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We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry

47 min · 8 jun 2026
aflevering We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry artwork

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What does health actually look like — when you factor in ADHD, night owl energy, systemic barriers, and the courage to say the hard thing out loud? In this episode, I sit down with Jen Fry — conflict resolution coach, speaker, tech entrepreneur, and author of I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk — for a wide-ranging conversation about redefining health on our own terms. We talk about why "we all have the same 24 hours" is a myth that ignores real systemic barriers, how to have direct conversations without blowing things up, what it means to be a villager in your community, and why the consequence you're afraid of might already be happening. This one goes places. Come curious. 📚 Guest Info * Website: https://jenfrytalks.com * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jenfrytalks * Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/jenfrytalks * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenfrytalks * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jenfrytalks 📚 Resources Mentioned I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and BoundariesWithout Being a Jerk by Jen Fry — available on her website (includes signed copy + bookmark + sticker) or on Amazon and Barnes & Noble Let’s Stay Connected 🎧Subscribe to the show! 📬Subscribe to ⁠ [https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion]The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter: https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_dawn_hunter

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aflevering We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry artwork

We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry

What does health actually look like — when you factor in ADHD, night owl energy, systemic barriers, and the courage to say the hard thing out loud? In this episode, I sit down with Jen Fry — conflict resolution coach, speaker, tech entrepreneur, and author of I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk — for a wide-ranging conversation about redefining health on our own terms. We talk about why "we all have the same 24 hours" is a myth that ignores real systemic barriers, how to have direct conversations without blowing things up, what it means to be a villager in your community, and why the consequence you're afraid of might already be happening. This one goes places. Come curious. 📚 Guest Info * Website: https://jenfrytalks.com * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jenfrytalks * Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/jenfrytalks * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenfrytalks * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jenfrytalks 📚 Resources Mentioned I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and BoundariesWithout Being a Jerk by Jen Fry — available on her website (includes signed copy + bookmark + sticker) or on Amazon and Barnes & Noble Let’s Stay Connected 🎧Subscribe to the show! 📬Subscribe to ⁠ [https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion]The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter: https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_dawn_hunter

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aflevering You're Never Stuck | Choosing the Life You Want with Calvalyn Day artwork

You're Never Stuck | Choosing the Life You Want with Calvalyn Day

Are you building a life that feels right for you , or one shaped by expectations, achievement, and what you think you're supposed to do? In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter sits down with Calvalyn Day to explore freedom, flexibility, reinvention, and the choices that shape our lives. Together, they unpack why so many people live by the "shoulds," how external validation can quietly drive our decisions, and why feeling stuck is often an invitation to get curious rather than stay still. Calvalyn shares her own journey of choosing a different path and offers practical insights on values, healing, self-trust, and creating a life aligned with what matters most. They discuss: * Why flexibility is more than just your work schedule * Breaking free from external validation * Why you're never too old — and never too stuck — to choose differently * The role values play in shaping decisions * Healing, reinvention, and learning to trust yourself * Why work should be third Because building a meaningful life doesn't start with havingall the answers. It starts with listening to your own voice. 📚 Guest Info * Website: https://www.calvalynday.com/ [https://www.calvalynday.com/] * YouTube: https://youtube.com/@calvalyn?si=d6Gr6bjzTttMmicl [https://youtube.com/@calvalyn?si=d6Gr6bjzTttMmicl] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calvalyn/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/calvalyn/?hl=en] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@calvalynday [https://www.tiktok.com/@calvalynday?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc] 🎶Calvalyn's contribution to Work is Third: The Soundtrack: T.I., Let 'Em Know Let’s Stay Connected 🎧 Subscribe to the show! 📬 Subscribe to The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter [https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion] 📸 Instagram: @the_dawn_hunter [https://www.instagram.com/the_dawn_hunter]

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aflevering Prepare for the Future & Live for Today | Letting Go of Outcomes with DeMonta Whiting artwork

Prepare for the Future & Live for Today | Letting Go of Outcomes with DeMonta Whiting

Have you ever felt like you’re always trying to do enough, be enough, have enough? In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter talks with psychotherapist and coach DeMonta Whiting about people pleasing, emotional resilience, identity, and learning how to stop tying your worth to productivity. Together, they explore how childhood beliefs shape adult behaviors, why so many high achievers struggle to feel “good enough,” and what it means to prepare for the future while still living fully in the present. DeMonta shares his experience surviving a rare cancer diagnosis at a young age, how it transformed his perspective on life, and why letting go of outcomes can create more peace, connection, and authenticity. This conversation is a reminder that when we believe we are enough, we can let the chips fall where they may. Topics include: * People pleasing and perfectionism * High achievement and emotional wellbeing * Childhood beliefs and adult relationships * Letting go of outcomes * Boundaries and self-worth * Living fully in the present * Therapy, healing, and identity * Work-life balance and burnout 📚 Guest Info * Website: DeMonta Whiting Coaching & Therapy [https://www.demontawhiting.com/] * Instagram: @demonta_the_therapist [https://www.instagram.com/demonta_the_therapist] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/demontawhitinglmft [https://www.linkedin.com/in/demontawhitinglmft] 🎶DeMonta's contribution to the playlist: "Feeling Good" by Nina Simone Let’s Stay Connected 🎧Subscribe to the show! 📬Subscribe to The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter [https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion] 📸 Instagram: @the_dawn_hunter [https://www.instagram.com/the_dawn_hunter]

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aflevering Be the Thermostat, Not the Thermometer | Protecting Your Peace With Rene Rivas artwork

Be the Thermostat, Not the Thermometer | Protecting Your Peace With Rene Rivas

What if protecting your peace doesn’t mean staying quiet—but finally speaking up? In this episode of Work is Third, Dawn Hunter talks with Rene Rivas, entrepreneur, nurse, and founder of RevIVe+ Mobile IV Concierge, about healing, presence, vulnerability, and redefining success on your own terms. Rene shares his journey from difficult workplace experiences to building a business rooted in prevention and wellbeing. Together, Dawn and Rene explore the power of community, how joy can be a daily choice, why adulthood may need to be reimagined, and the difference between being a thermometer who reacts to the room—or a thermostat who sets the tone. 📚 Guest Info * Website: revive2you.com  * Socials: @revive2yo Let’s Stay Connected 🎧 Subscribe to the show! 📬Subscribe to The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter [https://thedawnlab.kit.com/joyfulrebellion] 📸 Instagram: @the_dawn_hunter [https://www.instagram.com/the_dawn_hunter]

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aflevering You’re Not Who They Told You to Be | How to Rewrite Your Story With James Lumumba artwork

You’re Not Who They Told You to Be | How to Rewrite Your Story With James Lumumba

Have you ever had a moment where you stopped and thought… how much of who I am is actually me? In this episode of Work is Third, Dawn Hunter sits down with James Lumumba, host of Don’t Be Afraid to Talk, for a powerful conversation on identity and how to rewrite the stories we’ve been told about ourselves. Together, they explore how many of the beliefs people carry about themselves are shaped by early experiences, expectations, and the need to belong along with what it takes to question and rewrite those stories. This episode covers: * Letting go of external expectations * Understanding guilt and people-pleasing * The connection between belonging and self-worth * Rewriting personal narratives * Learning to love yourself and build healthier relationships Through honest reflection and shared experience, this conversation offers a reminder that self-awareness is the first step toward real change, and that it’s possible to define yourself on your own terms. 📚 Guest Info * Website: https://co-creatingcoach.ie/ [https://co-creatingcoach.ie/] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontbeafraidtotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/dontbeafraidtotalk/] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameslumumba/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameslumumba/] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Dontbeafraidtotalk/ [https://www.facebook.com/Dontbeafraidtotalk/] 📔Resources Mentioned * Pieta House, Pieta | Preventing Suicide and Self-Harm since 2006 [https://www.pieta.ie/] * Movie: Banshees of Inisherin (2022)

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