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Gen Z Is Ungrounded and Going Back to the Mall - The Generational Pendulum Swings Back to In-Person

15 min · 21. mai 2026
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The most digital generation is going back to the mall. Generational futurist Ryan Vet explains why Gen Z's IRL revival is a leadership signal. Ryan Vet, generational futurist, expert in generations, and AI keynote speaker, unpacks the resurgence of physical retail, the Generational Pendulum, and what Gen Z's return to malls, bookstores, and coffee shops reveals about how this generation was formed. A generation that was tracked, supervised, and over-scheduled is now hunting for the unstructured, in-person moments older generations took for granted. The workplace is next. Key Takeaways * Gen Z's foot traffic at malls is up 57% year-over-year, and 82.2% of Gen Z mall-goers say they are there to socialize, not to shop (Placer.ai, 2026). * The Generational Pendulum is swinging back: 83% of 18-to-24-year-olds say social retail environments improve their sense of connection (Lightspeed, 2026). * Gen X was rarely watched. Gen Z has been over-watched. That difference is formative, not cosmetic. * The mall was practice. It taught budgeting, trade-offs, self-control, and watching peers make bad decisions in real time. A generation that skipped that practice arrives at work without those reps. * Gallup (2025) reports Gen Z is the loneliest generation at work, nearly twice as likely as Gen X to say they experienced loneliness a lot of the previous day. * Leaders cannot replace lived experience with a Slack onboarding checklist. Workplaces need more unstructured time, multi-age interaction, and real apprenticeship. * The recalibration has already started. Gen Alpha (currently 1-13) may be the generation whose parents intentionally design a more analog childhood. Research and Sources Cited * Lightspeed. (2026). Gen Z wants more than products: 83% of 18-24-year-olds say hangout stores boost connection. * Placer.ai. (2026). How malls can win in 2026. * Pew Research Center. (2014). Generation X: America's neglected middle child. * Pew Research Center. (2025). Americans' trust in one another. * Gallup. (2023). Gen Z voices lackluster trust in major U.S. institutions. * Gallup. (2025). State of the global workplace: 2025 report. * Starbucks. (2025). Starbucks coffeehouse designs enter a new era. * City of St. Charles, Illinois. (n.d.). Charlestowne Mall redevelopment. * Business Insider. (2025). Starbucks plans to phase out its mobile-only stores for a future with more warmth and human connection. Connect with Ryan Vet * Read the full essay: Gen Z Is Ungrounded and Going Back to the Mall [https://ryanvet.com/collide/gen-z-is-ungrounded-and-going-back-to-the-mall/] * Subscribe to Collide: www.RyanVet.com/collide [https://www.ryanvet.com/collide] * Website: www.RyanVet.com [https://www.ryanvet.com] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanvet/] * YouTube: @RyanVet [https://www.youtube.com/@RyanVet] * Book Ryan to speak: ryanvet.com/booking [https://www.ryanvet.com/booking] About Ryan Vet Ryan Vet is a generational futurist, USA TODAY bestselling author, international keynote speaker, and host of The Ryan Vet Show. As an expert in generations and an AI keynote speaker, he helps leaders, parents, and organizations make sense of how Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and Gen Beta are reshaping work, family, and culture. Collide is his weekly research-backed newsletter on generational leadership, read by 21,000+ leaders. #GenerationalFuturist #GenZ #GenX #GenAlpha #Loneliness #ThirdPlaces #Mentorship #Leadership #ExpertInGenerations #RyanVet #CollidePodcast #AIKeynoteSpeaker #FutureOfWork Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

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Why Wozniak Got Cheered and Schmidt Got Booed - What Commencement Boos Reveal About AI, Gen Z, and the Velocity Gap

The Class of 2026 didn't boo the future. They booed being told the future had already been decided for them. The strangest commencement season in memory, and the leadership lesson hiding inside it. Generational futurist, USA Today bestselling author, and keynote speaker Ryan Vet unpacks the commencement booing wave of 2026. A few weeks after he joked that every graduation speaker would inevitably mention AI, the prediction came true. What he did not predict was the reaction from the seats. Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt was booed at the University of Arizona for comparing AI to past technological revolutions. Gloria Caulfield was booed at the University of Central Florida for calling AI "the next industrial revolution," then cheered the moment she changed her framing. Scott Borchetta, the man who signed Taylor Swift, got double booed at Middle Tennessee State for telling graduates to "deal with it." An AI name reader at Glendale Community College mangled graduates' names and got booed by the crowd itself. And Jonathan Haidt, author of The Anxious Generation and one of the loudest critics of phone-based childhood, was booed at NYU before he said a single word. Then there was the contrast. At Grand Valley State, Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak was cheered when he told graduates "You all have AI. Actual intelligence." Same topic. Opposite response. Ryan uses that split to explain the Velocity Gap: the distance between how fast the technology is moving and how fast the humans absorbing it are being asked to feel okay about it. The Class of 2026 entered college the same semester ChatGPT went mainstream, were told AI was cheating, and now graduate into a world that calls the same tool the key to staying employable. The data backs up the unease: Pew finds 50% of U.S. adults are more concerned than excited about AI versus just 10% more excited, and Gallup finds employed Gen Z says the risks outweigh the benefits by 48% to 15%, with excitement down 14 points in a single year. This episode is about more than graduation. It is a leadership lesson. There is a difference between "AI is coming, deal with it" and "you are entering a changed world, and your humanity still matters." One breaks the ritual. The other earns the room. In this episode: * The commencement booing wave of 2026, speaker by speaker * Why Eric Schmidt, Gloria Caulfield, Scott Borchetta, and an AI name reader all drew boos * Why Jonathan Haidt got booed for the opposite of techno-optimism * The Steve Wozniak contrast: same topic, opposite reaction, better leadership * The Velocity Gap: when technology moves faster than the humans absorbing it * Why AI hit the nerve for a class told AI was cheating, then told it was opportunity * The data behind the unease: Pew, Gallup, and the Class of 2026 job market * A short history of booing, from Stravinsky and Mahler to Wagner inventing the silent audience * Why booing at commencement feels different: it breaks the ritual, not just the speech * What leaders should actually take from this, in any room, not just a stadium Referenced in this episode: * Pew Research Center, views of artificial intelligence (2025) * Gallup, Gen Z's AI adoption steady, but skepticism climbs (2026) * National Association of Colleges and Employers, Job Outlook 2026 Spring Update * NBC News (2026), Eric Schmidt at the University of Arizona * Orlando Weekly (2026), Gloria Caulfield at the University of Central Florida * Futurism (2026), Scott Borchetta at Middle Tennessee State; Steve Wozniak at Grand Valley State * Washington Square News (2026), Jonathan Haidt at NYU * Business Insider (2026), AI name reader at Glendale Community College * COLLIDE Newsletter by Ryan Vet: ryanvet.com/collide * Full essay version of this episode: https://collide.ryanvet.com/p/why-wozniak-got-cheered-and-schmidt-got-booed Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. New COLLIDE essay episodes release every Thursday at 7am ET. Guest era episodes release Monday mornings at 6am ET. Join the COLLIDE newsletter at ryanvet.com/collide for the research, reflections, and frameworks behind every episode. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

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Kevin Stinehart: Rebuilding Recess and Why Play Is a Developmental Need, Not a Want

We engineered the friction out of childhood, then acted surprised when kids could not handle it. Kevin Stinehart, the third grade teacher and play advocate featured in chapter 11 of Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation, joins The Ryan Vet Show to make the case that play is not a want. It is a developmental need. Kevin Stinehart teaches third grade at Central Academy of the Arts in Pickens County, South Carolina. He is a District Teacher of the Year, a South Carolina State Teacher of the Year candidate, and a Golden Apple Award winner. He also founded his school's Let Grow Play Club, a before and after school program with no budget and no curriculum. He opens the playground and lets kids play. In this conversation with host Ryan Vet, Kevin walks through what happens when you give children back unstructured time, and why the results are anything but soft. The data is the part that stops people. Inside the Play Club, physical incidents dropped from about 65 in one year to 32 the next, cut by more than half. The school hit 100 percent parent approval on its report card, a number that almost never happens in public education. And Kevin reframes the behavior conversation entirely. A lot of what gets labeled a discipline problem, he argues, is really a design problem. The third grader who cannot sit still after an hour of math is not misbehaving. He is doing what a developing brain is wired to do inside a system that was never built around healthy child development. Ryan connects this directly to his Loss of Friction thesis. Every scraped knee, every argument with a friend, every game where the rules break down is a rep. That is where kids build the capacity to adapt. Remove the friction and you remove the practice. Kevin's fix is not expensive, it is a mindset shift: stop being the cruise director, start being the park ranger. As he puts it, he is not there to control the wildlife, he is there to cultivate what is already growing. The conversation closes on why this matters more now, not less. AI will do the fast, factual work faster than any human brain. The capacities built through play, creativity, adaptability, and self direction, are exactly the things that get more valuable from here. Play was never frivolous. It is how kids become capable. In this episode: * Why protection can quietly turn into overprotection, and how to tell the difference * The Let Grow Play Club model: no budget, no curriculum, just unstructured play before and after school * The data behind the club: physical incidents cut from about 65 to 32 in a single year, and 100 percent parent approval on the school report card * Why a lot of behavior issues are not behavior issues at all, but a consequence of school systems not designed around healthy child development * Finland's 45-15 model: 45 minutes of instruction, 15 minutes of recess, all day long * The American Academy of Pediatrics recommendation of 60 minutes of play a day * The park ranger versus cruise director mindset for parents and teachers * How friction in play builds the capacities kids cannot learn any other way * Why play and the skills it builds, creativity and adaptability, become more important in the age of AI, not less * What it means to treat play as a fundamental need rather than a reward to be earned Referenced in this episode: * The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt (Kevin is featured in chapter 11) * Let Grow: letgrow.org [https://letgrow.org] * Central Academy of the Arts, Pickens County, South Carolina * Finland's 45-15 recess model * American Academy of Pediatrics: 60 minutes of play a day Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com [https://ryanvet.com] * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide [https://ryanvet.com/collide] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet [https://linkedin.com/in/ryanvet] * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet [https://instagram.com/ryancvet] * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker [https://ryanvet.com/generational-speaker] Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. The guest era continues every Monday at 6am ET. Next week: Lenore Skenazy, founder of Free Range Kids and president of Let Grow, on why we stopped trusting kids with independence and how to give it back. The COLLIDE essay podcast continues every Thursday at 7am ET. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

15. juni 202638 min
episode The Mothers Who Kept the Window Open: What We Lost When We Took Away the Village cover

The Mothers Who Kept the Window Open: What We Lost When We Took Away the Village

The hardest part of modern motherhood isn't the work. It's that we now do it alone. The work was always going to be hard. The village was the part we could have kept. Generational futurist, USA Today bestselling author, and keynote speaker Ryan Vet starts at a high school production of Peter Pan, with the image of a mother lying on a windowsill, waiting fifty years for her son to come home. That ache is old. The conditions around it are not. In this episode, Ryan traces what happened to motherhood across the last half-century and makes a quiet, data-backed case: mothering has always been hard, but a century of trying to make it easier has, in many ways, made it lonelier. For most of human history, mothers did not raise children alone. The work was distributed across siblings, aunts, grandparents, and neighbors, with a baby passed from one set of arms to the next. Ryan walks through what replaced that village: a child daycare industry now worth roughly $74.7 billion a year, early-care enrollment for three- and four-year-olds climbing from 9.5% in 1964 to 52.4% by 2011, and a $1.7 billion universal childcare plan announced in New York in 2026. When the family, church, and community leave the room, somebody has to fill the chair. Increasingly, that somebody is paid, scheduled, and unrelated to the family. Then he takes on the cost of being alone. A 2024 Ohio State University survey found 66% of parents say parenthood sometimes or frequently feels isolating and lonely, and 38% report no support at all. Postpartum depression diagnoses nearly doubled between 2010 and 2021, from 9.4% to 19.0%. The first mothers carrying both loneliness and PPD at scale are also the first cohort who came of age inside social media. And Ryan applies the Friction Doctrine to mothering: every tool we built to remove the difficulty, from fertility apps to delivery services to overnight monitors and milestone trackers, carried a quiet weight in return. We now have more information about our babies than any generation in history, and we have often mistaken that information for wisdom. In this episode: * The Peter Pan windowsill image that reframes love, loss, and hope in motherhood * Why mothering has always been hard, and why a century of making it "easier" made it lonelier * What we lost when we traded the village for institutions, apps, and convenience * The loneliness epidemic among parents, and why mothers report it most acutely * The doubling of postpartum depression, and the first generation of mothers raised on social media * The Friction Doctrine, Mother's Edition: how every labor-saving tool carried a hidden cost * Why we now have more data about our children than ever, and have mistaken data for wisdom * Motherhood happening later and less often, and the question hidden inside the fertility decline * Wendy, the Lost Boys, and why children look for mothers even when they pretend not to need one * What it actually looks like to become part of someone else's village Referenced in this episode: * Hunt, Gather, Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff (2021) * The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, National Survey on the Loneliness Epidemic Among Parents (Gawlik et al., 2024) * Trends in Postpartum Depression, JAMA Network Open (Bruno et al., 2024) * Pew Research Center, survey on U.S. adults who don't have children (2024) * CDC/NCHS, Births: Final Data for 2023 (2025) * COLLIDE Newsletter by Ryan Vet: ryanvet.com/collide * Full essay version of this episode: https://collide.ryanvet.com/p/the-mothers-who-kept-the-window-open Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. New COLLIDE essay episodes release every Thursday at 7am ET. Guest era episodes release Monday mornings at 6am ET. Join the COLLIDE newsletter at ryanvet.com/collide for the research, reflections, and frameworks behind every episode. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

11. juni 202611 min
episode Mike Schneider of Acre Homes: The Generational Housing Question, the Broken Affordability Math, and Shared Ownership cover

Mike Schneider of Acre Homes: The Generational Housing Question, the Broken Affordability Math, and Shared Ownership

The affordability math from the 1970s, 80s, and 90s is broken. Mike Schneider, founder of Acre Homes and longtime real estate operator, joins The Ryan Vet Show to walk through what actually happened to home ownership in America, and what comes next. Mike Schneider has spent the last decade and a half rebuilding the math of home ownership. He co-founded First in 2012, using machine learning and AI to predict who would sell their home, and sold that company. He is now the founder of Acre Homes, a shared appreciation model that lets people own without taking on a $670,000 mortgage. In this conversation with host Ryan Vet, two Durham millennials walk through how home ownership got this expensive, why blaming Wall Street is missing the real story, and what a generation of would-be buyers actually needs. The episode opens with the conversation that started this episode: Ryan spotted Mike walking down a Durham street wearing wired headphones. Two millennials, both Durham-based, both quietly recalibrating away from the trendy and back to the durable. That instinct, going analog, is showing up in housing too. Mike unpacks the three primary drivers of the affordability crisis (broken income-to-price math, delayed household formation, the disappearing starter home), the data on which generations are actually buying houses (Gen Z is outpacing millennials at age 28), and why the 50 or 60 year mortgage is a political move that does not solve the underlying problem. Then Mike walks through the shared ownership model. In the United Kingdom, Zillow's equivalent lets you filter for sale, for rent, or shared ownership. In the United States, that third option does not exist. Acre Homes is building it. Five percent down for fifty percent of the appreciation. No transaction costs on the front end. Lower total cost of ownership through what Mike calls the "Costco effect" of bundling debt, insurance, and operations across thousands of homes. Mike explains why two-thirds of Acre's customers are not first-time buyers (as expected) but previous homeowners who have lived the pain of buying and selling under the current model. The conversation closes on the data Mike thinks gets buried under the doom headlines. American home ownership is at 65 to 66 percent, higher than the 1980s. Eighty-three percent of Americans still prefer to own rather than rent (Lending Tree, October 2024). The country is between 1.5 and 5 million homes short on inventory. The American Dream is not dead. The math just needs new models. In this episode: * Why the housing affordability math from the 1970s, 80s, and 90s is broken (the income-to-price multiple has gone from 2x to 6x or higher) * The three primary drivers of the modern affordability crisis: broken math, delayed household formation, the disappearing starter home * Why Gen Z at age 28 is outpacing millennials in home ownership (38 percent vs 36.8 percent), and what that says about the great financial crisis effect * Why blaming Wall Street is missing the real story (institutional investors bought less than 1.6 percent of homes) * Why the 40, 50, and 60 year mortgage proposals are political moves, not solutions * How shared ownership works in the UK and why the United States is behind on the model * The Acre Homes model: 5 percent down, 50 percent of appreciation, no transaction costs on the front, lower total cost of ownership * Why two-thirds of Acre's customers are previous homeowners, not first-time buyers * The transaction costs nobody talks about: why you walk across the threshold of your new $500,000 home already underwater until it appreciates 6 to 8 percent * The starter home problem: why we have built bigger homes and where the entry point disappeared * The data buried under the doom headlines: 65 to 66 percent home ownership rate, 83 percent of Americans prefer to own (Lending Tree, October 2024) Referenced in this episode: * Acre Homes: acrehomes.com [https://www.acrehomes.com] * Aziz Sundirji, economist focused on housing and household formation * Charlie Munger's line: "The renter never washes the rental car" * David Ogilvy on marketing: "Comfort the afflicted or afflict the comfortable" * Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson * Lending Tree study, October 2024: 83 percent of Americans prefer to own over rent Connect with Mike Schneider: * Acre Homes: acrehomes.com [https://www.acrehomes.com] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mikeschneider3 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeschneider3] Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com [https://ryanvet.com] * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide [https://ryanvet.com/collide] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet [https://linkedin.com/in/ryanvet] * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet [https://instagram.com/ryancvet] * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker [https://ryanvet.com/generational-speaker] Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. The guest era continues every Monday at 6am ET. Next week: Kevin Stinehart, the elementary school teacher and play advocate featured in chapter 11 of Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation, on rebuilding play and recess inside the modern school system. The COLLIDE essay podcast continues every Thursday at 7am ET. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

8. juni 202632 min
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Michaeleen Doucleff: Hunt, Gather, Parent, Dopamine Kids, and What Modern Parenting Gets Wrong

What if everything we know about modern parenting is wrong? NPR global health correspondent and bestselling author Michaeleen Doucleff joins The Ryan Vet Show for the first guest episode of year two, on Hunt, Gather, Parent, Dopamine Kids, and what parents actually have power to change. Michaeleen Doucleff spent nearly 12 years as a global health correspondent at NPR, covering infectious disease outbreaks from Liberia during the Ebola crisis to rural villages on every continent. Then she became a mom, and realized something that would change her life and her work: the parents she met in Maya villages in the Yucatan, with Inuit families in the Arctic, and in Tanzania weren’t struggling the way she was. They were calm, their kids were helpful, and the whole model of family life looked different. That observation became Hunt, Gather, Parent, a New York Times bestseller that has sold more than a million copies in over thirty languages. Her follow-up, Dopamine Kids, takes on the science of screens, ultra-processed foods, and what they’re actually doing to children. In this conversation with host Ryan Vet, Michaeleen walks through what cross-cultural parenting research reveals about cooperation, conflict, and what kids actually need from the adults in their lives. She challenges the seventy-year-old myth that dopamine is the pleasure center of the brain (it’s not, it’s the wanting and craving system), and explains why that distinction matters for every parent dealing with screens, apps, or kids who can’t seem to put the iPad down. She talks about the ultra-processed food environment that nobody chose but everybody is living in, the Harvard research on why these foods are designed for overconsumption, and the practical sanctuaries parents can build at home to take their power back. Ryan and Michaeleen also discuss the loneliness of modern parenthood, the mental health crisis among kids, and why so much of what passes for parenting advice today is based on twenty-five-year-old research that hasn’t kept up with the science. The conversation closes with Michaeleen’s hope for Gen Alpha and Gen Z, and the early signs that a generation is starting to recognize what’s been lost. In this episode: * How Michaeleen went from PhD chemist to NPR global health correspondent to bestselling parenting author * What the Maya, Inuit, and Tanzanian parents she lived with taught her that California couldn’t * Why “your kids are being born into their world, you’re not being born into theirs” is the most important parenting reframe * The cooperation model: including kids in adult work instead of orbiting your life around theirs * Why dopamine is not the brain’s pleasure system, and why that distinction matters for every parent * How ultra-processed foods, apps, and devices are designed to crank dopamine while killing pleasure * The five practical tools from Dopamine Kids for weaning kids off screens without leaving them empty handed * Why food cues, not hunger, drive most eating, and how parents can use that science in their favor * The case for sanctuaries: protected spaces and times in the home where devices don’t enter * Michaeleen’s hope for Gen Alpha and Gen Z, and what the early data is showing Referenced in this episode: * Hunt, Gather, Parent: What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Raising Happy, Helpful Little Humans by Michaeleen Doucleff * Dopamine Kids by Michaeleen Doucleff * Harvard research on ultra-processed foods and appetite regulation * Ryan Vet’s COLLIDE essay on the loneliness of parenthood: ryanvet.com/collide [https://ryanvet.com/collide] Connect with Michaeleen Doucleff: * Website (she is intentionally not on social media): michaeleendoucleff.com [https://michaeleendoucleff.com] Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com [https://ryanvet.com] * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide [https://ryanvet.com/collide] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet [https://linkedin.com/in/ryanvet] * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet [https://instagram.com/ryancvet] * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker [https://ryanvet.com/generational-speaker] Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. The guest era continues every Monday at 6am ET. Next week: Mike Schneider on the generational housing question and why some millennials are going back to wired headphones, home phones, and analog life. The COLLIDE essay podcast continues every Thursday at 7am ET. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

1. juni 202630 min