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Why are people leaving the church?

37 min · 24 de abr de 2026
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"It's the music". At least, that's what many people say. Pastors have been hearing surface-level exit reasons for years: the worship style, the kids program, the Sunday schedule. And honestly? It's easier to accept those answers than to ask what's really going on. Because what if the real reason people are leaving has less to do with them and more to do with your church? It's a hard question. And most leaders never ask it. In this episode, Jason and Chad go beyond the stated reasons and into what's actually driving people out the door… the things nobody says out loud when they leave. In this episode, you'll hear: * Why the reasons people give for leaving are almost never the real reasons * The relational hurt, lack of connection, and spiritual unhealthiness that people are too uncomfortable to name on their way out * Why turning a blind eye to the real reasons doesn't just lose one family... it sets up the next one to leave the same way The question isn't just why are they leaving. It's whether you're willing to ask. Keenly exists to help you find those answers.  Visit keenly.org [https://keenly.org] to start the conversation.

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