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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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About Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.

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episode ‘Sinners,’ Awards Season, and Pearline’s Husband With Jayme Lawson artwork

‘Sinners,’ Awards Season, and Pearline’s Husband With Jayme Lawson

Van and Rachel discuss Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell and Dak Prescott’s wedding being called off before reacting to the shooting at Rihanna’s home. Then, they discuss an update on the war in Iran before actress Jayme Lawson joins to talk representation in Hollywood, awards season, and of course, ’Sinners.’ (0:00) Intro (2:08) Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell (10:23) Dak Prescott and prenups (24:25) The shooting at Rihanna’s home (28:14) War in Iran (41:07) A conversation about Joe Budden: rooting for U.S.? (55:51) Jayme Lawson joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Jayme Lawson Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

10 Mar 2026 - 1 h 49 min
episode Trump Fires Kristi Noem, Talarico Takes Texas, and the Impact of ‘The Perfect Neighbor’ artwork

Trump Fires Kristi Noem, Talarico Takes Texas, and the Impact of ‘The Perfect Neighbor’

Van and Rachel react to President Donald Trump’s ouster of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and the results of the Texas Senate primary race before having another Drake–Kendrick Lamar debate thanks to Michael Eric Dyson. Finally, Pamela Dias and Takema Robinson join to discuss the grief, justice, and resilience behind the Netflix documentary 'The Perfect Neighbor.' (0:00) Intro (0:22) The cost of haircuts (11:34) Kristi Noem fired by Trump (23:18) ‘Scary Movie 6’ and cancel culture (33:02) Teddy Riley’s MJ Photoshop (38:41) James Talarico beats Jasmine Crockett (1:03:12) Tim Tebow speaks to Congress (1:13:47) Michael Eric Dyson on Drake vs. Kendrick (1:37::45) Black vacationers (1:41:04) Pamela Dias and Takema Robinson join the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Pamela Dias and Takema Robinson Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

6 Mar 2026 - 2 h 13 min
episode War in Iran, Chalamet vs. Jordan, and the American Black Film Festival artwork

War in Iran, Chalamet vs. Jordan, and the American Black Film Festival

Van and Rachel welcome Indiana University associate professor Hussein Banai, who gives his insight on the joint strikes against Iran. Then they switch gears to discuss Michael B. Jordan’s Oscar odds and Jonathan Majors’s next project. Then Jeff and Nicole Friday join to celebrate 30 years of the American Black Film Festival. (0:00) Intro (09:23) Hussein Banai on the conflict in Iran (41:53) Predictive history (1:02:20) NAACP Image Awards (1:09:27) Oscar speculation (1:23:36) Jonathan Majors and Ben Shapiro (1:36:34) Jeff and Nicole Friday join the show (2:05:42) Magic City Monday and the NBA Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Hussein Banai, Jeff Friday, and Nicole Friday Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

3 Mar 2026 - 2 h 17 min
episode Comedy, Music, and the Black Church With KevOnStage artwork

Comedy, Music, and the Black Church With KevOnStage

Kevin Fredericks, aka KevOnStage, joins Van and Rachel for a discussion that touches on everything from fear of failure, jokes, the Black church, gospel, and hip-hop. (0:00) Intro (:38) Getting past fear (15:50) God’s sense of humor (26:23) Pressure to get political (32:20) Gospel, hip-hop, and R&B (52:37) Going to church (58:45) Scripture, sexuality and the church (1:29:50) Oversharing and overexposure (1:42:09) “The Christian I will not be” (1:46:12) Boyz II Men vs. Dru Hill  (1:49:59) Anita Baker Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: KevOnStage Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

27 Feb 2026 - 2 h 1 min
episode The N-Word at the BAFTAs, Producing R. Kelly, and Gavin Newsom Backlash: Fair or Unfair? artwork

The N-Word at the BAFTAs, Producing R. Kelly, and Gavin Newsom Backlash: Fair or Unfair?

Van and Rachel react to the conversations around racism and ableism following outbursts at the BAFTA Awards, and Teddy Riley walking back support for R. Kelly. Plus, Gavin Newsom gets criticized, (0:00) Intro (9:24) N-word at the BAFTA Awards (34:53) Teddy Riley and R. Kelly (57:31) Gavin Newsom backlash (1:15:55) Huckabee on Israel: “Fine if they took it all” (1:30:55) Trump, Susan Rice, and Netflix (1:36:25) Economic viability for men Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

24 Feb 2026 - 2 h 10 min
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