On The Phone w/ Ash & Amanda

122: 'I've never thought "Oh, that gay man was being subtle"' w/ JonnyCakes

This week on the pod: A VERY SPECIAL EPISODE!! We ask the one and only Jonny Cakes [https://www.instagram.com/thejonnycakes/?hl=en] a million questions about being a gay man: specifically pertaining to love, crushes, and of course, a queer pasttime, yearning. It's truly fascinating stuff. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com [nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Jonny: @thejonnycakes About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? * Instagram: @awkwardholland * TikTok: @awkwardholland * Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com [http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com] Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument." Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. * Instagram: @itsashlyperez * TikTok: @notashperez * Website: ashperez.com [http://www.ashperez.com/] * Pre-order "Speak Now" here [https://bit.ly/SpeakNowAudio]!

121: "You went straight to they blew each other!"

This week on the pod we're talking about recovering from Thanksgiving, the sucking and fuckin' on "Heated Rivarly," whether Amanda and Fiona's anniversary was too gay, and fun solo dates to treat yourself to. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com [nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: Patreon! [https://patreon.com/nowthatswhaticallpodcast] About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? * Instagram: @awkwardholland * TikTok: @awkwardholland * Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com [http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com] Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument." Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. * Instagram: @itsashlyperez * TikTok: @notashperez * Website: ashperez.com [http://www.ashperez.com/]

120: Cher's like your deranged aunt who just discovered Facebook."

This week on the pod we're talking about what the hell Cher could possibly be performing on SNL, Hilary Duff's comeback saving millennials and Ash's rom-com audiobook starring Jena Malone and Arienne Mandi! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com [nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: Patreon! [https://patreon.com/nowthatswhaticallpodcast] About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? * Instagram: @awkwardholland * TikTok: @awkwardholland * Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com [http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com] Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument." Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. * Instagram: @itsashlyperez * TikTok: @notashperez * Website: ashperez.com [http://www.ashperez.com/]

119: "Simps and Bottoms"

This week on the pod we're talking about Hilary Duff's new music, Ash's hysterectomy, being a big old simp, and his new autism diagnosis. Plus the ineffectiveness of the D.A.R.E program, and both of us being accidentally straightedge in high school. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com [nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: Patreon! [https://patreon.com/nowthatswhaticallpodcast] About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? * Instagram: @awkwardholland * TikTok: @awkwardholland * Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com [http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com] Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument." Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. * Instagram: @itsashlyperez * TikTok: @notashperez * Website: ashperez.com [http://www.ashperez.com/]

118: "The Italy episode: aka the time Amanda was underwhelmed by the Sistine Chapel"

Ciao! This week on the pod we're finally talking about the thing we've been leading up to the whole time we've had this podcast-- Amanda's trip to Italy! She cried at ruins, she loved Botticelli, she thought the Sistine chapel was mid! Lol. But anyway it's here, the Italia episode! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com [nowthatswhaticallpodcast@gmail.com] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: Patreon! [https://patreon.com/nowthatswhaticallpodcast] About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? * Instagram: @awkwardholland * TikTok: @awkwardholland * Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com [http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com] Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument." Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. * Instagram: @itsashlyperez * TikTok: @notashperez * Website: ashperez.com [http://www.ashperez.com/]