How to Build a Business You Never Want to Escape From | Esther Jacobs | Amsterdam Founders Club
Esther Jacobs, known as the No Excuses Lady, writing 30 books, speaking in 70 countries, raising €16 million for charity and building a globally recognized personal brand, celebrated her 55th birthday with a one-off theater show in Amsterdam. The occasion? Her retirement.
But as Marcel quickly finds out in this conversation, "retirement" for Esther means something most founders have never considered: stop doing what drains you, keep doing what you love, and trust the money follows.
Esther didn't burn out and quit. She made a deliberate decision to flip the ratio, from a life of doing with islands of being, to a life of being with the occasional bit of doing. The theater show was her way of drawing a line in the sand and making it public, so she'd have to follow through.
In this episode, Marcel sits down with Esther to explore what retirement actually means for a founder, and whether most of us are building toward a finish line that doesn't have to be that far away.
What you'll learn:
- What the theater show was really about and why going public made her more money
- Why "retirement" for a founder doesn't mean stopping, it means redesigning
- How to build a business around what you love and quietly cut the rest
- Why growth for its own sake is a trap, and what to optimize for instead
- How Esther raised €16 million for charity with zero experience in the sector
- Why your personal brand and your network are retirement assets and how to build them
- The doing vs. being shift: how two car accidents and what changed everything
Timestamps
00:00 One tip for founders who want to retire on their own terms
00:33 Introducing Esther Jacobs, the No Excuses Lady
01:19 How Esther approaches business: start small, test fast, roll with it
02:01 Organizing a cruise from Spain to Brazil from a Facebook ad
03:01 Skip the business plan why she tests before planning
04:13 The theater show: how she sold tickets before the venue was booked
05:33 Growing up between scarcity and abundance
06:52 Her family background: a grocery store and two very different mindsets
08:34 After her BBA: why she didn't follow the traditional path
09:51 Becoming extremely good at a few things and what that costs you
11:12 Learning vulnerability after years of high performance
12:09 The second car accident: a whiplash that changed everything
13:54 Reclaiming her time, and a major mindset shift
15:49 What retirement actually means for a founder
16:40 Why she stopped chasing growth and started designing her life
17:49 How she decided what to stop doing and what to keep
18:54 Did she have a financial goal before retiring? (The answer is no)
19:30 Why announcing it publicly made her more money, not less
20:30 What founders can learn from her decision
21:10 Don't make growth your main goal unless it truly energizes you
22:23 The world changes, retire while you can still enjoy it
23:13 How she invested for retirement: real estate and personal brand
25:18 35 years of visibility as a retirement asset
26:15 Your personal brand as goodwill how it pays you back over time
27:25 High-ticket work she actually loves: VIP days
28:35 How to build a personal brand that attracts the right people
29:23 Ikigai: the intersection of love, need, and willingness to pay
29:52 How she uses AI without losing her authentic voice
30:31 How Esther raised €16 million for charity with zero experience
31:46 The insight that unlocked it: give people something to give away
33:02 What charities got wrong and what Esther figured out
34:49 Media, Survivor, and why everything you put out lives forever
36:29 Reality TV: what they don't tell you about casting and editing
38:08 Can everyone become a better person?
38:40 Connection is what it's really all about
40:00 How to practically retire as a founder on your own terms
40:47 Create space serendipity needs room to work
41:23 Bundle your work, protect your energy
41:53 On money: why she doesn't track income or spending
43:13 Final message: imagine your own funeral
Connect with Esther Jacobs:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherjacobs/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/estherjacobsnl/
Website: https://estherjacobs.info
Connect with Marcel Wijermars:
Superconnectedfounder.com
Amsterdamfoundersclub.com
https://linktr.ee/marcelwijermars
Apply to join Amsterdam Founders Club: https://amsterdamfoundersclub.com/
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The podcast is produced by 301 Studios and Marcus Engel: https://www.instagram.com/themarcusengel/ - studiobooking@weare301.com