How We Really Feel
What if the thing keeping your bladder symptoms going isn't just the infection, it's also what your brain is doing with the threat of it? And what if that doesn’t mean that your symptoms aren’t real? That it instead is reflective of your body being a highly interconnected system that needs some further understanding. That is what this conversation with Dr Laura Katz and Melissa Kramer explores. Dr Laura Katz is a clinical health and rehabilitation psychologist whose research has focused specifically on how women cope with bladder pain and interstitial cystitis including landmark work on emotion regulation, fear of pain, and helplessness as predictors of long-term outcomes. Melissa Kramer is the founder and CEO of Live UTI Free, a PhD researcher at the University of Reading, and someone with five years of her own chronic UTI experience. Between them, they bring rigorous science and deep lived understanding to a conversation that I think fills a real gap. For a lot of people navigating bladder and pelvic conditions, the moment anyone mentions psychology or thinking, it feels like another version of being told it's all in your head. We address that directly, clarifying terms, science and the neurobiology of thoughts. What this episode covers: * Why thoughts are not fluffy or separate from physical experience -they are part of the neurobiology of your nervous system, and they have measurable effects on pain * What Laura's research shows about emotion regulation as a predictor of quality of life in women with bladder pain- and why this is not about blame or willpower * The word catastrophising: why both guests take issue with it, what the research actually measures, and why fear of pain is a normal, human, adaptive response - not an overreaction * How fear of pain can longitudinally predict more pain -the chicken and egg, and what it means practically * What helplessness does to outcomes over time, and how perfectionism and self-blame can quietly compound a flare * Why validation must come before acceptance and what goes wrong clinically when it doesn't * What actually helps: forward motion, community used wisely, self-transcendence, and what happened when one of my own patients tried being kinder to herself mid-flare * Why clinicians should share the neuroscience directly with patients and how psychoeducation alone can shift fear Whether you're living with bladder symptoms, supporting someone who is, or you're a clinician working in this space I hope this leaves you with something that genuinely reframes things. Show notes, references and resources: https://www.howwereallyfeel.com/episode-6-urgency-urgently-thinking-thinking-away-the-urge [https://www.howwereallyfeel.com/episode-6-urgency-urgently-thinking-thinking-away-the-urge] This podcast is supported by Convatec Continence Care and their Me+ programme, which supports people using intermittent catheters with both practical guidance and emotional wellbeing resources. Find out more at www.howwereallyfeel.com/in-partnership-with-convatec [http://www.howwereallyfeel.com/in-partnership-with-convatec]
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