Episode 23: The crumble of capitalism - why doing good is now considered a crime - hint hint hint - it’s all by design
About Our Guest
Mazarine Treyz [https://healingfromnonprofits.com] is an American multi-hyphenate polycreative – artist, trainer, writer, speaker, human design reader, consultant and facilitator of spaces for radical imagination.
She’s worked in the nonprofit, government and entrepreneurial spaces, given over 100 keynotes and workshops in 4 countries, directed 15 online conferences, written 10 courses, gotten ongoing government contracts with five different municipalities, and not done yet.
She [https://healingfromnonprofits.com] is a lifelong artist and lives in Oregon with a growing garden, an incredible community, a wonderful human and a sweet little cat.
Books [https://healingfromnonprofits.com]
Speaking inquiries [https://mazarinetreyz.com]
Paintings, prints and workshops [https://mazarine.art]
There’s a kind of tired that doesn’t make sense on paper.
You care. You show up. You give your best to the work, to the people around you, to something larger than yourself. And still, the exhaustion accumulates. Not because you’re failing. Not because you’re weak. But because something much larger has been quietly feeding on your effort for a very long time.
That’s where this conversation begins.
In Episode 23, we’re continuing our May series, Roadmap to Resilience, and this time we brought in a voice that reframes the word entirely. Our guest is Mazarine Treyz [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mazarine-treyz/], author, artist, speaker, human design reader, and somatic healing facilitator. Her newest book, Healing from the Nonprofit Sector [https://www.healingfromnonprofits.com/], carries a title that undersells it. Because what Mazarine is really writing about is the way systems are designed to extract from people who care the most, and what it takes to find your way back to yourself when that extraction has gone on for too long.
The conversation moved through territory that felt, honestly, like a long exhale.
We talked about the particular kind of shame that lives in high achievers: the quiet belief that if you haven’t done enough, haven’t healed enough, haven’t pushed far enough, that’s somehow your fault. Mazarine makes a grounding and clear case that this isn’t a personal failing. It’s a structural one. The overwhelm, the depletion, the feeling that you’re working inside a machine that wasn’t built for you? That is the system working as designed.
From there, the conversation moved into what it means to do good in the world while being systematically depleted by the structures you’re working inside. The nonprofit sector is the lens, but the experience is not limited to it. High salary, high status, high output. And still, for so many of our listeners, a creeping sense that something isn’t sustainable. That the cost of caring has become too high, and they don’t know yet what to do with that realization.
Anger came up too. Not as a problem to manage or a feeling to apologize for, but as a signal. As information. As something with real intelligence underneath it, pointing toward unmet needs and unspoken truths. Staying with the harder feelings rather than bypassing them is where this conversation lived, and it’s not a small thing.
Rest came up as well. Not as a reward, not as a luxury, but as a starting point for clarity, for knowing what you actually need, for understanding what comes next.
What moved us most in this exchange is the way Mazarine holds the weight of what is happening in the world right now without sliding into despair. She names the design. She names the harm. And then she brings it back to the body, to the self, to the radical possibility that your needs matter and your feelings are data.
If you have ever poured yourself into meaningful work and felt confused by how hollow or depleted it left you, this episode is worth sitting with.
If you have been carrying a wordless kind of anger and wondering whether it belongs to you or to something larger, that’s in here too.
You can find Mazarine’s book and workbook at healingfromnonprofits.com [https://www.healingfromnonprofits.com/].
If this episode is sitting with you, or if you’re somewhere in the middle of your own version of burnout, depletion, or that particular crossroads that doesn’t quite have a name yet, we’re here.
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