The Leaders' Arena Podcast

Surviving a Saddle Embolism at 30 & The Heart Attack That Forced Him to Forgive | Xavier Smith

What happens when life repeatedly pulls the rug out from under you? In this raw, unscripted episode of The Leaders' Arena Podcast, hosts Clifford Starks and Nate Fochtman sit down with Xavier Smith, Founder of Xcellent Solutions LLC, for a powerful conversation on trauma, resilience and the ultimate power of self-ownership. Xavier opens up about surviving a near-fatal heart attack at age 29, followed years later by a massive saddle pulmonary embolism that brought him to his knees. He shares how these brush-with-death experiences forced him to confront a "17-year mental prison" of bitterness and blame regarding his childhood, revealing how true forgiveness became his only path to literal and emotional survival. Nate and Clifford tie these heavy lessons directly back to leadership, business strategy and addiction recovery. Nate reflects on his own journey through sobriety and the radical transparency required to build an efficient business, while Clifford breaks down how the principles of elite athletic training mirror the "reps" needed to succeed as an entrepreneur. Key Takeaways * The Trap of Mental Incarceration: How carrying unresolved bitterness acts like a slow-release poison to your physical and professional health. * Serving vs. Chasing: Why high-impact leaders stop dragging unmotivated clients and focus purely on finding alignment with the right people. * Mastering Your Demons: Nate shares his unique perspective on maintaining absolute control while working inside the alcohol industry during recovery. * The Difference Between Choices and Decisions: Understanding why true growth requires "burning the boats" instead of keeping casual options open. If you are a leader or entrepreneur feeling stuck in your own head, this unfiltered conversation is the wake-up call you need to step out of victimhood and regain control of your life's narrative. Follow The Leaders' Arena Podcast: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | TheLeadersArenaPodcast.com [https://www.linkedin.com/safety/go/?url=http%3A%2F%2FTheLeadersArenaPodcast%2Ecom&urlhash=YdpO&mt=kTIBtmgjyUzlFdVreX2pLcpZo5bmSzhsRdD6xHUENzMS5guC4ebvy89xNTzEMyB7VFiYqvcgNhaKd71V2GTWGmW48qkH7Jv00qKsNl7zfWWVhL20vUmqYavc&isSdui=true] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2547633/support] Produced By The FreeMind Group - FMGStrategy.com

The Spark: You can't force change before someone is ready.

You can't force change before someone is ready. That's the truth Laurie Sharp-Page, MS, LPCC-S, CWC [https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurie-sharp-page/] dropped in our upcoming conversation on The Leaders' Arena Podcast and it stopped me cold. Laurie calls them "mental health snacks." Small, intentional moments. Not the pill. Not the quick fix. Just recognizing what state you're in right now. Because here's the thing: the moment you recognize it, you've already shifted something. We want the big transformation. Laurie teaches the micro one. This episode is also a personal one for me. Laurie is a high school classmate I hadn't connected with in years. It's proof that it's never too late to reconnect with an old friend and learn something that changes how you see everything. New episode dropping soon. Follow The Leaders' Arena Podcast with Clifford Starks [https://www.linkedin.com/in/clifford-starks/]: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | TheLeadersArenaPodcast.com [https://www.linkedin.com/safety/go/?url=http%3A%2F%2FTheLeadersArenaPodcast%2Ecom&urlhash=YdpO&mt=kTIBtmgjyUzlFdVreX2pLcpZo5bmSzhsRdD6xHUENzMS5guC4ebvy89xNTzEMyB7VFiYqvcgNhaKd71V2GTWGmW48qkH7Jv00qKsNl7zfWWVhL20vUmqYavc&isSdui=true] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2547633/support] Produced By The FreeMind Group - FMGStrategy.com

The Spark: Growing Up In An Entrepreneurial Family with Mason & Jordan Viener | VienerX

"All my friends are at a lacrosse tournament in Ocean City and I'm sitting here setting up a Microsoft Link server with Jordan." That one line from Mason Viener tells you everything you need to know about what it actually looks like to grow up inside a family business. Not the highlight reel.  The Saturday mornings.  The summer breaks.  The years you don't fully understand what's being built around you, until one day you do. Mason and Jordan Viener sat down with me on The Leaders' Arena Podcast to talk about their father Wayne, who started VienerX in 1991, and what it really meant to be raised inside an entrepreneurial household with two business-owning parents who poured everything they had into their kids, their companies and their craft. Check out VienerX at VienerX.com and follow them on all platforms at @VIENERX. Listen to The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2F10dcQ3TcTRhn1rjvvHe7] & Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-leaders-arena-podcast/id1848576109] Watch The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe to The FreeMind Group on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@TheFreeMindGroup] The Leaders’ Arena Podcast is produced by The FreeMind Group [http://fmgstrategy.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2547633/support] Produced By The FreeMind Group - FMGStrategy.com

From Family Business to Enterprise Tech: The VienerX Story

Mason and Jordan Viener grew up watching their father Wayne build an IT firm from the ground up in 1991. Now they're running it themselves, and the company looks nothing like it did then. In this episode of The Leaders' Arena Podcast, Nate Fochtman sits down with the brothers behind VienerX, an industry-agnostic enterprise technology management firm serving multi-location brands across the Mid-Atlantic and beyond. We get into what it was really like growing up in an entrepreneurial household, the unglamorous truth about IT infrastructure, why bad processes get worse when you add software, and why Jordan thinks AI might be doing more harm than good. No script. No agenda. Just two guys who were setting up computers over summer break while their friends were at lacrosse tournaments, talking about what it actually takes to build something worth handing down. Topics covered: * Wayne Viener's origin story: from CPA to IT pioneer * What it's like growing up with two entrepreneurial parents * Why IT is the foundation of every business, not just a cost center * Multi-location brand consistency and the tech behind it * AI, hallucinations, and why "I don't know" is more valuable than a confident wrong answer * Data strategy before dashboards: what most companies skip * Why software amplifies bad processes instead of fixing them Check out VienerX at VienerX.com and follow them on all platforms at @VIENERX. Listen to The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2F10dcQ3TcTRhn1rjvvHe7] & Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-leaders-arena-podcast/id1848576109] Watch The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe to The FreeMind Group on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@TheFreeMindGroup] The Leaders’ Arena Podcast is produced by The FreeMind Group [http://fmgstrategy.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2547633/support] Produced By The FreeMind Group - FMGStrategy.com

The Spark: Most solopreneurs don’t actually own a business - they’ve just created a job where they can’t fire the boss.

In our latest episode of The Leaders' Arena Podcast, Rob Tracz MS, CSCS [https://www.linkedin.com/in/robtracz/] joins Clifford Starks [https://www.linkedin.com/in/clifford-starks/] and I for a raw conversation on what it actually takes to scale without losing your soul in the process. Rob shared his powerful transition from the world of elite strength coaching to high-performance strategy. We talked about "robot mode" - that state where you’re financially successful but completely disconnected from your family, your health and yourself. If you’re a founder feeling the weight, this one is for you - TheLeadersArenaPodcast.com [http://theleadersarenapodcast.com/] Connect with Rob Tracz: Website: RobTracz.com Listen to Surviving the Side Hustle Podcast | Subscribe on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2ewIJnm8vqcPKPchDqkA1g] & Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/surviving-the-side-hustle/id1711453767] Watch Surviving the Side Hustle Podcast | Subscribe to Surviving the Side Hustle on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingtheSideHustle-g3i] Listen to The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2F10dcQ3TcTRhn1rjvvHe7] & Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-leaders-arena-podcast/id1848576109] Watch The Leaders’ Arena Podcast | Subscribe to The FreeMind Group on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@TheFreeMindGroup] The Leaders’ Arena Podcast is produced by The FreeMind Group [http://fmgstrategy.com] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2547633/support] Produced By The FreeMind Group - FMGStrategy.com