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Agree to Disagree About Gender

Podcast by Laura T and Yvette N

English

Health & personal development

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About Agree to Disagree About Gender

Laura is an integrated trans woman. Yvette is gender critical. They disagree on a lot when it comes to sex and gender, but agree it's better to talk about their differences and try to understand each other's perspective, rather than to assume the worst about each other. Every week, they will have an open and civil discussion about current events pertaining to sex, gender and trans issues, and will have a civil and respectful discussion about contentious areas of disagreement

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23 episodes

episode Episode 23 - Sasha Ayad - Avoiding Estrangement From Your Trans Child artwork

Episode 23 - Sasha Ayad - Avoiding Estrangement From Your Trans Child

Sasha Ayad is a license therapist who provides counselling to families where a child is transitioning or is experiencing gender distress. Her focus is on how parents can continue to be part of their child's life and avoid estrangement and promote reconcilement, even when they are not supportive of medical transition She joins Yvette and Laura on Agree to Disagree About Gender to have a heartfelt discussion on these issues Sasha became interested in the sharp rise in teenagers who declare they are trans for the first time during adolescence. She questions the practice of medical transition for minors, and her clinical work focuses on developmentally appropriate, least-invasive-first talk therapy. Seeing a great need to help parents, Sasha began running parent groups in 2019 both online and through in-person retreats. She is the co-author of the book When Kids Say They’re Trans, and writes regularly on Substack. She recently launched a new project called The Metaphor of Gender: on this YouTube Channel, identity goes beyond the literal. She uses radical curiosity and surprising insights to help adolescents and young adults better understand themselves and skillfully navigate the real world.

12 Jun 2026 - 1 h 30 min
episode Episode 21 - Jonni Skinner - Controversy and Compassion About Detransition Part 1 artwork

Episode 21 - Jonni Skinner - Controversy and Compassion About Detransition Part 1

Jonni Skinner is a young man who spent 8 years of his adolescence and young adulthood living as a girl and young woman, before deciding to reclaim his identity as an effeminate gay man. He details how he came to believe that transition would be a better fit for his personality, his struggles with medicalization as a young person, and how he intends to face his future in his birth sex. Yvette and Laura touch upon why he tried to "trans away the gay", if he is now trying to "gay away the trans", and his advocacy for banning access to the type of care he beleives has left him permanently damaged.. We also discuss the intersection between identity and embodiment, what he envisions his life will be like going forward, and why he still has affection for the trans community. This is the first of 2 episodes, -please stay tuned for Part 2 next week

30 May 2026 - 1 h 7 min
episode Episode 20 - Jamie Paul - How The Trans Rights Movement Lost its Way artwork

Episode 20 - Jamie Paul - How The Trans Rights Movement Lost its Way

Jamie Paul is a writer based in Greater Philadelphia, founder of American Dreaming, managing editor at Queer Majority, and contributing editor at Bi.org [http://Bi.org]. His work has appeared in outlets including Quillette, Persuasion, Areo Magazine, and Gazeta do Povo. His recent focus has been on documenting what he perceives as the excesses of "wokism", and on how these excesses have undermined the status and well-being of the populations who they were ostensibly advocating for. These can be found on his series "The Memory Hole Archives"" In his thesis, trans advocacy was no exception; trans activists once in control of influence within academia, government, the civil service, and in left-leaning society promoted a set of policies without the broader consent of the public leading to a backlash that threatens the ability of trans people to access the accommodations and concessions that once allowed many of them to flourish. Jamie joins Yvette and Laura to discuss his thesis in more detail, not out of hatred or contempt for trans people, but to act as the blue print on how trans advocacy can move forward in a more measured and pragmatic fashion

24 May 2026 - 1 h 10 min
episode Episode 19 - Dr Kinnon MacKinnon - The Many Faces of Detransition artwork

Episode 19 - Dr Kinnon MacKinnon - The Many Faces of Detransition

Dr. Kinnon MacKinnon is an Assistant Professor of Social Work at York University in Toronto, and is one of the world's leading researchers on the phenomenon of decisional regret around gender transition, desistance from trans identification and detransition from medicalization . Dr MacKinnon''s research seeks to better characterize and understand the different factors that lead to regret and detransition, and how this is influences by the changing nature of identity and the stigma associated with being transgender. His work is especially crucial, given how concerns about the rising rates of regret and detransition have provided a compelling rationale for restricting access to medical transition, especially for adults and other vulnerable adults. In this episode, we discuss the history of detransition, the reasons why it might be increasing, and how we can be providing better care and support of people who have detransitioned, or who may be considering not following through with an ongoing transition. Dr. MacKinnon also discusses his concerns about the encroachment of politics into medial care, and on how this may not best serve the needs of people exploring their gender identity

18 May 2026 - 1 h 25 min
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