Reuse in Real Estate and Community Development (19:58) Commercial Real Estate Challenges Post-COVID (23:15) Infrastructure Needs for Sustainable Living (25:31) Global Community and Local Solutions (26:45) Stable Living for Civil Servants and Community Heroes (28:20) Creating Stability and Long-Term Impact
The Universe Is Conscious: This Book Might Prove It │ Federico Faggin, Irreducible
What is consciousness? We're reading Irreducible, Federico Faggin's incredible book on quantum information based consciousness, to find out. Do we agree with it? Quantum based panpsychism? A conscious universe run by quantum conscious units called Seities? Not sure yet. Only in the last hundred years, with the advent of quantum physics, have we made great strides in understanding the nature of reality. We have, in fact, discovered that matter — which seems solid and compact — is instead made of vibratory energy. During the last 20 years, we have understood that everything is made up of quantum information. However, there's still no theory capable of giving us a vision of the world that is consistent with both general relativity and quantum physics. In this book, I put forward the hypothesis that the universe has been conscious and had free will forever. Please enjoy. And share with a conscious friend. Cheers, Mark and Jeremy. PS: Please subscribe. It’s the best way you can help other curious minds find our channel. Other ways to connect with us: * Listen to every podcast [https://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/] * Follow us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/] * Follow us on X [https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod] * Follow Mark on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfielding99/] * Follow Jeremy on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygilbertson/] * Read our Substack [https://disruptorsandcuriousminds.substack.com/] * Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz [hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz]
Enshitification: Marketing, Brand Building And How To Avoid The Silicon Valley Cult │ Nick Richtsmeier
How do brands build trust when the internet has decayed into into AI-driven slop and tripe? The systems that once promised connection now work as mirrored cages, feeding your biases, hiding your real customer, and distorting the truth. Nick Richtsmeier, founder of CultureCraft and writer at Damns Given, argues that brands now live inside engineered distortions. Funnels collapse. Neutrality is impossible. And AI is being layered onto a system already built to extract rather than empower. In this conversation, Nick joins Mark and Jeremy to Think on Paper about: * Why brands operate inside algorithmic cages * How information distortion shapes every customer interaction * Why mass neutrality fails and perspective becomes strategy * How modern marketing hijacks curiosity * Why platforms hoard customer insight inside black boxes * How influencers stand in for trust * Why network-based growth outperforms funnels * Why analog tactics and patient capital are becoming competitive advantages This episode tracks the widening distortion gap, the limits of AI-driven marketing, and the slow, analog tactics required to build something real inside an internet optimised for extraction. If platforms are collapsing into noise, where does trust come from? Please enjoy the show. And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper. Cheers, Mark & Jeremy PS: Please subscribe. It’s the best way you can help other curious minds find our channel. -- Be our internet friend: * Listen to every podcast [https://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/] * Follow us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/] * Follow us on X [https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod] * Follow Mark on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfielding99/] * Follow Jeremy on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygilbertson/] * Read our Substack [https://disruptorsandcuriousminds.substack.com/] * Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz [hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz] Watch On YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvDPdvnzjOg&t=2581s] -- Timestamps (00:00) Trailer (01:00) Disruptors & Curious Minds (02:00) Mark Has A Trust Issue (02:42) What Is Trust? (07:14) How Deep-Tech Brands Build Trust? (09:38) Steve Jobs And Selling A Feeling (10:00) The Cult Of Silicon Valley (10:35) Was the Internet Ever Not Shit? (15:05) What Is The “Distortion Gap”? (20:11) Reducing Your Digital Marketing Spend (21:45) Analog Marketing (23:40) Why the Marketing Funnel Never Really Existed (25:08) VCs, Capital And The Comfort Zone Of Risk (27:04) Analog vs Digital: What Actually Creates Meaningful Connection (28:40) How the TikTok Generation Uses the Internet Differently (32:40) Your Curiosity Is Being Hi-Jacked (35:22) What Are Load-Bearing Inefficiencies? (40:47) The Importance Of Resilience in a World Of Entropy (42:29) What Do We Want Humans To Be?
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