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States of Independence

Podcast by Talkhouse / Cup & Nuzzle

English

Culture & leisure

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States of Independence dives deep into the hidden histories of the world’s greatest independent record labels with the people that know them best – the founders who built them, and the artists who made them into the stuff of rock and roll legend. In season one, it’s the saga of Beggars Banquet – an iconic punk era label that would eventually spawn an indie empire. Featuring riotous tales from label founder, Martin Mills and a line-up of his highest-achieving alumni: Gary Numan, The Cult, Bauhaus, The Fall, The Charlatans, Love and Rockets, and so many more. All of them come together to tell the story of an organisation with the spirit of punk rock baked into its very DNA. ACCOMPANYING PLAYLIST: https://bit.ly/StatesPodPlaylist

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16 episodes

episode Ep 11: Trunk Records - with Jonny Trunk artwork

Ep 11: Trunk Records - with Jonny Trunk

Welcome back to States of Independence! This special episode goes deep into the story of Trunk Records, home of The Wicker Man soundtrack, Joe Harriott's Hum Dono, Michael Garrick's Moonscape, the music from Kes, Bod, The Clangers and so much more. Our guide on this grooviest of trips? The label's founder, Jonny Trunk. We discuss the avant-garde music under films of microbes on The Open University, Valerie Leon, high-end intellectuals, Jo Guest eating a banana, hidden worlds, music for washing up to, getting sampled on huge records made by “very cool weirdos”, Robin Hardy and the incredible story of The Wicker Man soundtrack. Who had 35,000 unsold records in their basement? (clue: it wasn't Jonny) and how do you never lose any money on anything? We discuss Harold McNair and “beautiful, miserable” British Jazz, how having lunch with Oliver Postgate was like “sitting with a god”, celebrating the corners of recorded music that everyone else has forgotten, the filthy fan letters to glamour models that are “ten times funnier than anything at Edinburgh Festival”, “Ian’s Pigs”, and the baffling genius of the late Basil Kirchin. Also, missing the classic Stark Reality Discovers Hoagy Carmichael's Music Shop album by a week, the brilliant British electronic soundtrack that was described by its creator as, “that old shit”, the real story of Trunk’s actual hit single, The Ladies Bras, the amazing Janet Beat (who listened to trees) and so much more! Who should I do next? Let me know in the comments - or find me @rob_fitzpatrick on IG or email me soipodbb@gmail.com Thank you for listening 🙌 Host / Executive producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Producer / Editor: Fabio Fitzpatrick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

18 Jun 2026 - 1 h 23 min
episode Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East artwork

Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East

In this last episode of the series we’re at the end of the 90s, a time when Beggars Banquet were signing a lot of guitar bands, but finding it hard to get any of them away. Derby’s own The Beekeepers struggled - the band’s ex-singer Jamie breaks down exactly why. Another that soldiered on and broke internationally was Biffy Clyro, but only after they’d left the label, as Biffy’s singer Simon Neil explains. In 2008 the Beggars Banquet label was shuttered and some artists were moved to 4AD - one of them was The National - and singer Matt Berninger talks us through that whole process. As ever, Beggars boss Martin Mills speaks with striking openness and honesty about these huge decisions of the past and the future of the Beggars Group. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

13 Nov 2025 - 1 h 21 min
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