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Craftsmanship, Entrepreneurship & Building Something That Lasts with David Stine & Stephanie Abbajay

43 min · 11. mai 2026
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In this episode of CapLander, Jody and Morgan discuss the spirit of entrepreneurship and leadership with David Stine and Stephanie Abbajay - while digging into the realities of what it's like working with your spouse. David shares how he left a successful law career and turned his woodworking hobby into a pursuit of excellence, becoming a featured exhibitor at the Architectural Digest Design Show for 13 years straight. From balancing risk and family to supporting each other through growth and uncertainty, this episode explores the human side of entrepreneurship - and what it really takes to build a business, one bench at a time.

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