
Controversy & Clarity
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*The challenges of getting Weapons Co, 1/8, to HKIA *Weapons’ initial taskings and missions *The challenges of operating North and East Gates *Operating in support of the LAR company at East Gate *Frustrations working with allied and partner forces *Gunnery Sergeant Zachary Kapinus interacting with the Taliban at East Gate *The famous picture of Gunny Kapinus lifting a baby over a barbed-wire wall *The ethical and moral challenges of extricating people from the crowd without creating more chaos *Creative ways to extricate American citizens from the crowd *The desperation of Afghan civilians *Watching Marines kick out civilians who did not have the proper paperwork *The frustration of many Marines toward Afghan men who chose to escape instead of fight *How Jon supported Weapons Company with his presence and by inserting himself wherever he could help *An example of commander’s intent at East Gate *How Jon and his key leaders created an atmosphere of expected behaviors, professionalism, and toughness during pre-deployment training *Command and control at HKIA, including personal cells as the primary way to communicate *Jon’s experiences on the night of 27 August *The ramp ceremony of the 13 KIA servicemembers *The benefit of allowing Marines to use their cell phones *1/8 in Kuwait at HKIA *Coming home to Camp Lejeune *Working with other units and nations’ forces The most frustrating and rewarding aspects of the HKIA experience *Where Jon excelled as a commander and where he could have done better *Lessons learned from HKIA *The one thing Jon wants other servicemembers to know about Weapons Company'S actions at HKIA

In this episode, we discuss the following topics. *Jon’s experiences as a weapons platoon commander with 3/7 in Afghanistan. *His mindset and training approach for Weapons Company for the 24th MEU workup *Building trust as a weapons company commander with the battalion commander and operations officer *Building trust within his company *The company’s operations and training before HKIA *Indications and warnings that Weapons Company would deploy to HKIA *Getting the news that the company would go to HKIA *Jon’s fire support planning for HKIA *His understanding of the situation at HKIA before arriving *His first two days on the ground *Tactical foraging and requisitioning *The fall of Kabul *The breaching of the airport and the clearing of the runway *Being a commander without troops during the clearing *Jon’s reaction to the news that Coalition forces would work with the Taliban

In this episode, we discuss: *The timeline of major events of the Battle for the Irpin *Three occasions where the Russians nearly won the battle *The role of Ukrainian volunteers and civilians *The role of small unit leaders *The artillery fight *The challenges of researching and writing operational military history *James and Ben’s research approach *The lack of government support in the US and UK for on-the-ground conflict research *The value of stories to the military profession *How the battle study can be used for training and educational Links "The Battle of Irpin River" by James Sladden, Liam Collins, and Ben Connable https://chacr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/BAR-187-compressed.pdf "Battle Studies: The Need for Primary Source Research" by Ben Connable and James Sladden https://chacr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/CHACR-Briefing-Ukraine.pdf "On the Ground: Field Research in Ukraine" by James Sladden https://issuu.com/chacr_camberley/docs/idb-ukraine

In this episode, we discuss the following topics. *What a combat engineer platoon does as part of a battalion landing team *What it was like joining BLT 1/8 *Building trust between Everett’s platoon and BLT 1/8 *Everett’s advice to platoon commanders looking to build trust between units *His platoon’s training plan for the 24th MEU workup *Responding to complaints from Marines about a high-tempo schedule *The platoon’s experiences on the 24th MEU prior to heading to HKIA *When the possibility of deploying to HKIA first came on Everett’s radar *His reaction and his Marines’ reactions to learning they would go to HKIA *Being labeled “the lead combat engineer for HKIA” *The tough decision to leave Marines behind on ship *The value of crossing training *The first few days on the ground at HKIA *Reactions to the news that the Taliban would cooperate with the Coalition *Working at Abbey, East, and North Gates *The last phase of the withdrawal *Creativity and problem-solving at HKIA *Radio communications during the NEO *Everett’s advice for lieutenants who may find themselves in situations like at HKIA *The training he received at Marine Corps Engineer School *Enemy contact at HKIA *Dismantling several of HKIA’s guard towers *Command and control at HKIA *Maneuver warfare concepts applied at HKIA *What Everett was doing the day of the Abbey Gate Bombing *Talking to his platoon about the Marine losses at HKIA *What Everett observed in his Marines after the NEO *Returning to Camp Lejeune *Everett’s advice on talking to people who have experienced a mission as harrowing as HKIA *The value of professional reading *The role and value of mental health checks and mental health services *The role of cell phones at HKIA *Cleaning up various parts of HKIA *The role of discipline *The most frustrating and rewarding aspects of the HKIA mission *Everett’s pride in the performance of his Marines *The most challenging decision he made at HKIA *Where Everett excelled as a commander and decision-maker and where he could have done better *The lessons he took away from HKIA, particularly as they apply to FD 2030 and the future Marine Corps *The role and value of decision games to train and educate Marines for missions like HKIA

In this episode, we discuss the following topics. *Josh’s joining 1/8 *Differences in morale and culture between units in the 1st and 2nd Marine Divisions *The current culture and unit pride in 1/8 *Recent controversies involving Third Battalion, Sixth Marines *The challenges and benefits of leading HKIA vets in his squad *Winning the 2nd Marine Division Annual Rifle Squad Competition and Marine Corps-Wide Rifle Squad Competition *How winning the competition affirmed Josh’s identity as an infantryman *Struggling with imposter syndrome *Josh’s experiences during his deployment to Haiti in support of Continuing Promise 2022 *What makes an ideal squad leader *Josh’s use of military simulators like Squad and Arma 3 for training purposes *Josh’s expectations for his: Junior Marines Fire team leaders Fellow squad leaders Platoon commander Company commander *The one thing he’d like current and future squad leaders to take away from this podcast