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The Real Deal Landman Show

Podcast by Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson

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About The Real Deal Landman Show

The Real Deal Landman Show pulls back the curtain on the fascinating world of land and energy professionals, offering an authentic counterpoint to Hollywood's dramatized version. Join veteran landmen Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins as they serve up hilarious real-world stories, expert insights, and candid conversations with industry legends. From oil fields to renewable energy projects, discover the true adventures, challenges, and triumphs of the professionals who secure America's energy future.

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44 episodes

episode Episode 43: Stack Your Oil and Gas Data with Kyla Lawson artwork

Episode 43: Stack Your Oil and Gas Data with Kyla Lawson

Recent episodes of the Real Deal Landman Show have emphasized the innovative technological landscape, including AI, data centers, and fractional investment opportunities in oil and gas assets. (If you enjoy geeky, tech discussions, be sure to check out past episodes.) To get the greatest effectiveness out of your AI initiatives, it’s important to have clean data. The StackDX platform is comprehensive and offers numerous features, but what many customers appreciate is the value it adds to the data they already own.  In the first truly international episode, Jerris joins Kyla Lawson of Stack Technologies in Calgary to talk about farming, career beginnings, building and selling EnergyLink, and now, the proliferation of StackDX in North America. Connect with Kyla and Stack on LinkedIn and learn more about the platform at StackDX.com [http://StackDX.com]

23 Jun 2026 - 43 min
episode Episode 42: Oil and Gas Investing for Everyone with Tokenized Energy artwork

Episode 42: Oil and Gas Investing for Everyone with Tokenized Energy

So many listeners of the Real Deal Landman Show work in the oil and gas industry, yet how many own assets themselves? The RDLS welcomes back Tim Pawul (previously on Episode 20) and introduces Chip Simmons and Adrian Macias of Tokenized Energy.  Recent episodes have explored many thoughts about artificial intelligence, data centers, and the rapidly approaching future of the landman profession. This conversation builds on those concepts, arguing that technology has now made it possible for anyone to start building a portfolio of oil and gas investments with a smaller initial contribution than you might think. After you watch or listen to the full episode (and subscribe, of course), be sure to check out https://tokenizedenergy.com/ [https://tokenizedenergy.com/] to learn how to further your journey as a real deal landman… or geologist… or engineer… or HR rep… or…  Disclaimer: The information discussed on this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as financial, investment, tax, or legal advice. Opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and may not reflect current market conditions. You should not rely on this information as a substitute for professional advice tailored to your individual situation.

9 Jun 2026 - 46 min
episode Episode 41: Catfish, Software, and Data Centers with Jake Anderson artwork

Episode 41: Catfish, Software, and Data Centers with Jake Anderson

In case you needed more proof that Drew Hopkins is the main attraction on the Real Deal Landman Show, this episode introduces another fascinating aspect of his life: catfish noodling. Watch the full episode video and see a picture of the biggest monster (literally) that he has caught. We were pleased to have Jake Anderson of PV Case with us. Jake and his team built an incredible product for scouting and identifying sites for renewable energy projects. It has scaled worldwide and has incorporated critical attributes for data center development. And for those who have been following the jaw-dropping numbers about data centers, Jake offers cautionary wisdom to question what we see in the headlines. Contact Jake at jake@pvcase.com [jake@pvcase.com] and take a look at the PVCase Prospect tool: https://pvcase.com/prospect [https://pvcase.com/prospect].  RDLS just hit 1K followers on LinkedIn! Follow us there for video snippets, random theme songs, industry news, and landman job postings. Takeaways * Renewable Energy Site Selection * Data Center Expansion Data Center Development * Energy Grid Challenges Chapters * 00:00 Introduction and Noodling Stories * 06:09 Jake Anderson's Background and Company Journey * 16:36 Site Selection for Renewable Energy * 24:32 Impact of Renewable Energy Pullback and New Use Cases * 31:42 Data Center Development

29 May 2026 - 49 min
episode Episode 40: What AI is Doing for Owner Relations with Dagen Boyd artwork

Episode 40: What AI is Doing for Owner Relations with Dagen Boyd

Well more than a month after it’s over, this seems like the perfect time to share our NCAA March Madness predictions. Note that Dagen Boyd, Co-founder of Firm.App [http://Firm.App], called it perfectly. Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson hear Dagen's story and his experiences with evolving, innovative technology, particularly how AI can revolutionize owner relations and customer service in the oil and gas industry and continue to impact other roles and workflows in operations. If you're fascinated by the capabilities and ongoing impacts of artificial intelligence, this is an episode you'll enjoy. Follow Dagen Boyd on LinkedIn and learn about Firm.App [http://Firm.App]. Chapters * 00:00 March Madness * 06:04 The Development of Firm.App * 28:27 The Role of AI in Owner Relations * 42:05 The Evolution of Job Roles with AI * 53:38 The Future Impact of AI

12 May 2026 - 52 min
episode Episode 39: The Colocation Loophole with Brendan O'Donnell artwork

Episode 39: The Colocation Loophole with Brendan O'Donnell

This episode of The Real Deal Landman Show kicks off with Drew Hopkins talking about his experiences at MLB Spring Training. (He didn't make any of the teams.) It goes on to introduce Brendan O'Donnell of the Pittsburgh-based Houston Harbaugh law firm and feature a discussion on oil and gas law, data centers, and lease agreements. Brendan has the opportunity to provide legal representation for landowners in oil and gas matters. He is experienced with complicated title and royalty issues, and he has recently introduced an interesting concept about a loophole that might exist in co-locating data center development with oil and gas operations. Read "The Colocation Loophole" as part of "The Oil and Gas Addendum" blog on the Houston Harbaugh website at hh-law.com [http://hh-law.com]. Find and connect with Brendan on LinkedIn. As a reminder, this episode in no way constitutes as legal advice. Takeaways * Oil and gas law * Data centers and oil and gas operations * Lease agreements and royalty clauses Chapters * 00:00 Introduction to the Real Deal Landman Show * 05:36 Recording Across Three Time Zones * 10:48 Title Issues and Historical Oil and Gas Law in Pennsylvania * 19:13 The Co-Location Loophole and Data Centers Impact on Oil and Gas Operations * 26:43 Potential Litigation and Future Implications of Oil and Gas Law * 37:55 Negotiating Oil and Gas Leases and Preventing Legal Issues

30 Apr 2026 - 38 min
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