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L.A. Paul is the Millstone Family Professor of Philosophy and Professor of Cognitive Science at Yale University. She is also the author of Transformative Experience [https://www.amazon.com/Transformative-Experience-L-Paul-ebook/dp/B00NHNGXBC/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]. Her work on transformative experience has been covered by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, NPR, and the BBC, among others. And in 2024, she was profiled by The New Yorker.  Sponsors: MUD\WTR [https://mudwtr.com/tim] energy-boosting coffee alternative—without the jitters: https://MUDWTR.com/Tim [https://mudwtr.com/tim] (between 15% and 43% off) Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra [https://eightsleep.com/Tim] sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://eightsleep.com/tim [https://eightsleep.com/tim] (save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra) LinkedIn Ads [https://linkedin.com/TFS], the go-to tool for B2B marketers and advertisers who want to drive brand awareness and generate leads: LinkedIn.com/TFS [https://linkedin.com/TFS] ($100 LinkedIn ad credit) Timestamps: [00:00;00] Start [00:05:55] The role of Quentin Smith. [00:09:56] Early philosophy class disasters. [00:13:34] How is philosophy relevant to the average person? [00:20:17] A correspondence experiment with philosophers. [00:25:29] The role of philosophy in modern times. [00:27:50] The vampire problem. [00:39:31] What you can't expect when you're expecting. [00:42:36] When transformative experiences happen without our consent. [00:48:12] Choosing between potentially transformative experiences. [00:52:09] How Laurie made the choice to have children. [00:56:34] What galvanized Laurie's trajectory from hard sciences to philosophy? [01:01:14] Recommended reading for the novice philosopher. [01:02:59] An aside defining counterfactuals. [01:07:15] What makes understanding analytic philosophy a worthwhile endeavor? [01:10:29] What readers can expect of Laurie's book, Transformative Experience. [01:12:30] Epistemology. [01:13:15] How to maintain a passion for philosophy. [01:17:21] Commonly misrepresented philosophical concepts. [01:19:59] Continental philosophy. [01:21:48] Philosophy beyond the academic. [01:23:46] Laurie vs. Agnes Callard. [01:25:34] Aristotle vs. drugs. [01:32:01] Thoughts on life's final transformative experience: death. [01:35:48] Forgiving the philosophers and other parting thoughts. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast [https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description]. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors [https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors] Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday [https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/]. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts [https://tim.blog/transcripts]. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books [https://tim.blog/books]. 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This time around, we have a bit of a different format, featuring the book that started it all for me, The 4-Hour Workweek [https://www.amazon.com/4-Hour-Workweek-Anywhere-Expanded-Updated/dp/B0031KN6T8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]. Readers and listeners often ask me what I would change or update, but an equally interesting question is: what wouldn’t I change? What stands the test of time and hasn’t lost any potency? This episode features one of the most important chapters from the audiobook of The 4-Hour Workweek. It includes tools and frameworks that I use to this day, including Pareto’s Law and Parkinson’s Law.  The chapter is narrated by the great voice actor Ray Porter. If you are interested in checking out the rest of the audiobook, which is produced and copyrighted by Blackstone Publishing, you can find it on Audible [https://www.amazon.com/4-Hour-Workweek-Anywhere-Expanded-Updated/dp/B0031KN6T8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20], Apple [https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-4-hour-workweek-expanded-and-updated-escape-9-5/id1646139635?ls=1], Google [https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details?id=AQAAAABEIGggPM&pli=1], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/7JnUhVyFL0VArWBOCOsZgR], Downpour.com [https://www.downpour.com/the-4-hour-workweek-expanded-and-updated?sp=17422], or wherever you find your favorite audiobooks. 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[https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/], Neil Strauss [https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/], Ken Burns [https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/], Maria Sharapova [https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/], Marc Andreessen [https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/], Neil Gaiman [https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/], Neil de Grasse Tyson [https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/], Jocko Willink [https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/], Daniel Ek [https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/], Kelly Slater [https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/], Dr. Peter Attia [https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/], Seth Godin [https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/], Howard Marks [https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/], Dr. Brené Brown [https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/], Eric Schmidt 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Brandon Sanderson is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Stormlight Archive [https://www.amazon.com/Stormlight-Archive-Books-1-4-Oathbringer-ebook/dp/B0C5726Y6M/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20] series and the Mistborn [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4N71QWS/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20] saga; the middle-grade series Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CCKTNR/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]; and the young-adult novels The Rithmatist [https://www.amazon.com/Rithmatist-Brandon-Sanderson-ebook/dp/B00AJGNICW/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20], the Reckoners [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C1YZTSV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20] trilogy, and the Skyward [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGLGJBH/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20] series. He has sold more than 40 million books in 35 languages, and he is a four-time nominee for the Hugo Awards, winning in 2013 for his novella The Emperor’s Soul [https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Soul-Elantris-Book-ebook/dp/B00A1XOPE8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]. 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See full disclosures here [https://wealthfront.com/Tim]. Timestamps: 00:00 Meet Brandon Sanderson 07:10 Soundcheck Fun and Memory Skills 11:21 Brandon's Writing Journey and Creative Process 25:35 Teaching Creative Writing and Publishing Insights 38:08 Brandon's Early Reading Experience 44:18 Discovering the Magic of Storytelling 45:32 A Journey from C Student to A Student 47:02 The Influence of a Great Teacher 48:51 Understanding Narrative and Plot 56:42 The Art of Character Development 01:09:42 Balancing Writing and Personal Life 01:24:04 Meeting Editors and Early Struggles 01:24:30 First Book Sale and Financial Realities 01:25:28 The Danger of the Second Book 01:25:49 Hitting the Bestseller List 01:26:34 Amazon and the Changing Market 01:29:03 Entrepreneurial Shift and Direct Sales 01:36:45 Building a Team and Crowdfunding 01:42:50 Kickstarter Success and Lessons Learned 01:52:22 COVID and Creative Freedom 02:02:53 Brandon Sanderson's Colbert Report Cameo 02:03:48 Kickstarter Success and Subscription Boxes 02:09:01 Test Readers and Feedback Process 02:14:16 Warbreaker and Creative Commons Experiment 02:22:50 Navigating Publishing Deals and Platforms 02:33:26 The Wheel of Time Opportunity 02:42:36 The Call to Finish The Wheel of Time 02:43:10 Negotiating the Deal 02:43:56 The Struggles of Mistborn 02:45:02 The Cosmere and Building an Audience 02:48:25 The Death Spiral in Publishing 02:52:29 Magic Systems and Their Importance 03:00:39 Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic 03:14:35 The Zero Law and Final Thoughts * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast [https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description]. 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This episode is part of a new experiment called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher. In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life. Henry’s app, The Way [https://thewayapp.com/tim], has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim [https://thewayapp.com/tim] and downloading the app. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

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