Ep 187: “I Didn’t Believe He Existed” — Finding Love Again After a 20-Year Toxic Marriage

Ep 187: “I Didn’t Believe He Existed” — Finding Love Again After a 20-Year Toxic Marriage

Some conversations stay with you long after you stop recording. My conversation with Junie Moon was one of them. If you’ve ever smiled on the outside while quietly falling apart on the inside, this episode is for you. Junie spent 20 years in a marriage where she walked on eggshells, managing everyone’s moods, micromanaging every detail, making herself smaller so she wouldn’t rock the boat. From the outside, she looked like she had it all together. Inside, she was 200 pounds, miserable, and completely disconnected from herself. What struck me most is how far back it actually went. Junie thought her story started with the marriage. But as we talked, she realized the eggshells started in childhood, with a mother whose illness made the house unpredictable, and a father she idolized who died when she was just 14. She learned early: be the good little girl, don’t drop the ball, don’t lose the love. So she became the fiercely independent one. The woman who could handle anything on her own and never needed to rely on anyone. That’s a trauma response. And like she said, it works beautifully, until it doesn’t. The moment everything changed For Junie, the turning point had a face. Her son. When he was 12, getting bullied at school and then coming home to be bullied again, she watched her six-foot husband tower over her child. And something in her body said enough. She stepped between them. She broke the rule she’d been trained to follow her whole life, don’t stand up, don’t make it worse and she protected her son. That was the moment she picked up the sword. She was no longer willing to witness abuse, or to accept it. Everything changed from there. Our kids really are our greatest teachers, if we’re willing to look in that mirror. Why “just let them go” doesn’t work for everyone We got into something I think a lot of you will feel in your body. When The Let Them Theory went viral, I moderated several packed book clubs on it. And what came up wasn’t the relief everyone expected. For a lot of people, it brought up shame. Because some folks can just let go, while for others, releasing control feels like cutting off a leg. Here’s the thing Junie and I both keep coming back to: that’s not a mindset problem. It’s a nervous system thing. The part of you that learned control equals safety isn’t going to surrender just because a book told it to. That part kept you alive. Of course it doesn’t want to let go. In my work, we call this parts work. In Junie’s world, it’s shadow work, shining a light on the pieces of ourselves we decided long ago were too much, too vulnerable, too angry, too bright, and learning to bring them back in a healthy, integrated way. Different language, same heart. We’re helping people move from being part-led back to being Self-led. Self-trust is an inside job So many of the women Junie works with single women in midlife, often after narcissistic abuse, believe they’ve already done the healing. They’ve rebuilt their lives, they feel good, they think they trust themselves again. But one foot is on the gas (I’d love to meet someone) and one foot is quietly on the brake (what if I crash and burn again, what if I can’t trust myself?). That brake is the part that never got healed. Junie said something I wrote down: trust is an inside job. Yes, there are bad actors out there. But the real work is cultivating a relationship with yourself where you know — in your body, not just your head, that you’ll have your own back. That you’ll see the red flag and get out of dodge. She keeps a little pink sign in her space that says, “Know your truth and trust your knowing.” Because so often we do know our truth. It’s the trusting of it that gets eroded in these relationships, where self-doubt and self-judgment grow up together. The naked truth about shame I have to tell you about the bravest thing Junie has ever done. A few years into her healing, she was interviewing a well-known body painter for her streaming show. Mid-conversation she had a wild thought: what if he painted me, live, on camera? Then it hit her, he paints naked people. And after a lifetime of body shame, big and small, of not wanting to leave the house because someone might comment on her thighs, she realized she’d come far enough to do it. To be naked and body-painted for the world to see. It became a mini-documentary called Shed the Shame. It went viral, played in film festivals, and has racked up over 50,000 views. But here’s what she wants you to hear: it was never about getting naked. It was about deep self-love. The body was just the metaphor. As she put it, if she could do that, she could do anything. That fearlessness is the whole point. When you truly have your own back, there’s almost nothing you can’t face. Love beyond her wildest dreams So where is Junie today? She told me she was voice-messaging her partner that very morning, in tears, because she’s so happy. She has, in her words, a man beyond anything she could have imagined. “I didn’t believe he fully existed,” she said. She would have happily taken far less and still been amazed. Instead she got love beyond her wildest dreams, with a partner who’s done his own work and meets her fully. She’s not white-knuckling through her days anymore. She launched her own live talk show, Your Best Life (think Oprah meets the dating game), and she’s pitching a reality show about love in the second half of life. And no, she’s not claiming to live on the mountaintop. She’s in her sixties, her body is changing, and there are still hard moments. The difference is that what used to take her out for months or years now takes minutes or hours. She feels it, she brings herself love and compassion, and she comes back to herself. That’s emotional freedom. That’s the real prize. The one thing she wants you to take with you When I asked for her parting message, it came out organically: be curious about what you might not know. Because if you’re certain you already know everything, there’s no room for something new. And it’s the stuff we can’t yet see that holds the ticket to our freedom. So I’ll leave you with her invitation. Get curious about the blind spots that might be quietly keeping you from your best life. Then go live it. Connect with Junie Moon: Junie is a best-selling author (Loving the Whole Package), creator of the award-winning film Shed the Shame, and host of the Midlife Love Out Loud podcast. You can find her work, her podcast, and her free quiz to see how ready you are for love at midlifeloveoutloud.com [https://midlifeloveoutloud.com] and on Instagram and Facebook at @midlifeloveoutloud. Before you go: This episode was brought to you by the HURRT Assessment — a free tool I created to help you uncover the hidden patterns that might be holding you back. Take it at flipyourmindset.com/hurrt [https://flipyourmindset.com/hurrt]. If this one spoke to you, share it with someone who needs it, and hit subscribe. The more of us who tune in, the further this work travels. See you on the flip side. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe [https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Ep 186: Why Anxiety Starts Before We Have Words (Most Don't Realize This) | Nervous System Regulation

For a really, really long time, I thought anxiety meant something was wrong with me. I thought I was broken, that I had generalized anxiety disorder, and that I was too sensitive, emotional, or tightly wound. But looking back now through a nervous system lens, I see something very differently. I see adaptation, overwhelm, and protective layers. To understand this, I want to share a story about a very specific day, January 14, 1984. I had just turned 12 years old, and the next morning, my mom was getting remarried. In isolation, that moment doesn’t seem especially significant. However, that night was the accumulation of months of dysregulation. Why Anxiety Starts Before We Have the Words For a really, really long time, I thought anxiety meant something was wrong with me. I thought I was broken, that I had generalized anxiety disorder, and that I was too sensitive, emotional, or tightly wound. But looking back now through a nervous system lens, I see something very differently. I see adaptation, overwhelm, and protective layers. To understand this, I want to share a story about a very specific day, January 14, 1984. I had just turned 12 years old, and the next morning, my mom was getting remarried. In isolation, that moment doesn’t seem especially significant. However, that night was the accumulation of months of dysregulation. In the five months prior, my parents both divorced, my father remarried, we put my childhood dog to sleep, we moved to a completely different town, and I started a new school. I lost my friends, my routines, and my sense of groundedness and predictability. A holiday came and went, my great-grandmother passed away, and now suddenly, my mom was getting remarried too. The Body Learns First Laying in my bedroom that night, everything felt unfamiliar and deeply unsettling. It wasn’t dramatic or hysterical, but rather an internal, unsteady feeling, as if the ground underneath me emotionally had shifted. At 12 years old, I did not have language for any of this. Nobody was talking about nervous systems, emotional overwhelm, or panic in 1984. What appeared was a constancy of rumbling in my entire body, a constant vibration that went from my gut to my throat. Children do not need intentional harm in order for overwhelm to occur. A child can become overwhelmed simply because there is too much change, unpredictability, or emotional movement without enough support and safety. Anxiety rarely comes out of nowhere. More often, a nervous system quietly crosses a threshold where too much has happened too quickly. The body learns long before the mind has language for it. Because children are meaning-making machines, they internalize these events and form conclusions like “I’m on my own,” “I need to stay alert,” or “I’m not safe to fully relax”. The Limits of Insight For years, this dysregulation became a constant hum underneath my life. I was in and out of therapy starting around 15 years old, and was eventually diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder in my 30s. Therapy worked and helped me in many ways, but insight alone did not rest my nervous system. I understood the lack of safety intellectually, but my body did not feel safe. I learned a vital lesson: cognition and physiology are not the same thing. You can understand your patterns and still live inside of them. It wasn’t until my 40s, when I began exploring trauma-informed healing, inner child work, reparenting, and nervous system education, that things finally began to click. I stopped asking what was wrong with me, and I started asking what happened inside of me. I began understanding anxiety not as something to be pathologized, but as a level of protection and an adaptation that once served a purpose. The Invisible Backpack This realization led me to a concept I teach called the “invisible backpack”. This backpack is what we all carry unconsciously through life, filled with our experiences, the beliefs we formed, and the strategies we learned to cope and survive. We even inherit fears and emotional wounds from the people who raised us. Because that backpack is invisible, we often mistake what we carry for simply who we are. Many adults minimize experiences that profoundly shaped them because they don’t believe those experiences were “bad enough” by cultural standards. But the nervous system doesn’t measure trauma the way culture does; it measures safety, connection, predictability, and overwhelm. Today, when I look back at 12-year-old me, I don’t see weakness or someone who is broken. I see a young nervous system trying to organize enormous amounts of change without the proper tools to process it. I see adaptation, and I see someone worthy of deep compassion. If you have absorbed compounding moments of instability or unspoken loneliness while life kept moving around you, please hear this clearly. You are not weak because your nervous system adapted to what it lived through. You are not broken because your body learned survival. Healing begins not when we finally defeat anxiety, but when we actually begin to understand it. * Take the Assessment: Are hidden patterns holding you back? Gain clarity on your emotional well-being by taking my free H.U.R.R.T. self-assessment at https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt [https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt] See you on the flip side! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe [https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Ep 185: The Trauma Debate That’s Dividing The Internet

For years, one phrase has shaped the way millions of people understand trauma: “The Body Keeps the Score.” It became more than the title of a bestselling book.It became a framework. A movement. A language people used to finally explain why anxiety, hypervigilance, burnout, chronic stress, emotional overwhelm, and even physical symptoms felt so deeply connected. But recently, a neuroscience paper started making waves online with a headline that stopped many people in their tracks: “The body does not keep the score.” And instantly, the internet did what the internet always does. People picked sides. Some celebrated it as the “debunking” of trauma science. Others felt angry, defensive, invalidated, or even retraumatized by the conversation itself. But I think something deeper is happening here. I think we’re watching what happens when nuanced conversations collide with social media culture. Because healing was never meant to become a slogan. The Problem With Internet Healing Culture Somewhere along the way, many trauma conversations online became increasingly black and white. Metaphors started being treated as literal biology. Phrases designed to help people emotionally understand their experiences slowly transformed into scientific “facts” repeated without context. And when science pushes back against oversimplification, people often hear: “Your lived experience isn’t real.” But that’s not what this conversation is actually about. The authors behind this neuroscience paper are not saying trauma isn’t real. They are not saying the nervous system isn’t impacted. And they are definitely not saying:“Just think differently.” What they are challenging is the literal interpretation that trauma is physically “stored” inside muscles, fascia, or tissue like files sitting in a storage unit waiting to be released. And honestly? That distinction matters. Your Body Still Responds To Trauma Even if trauma is not literally stored in the body the way social media sometimes describes it, our bodies absolutely respond to prolonged stress and emotional survival patterns. The nervous system learns. The brain predicts. The body adapts. Over time, the body can become conditioned toward tension, hypervigilance, inflammation, disrupted sleep, anxiety, shallow breathing, muscle tightness, emotional reactivity, and chronic stress responses. That is real. And for many people, deeply personal. As someone who has personally experienced years of chronic stress, survival mode, unresolved emotional wounds, and anxiety, this conversation hits close to home for me. Over time, I developed autoimmune conditions including: * Raynaud syndrome * endometriosis * and more recently, seronegative rheumatoid arthritis Now, to be clear:I am not saying trauma directly caused these conditions. Human biology is far too complex for simplistic cause-and-effect narratives. But we do know chronic stress impacts: * inflammation * cortisol * immune function * hormones * sleep * nervous system regulation * and even gene expression through epigenetics And I know from lived experience that when my body is under prolonged stress, my symptoms flare. Every time. Healing Is More Nuanced Than Social Media This is why I think this conversation matters so much. Not because one side is “right” and the other side is “wrong.” But because healing deserves more nuance than the internet usually allows. We are not “team brain” versus “team body.” Human beings are embodied nervous systems shaped through lived experience. The body may not be a literal storage locker for trauma…but it is absolutely part of the adaptation. Part of the learning. Part of the survival response. Part of the feedback loop. And maybe that’s where the real conversation begins. The Bigger Issue Nobody Is Talking About What concerns me most is not the neuroscience paper itself. It’s how quickly online conversations become polarized. A metaphor becomes treated as concrete science. Science reacts aggressively to correct the metaphor. Then people feel invalidated all over again. And suddenly the original purpose of healing conversations gets lost entirely. Because healing is not supposed to become dogma. It’s supposed to deepen understanding. So What Do We Do With This Conversation? We stay curious. We allow complexity. We stop reducing healing into viral slogans and oversimplified soundbites. And maybe most importantly:we stop forcing human experiences into black-and-white narratives. Because the goal is not to “win” the debate. The goal is deeper understanding. And perhaps that’s the part social media struggles with most. If this conversation resonates with you, I’d genuinely love to hear your thoughts. Do you think social media has oversimplified trauma conversations? Or do you think science sometimes overlooks lived experience? Let’s talk about it in the comments. And if someone you know needs this conversation right now, share this post with them. Because as I always say: We cannot heal what we do not understand. * Take the Assessment: Are hidden patterns holding you back? Gain clarity on your emotional well-being by taking my free H.U.R.R.T. self-assessment at https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt [https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt] See you on the flip side! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe [https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Ep 184: Why Calm Feels Dangerous: Understanding Your Child's Nervous System

Welcome back to the Flip Your Mindset Substack. We are thrilled to bring you another insightful conversation. Today, Dr. Bethany Bilodeau is back with us. While our previous episode explored childhood diagnoses like ADHD and ODD , today we are focusing strictly on the challenging behaviors you are dealing with inside your home. About the Guest: Dr. Bethany Bilodeau Dr. Bethany Bilodeau is a leading behavior specialist and the author of Ease the Pain in the Classroom. She specializes in identifying the root causes of severe behavioral challenges for individuals from ages 3 to 22. Her work shifts the paradigm away from strict compliance and moves toward creating deep emotional connection and safety. When Picking a Fight is Actually a Cry for Regulation It is incredibly easy to view a confrontational child as acting out maliciously. However, starting conflicts can actually be a way for a child’s scattered nervous system to regulate itself. When a child picks a fight, the conflict activates and engages their brain. It forces them to focus on a single point, allowing them to momentarily think and problem-solve. Often, children have no idea they are intentionally causing conflict. They are seeking the intense emotional feedback that an argument provides. To navigate this, caretakers must prioritize connection over correction. Here are a few ways to implement this strategy: * Do not take the bait when a child attempts to pull you into an argument. * Instead of repeatedly asking them to stop the behavior, offer an unexpected hug to distract and divert their attention. * Provide generous positive feedback during the moments when they are not instigating conflict. * Acknowledge their restraint when they successfully navigate a situation without starting a fight, even if the peaceful moment only lasted a few seconds. The Hidden Threat of Calm Many parents are baffled when their home finally reaches a calm state, only for a child to immediately create a new crisis. This cycle is not a coincidence. The body releases stress hormones, such as cortisol and norepinephrine, which help keep the brain aroused and focused. Over time, individuals can become addicted to these stress hormones. For a child or adult whose nervous system is conditioned for hypervigilance, sudden calmness can feel foreign, disarming, and even threatening. They subconsciously trigger chaos as a protective mechanism because it feels familiar and safe. Teaching your child to sit comfortably in stillness is a critical skill. Productivity: Discipline or Trauma Response? We are a culture that frequently praises a fully packed schedule. We reward students who pile on extracurricular activities and push themselves to the limit. Yet, constantly needing to be busy can actually serve as a nervous system strategy to avoid discomfort. Here are ways to assess and support your busy child: * Ask your child if their activities are actually fun, or if they are participating purely to seek external validation. * Discuss the concept of physical and mental recovery, emphasizing that the body requires downtime to rebuild. * Pay attention to whether a loved activity has turned into a dreaded chore, which often happens when the focus shifts entirely to competition instead of play. Rethinking Laziness and Lethargy On the opposite end of the spectrum, a child who appears apathetic, withdrawn, or lethargic is quickly labeled as lazy. This hypoaroused state is often just another form of dysregulation. Behaviors like procrastination and lethargy are frequently the nervous system’s way of conserving energy. Furthermore, what looks like a lack of motivation might actually stem from biological factors: * Difficulty accessing certain areas of the brain due to different types of attention challenges. * Underlying physical needs, such as a lack of proper hydration, poor diet, or insufficient sleep. Moving Forward Parenting happens in the deepest depths of the trenches, and it is exhausting work. By replacing harsh criticism with empathy and connection, we can propel our children toward greatness. By utilizing a comprehensive approach to emotional and physical well-being, we can better support the kids who need it most. Links and Resources * Get the Book: Ease the Pain in the Classroom: A Guide to Safety and Regulation by Dr. Bethany Bilodeau is available through The Behavior Bootcamp. * Website: Visit The Behavior Bootcamp [https://www.thebehaviorbootcamp.com/] to learn more about her programs and strategies. * Take the Assessment: Are hidden patterns holding you back? Gain clarity on your emotional well-being by taking my free H.U.R.R.T. self-assessment at https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt [https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt] See you on the flip side! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe [https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Ep 183: The Primal Wound: Healing Hidden Trauma Through Neurofeedback With Dolly Regier

What if you could train your brain to find calm after living in a constant state of high alert? This week on the podcast, I sat down with Dolly Regier, [https://www.balancedbrainsandbodies.com/] an expert in neurofeedback and the founder of Balanced Brains + Bodies. Dolly brings a wealth of knowledge with her Master of Education in Neuroscience and Trauma, but she also brings her deeply personal experience as both an adoptee and an adoptive mother. We discussed the complex layers of developmental trauma and how emerging technologies are offering new paths to healing. Here are my biggest takeaways from our conversation. The Primal Wound and Implicit Memory We often think of trauma as a specific, terrible event. However, as Dolly and I discussed, trauma is actually what happens inside the body as a result of an event. For adoptees, this often begins with what is known as the primal wound. When a baby is separated from its biological mother, there is an immediate loss of connection. These are pre-verbal, implicit memories stored deep within the nervous system. The body remembers this lack of safety, keeping the nervous system in a chronic state of fight or flight. For Dolly, this hypervigilance showed up as overachievement and people-pleasing: coping mechanisms she used to secure connection and safety. The Limits of Talk Therapy When we experience trauma, our standard response is to seek talk therapy. But what happens when talking about the trauma actually re-triggers the nervous system? Talk therapy relies heavily on the prefrontal cortex, which is the logical, decision-making part of the brain. Trauma, however, lives in the amygdala, the brain’s survival center. The amygdala does not process language; it processes instinct and safety. This is why traditional therapy can sometimes feel like you are spinning your wheels while your body remains in a state of panic. What is Neurofeedback? This is where neurofeedback comes in. Dolly described it beautifully: it is like holding a mirror up to the brain. During a session, sensors are placed on the scalp to monitor cortical activity. As you listen to a soundtrack, the software detects turbulence or dysregulation in your brainwaves and creates tiny pauses in the audio. These pauses alert the brain to its own dysregulation. Think of it like defragging a computer hard drive. The brain recognizes the disorganized information, intuitively self-corrects, and brings itself back to a state of calm and present-moment regulation. It is entirely passive. You do not have to relive painful memories or even speak a word. Parenting Trauma: Why Love Is Not Always Enough One of the most profound parts of our conversation centered on parenting children with trauma histories. The old advice of “just love them and they will be fine” falls incredibly short. When an adopted child exhibits challenging behaviors, they are rarely acting out of malice. These behaviors are survival adaptations. The child is trying to take control in a world that fundamentally feels unsafe. Traditional parenting methods, or even approaches that worked for biological children, often fail because they do not address the dysregulated nervous system underneath the behavior. Final Thoughts Healing the nervous system is a vital component of emotional wellness, especially within the adoption space. Our brains possess an incredible capacity for change, meaning we do not have to remain stuck in survival mode. Resources for You: * Connect with Dolly Regier: To learn more about at-home neurofeedback training, visit her website at https://www.balancedbrainsandbodies.com/ [https://www.balancedbrainsandbodies.com/] * Take the Assessment: Are hidden patterns holding you back? Gain clarity on your emotional well-being by taking my free H.U.R.R.T. self-assessment at https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt [https://www.flipyourmindset.com/hurrt] See you on the flip side! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe [https://flipyourmindset.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]