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Epistemic Antisemitism and Black Conservative Influencer Xaviaer DuRousseau

1 h 9 min · 5. Mai 2026
Episode Epistemic Antisemitism and Black Conservative Influencer Xaviaer DuRousseau Cover

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From viral firestorms to death threats, this man isn’t backing down from the Israel conversation. Jonah Platt sits down with conservative activist Xaviaer DuRousseau, who describes his rapid shift from a Bernie-supporting, BLM-boosting young liberal to a professional Republican who appears on Fox News, visits the White House, and publicly supports Israel, including traveling to Gaza during the war. Xaviaer recounts growing up in Chicago and Central Illinois with Marxist family influences, becoming an activist, then researching BLM finances and concluding the movement was fraudulent, which led him to vote for Trump and face family accusations of white supremacy. He argues Bernie-to-Trump is a seamless anti-establishment pipeline, rejects widespread student-loan forgiveness as a solution, and says crime drives businesses and jobs out of black neighborhoods. Xaviaer credits a 2023 Shabbat dinner at PragerU and multiple Israel trips with deepening his connection to Jewish life, describing backlash, antisemitism, death threats, and filming humanitarian aid in Gaza to counter starvation claims. He criticizes anti-Israel voices across the left and right, advocates a black/Jewish alliance based on shared history, and discusses resentment, Marxism, and cultural lessons between the communities. Xaviaer presents his “hot takes” on most modern-day racism being against white people and asians, how he would be talking shit all day if he were jewish, and how “hood” black folks love Trump. Plus, Jonah explains why epistemic antisemitism, despite its subtlety and widespread normalization, is so terribly destructive. 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[https://beingjewish.supportingcast.fm/] Watch Being Jewish on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast] Subscribe to the Being Jewish Newsletter: bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter [https://bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter] For Sponsorships, please email: jonahplattinfo@gmail.com [jonahplattinfo@gmail.com] Merchandise https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch [https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch] To contact us & all things BJJP: www.BeingJewishPodcast.com [https://www.beingjewishpodcast.com/] Follow Jonah on: Instagram - @JonahPlatt [https://www.instagram.com/jonahplatt] X - @JonahPlatt [https://www.x.xom/jonahplatt] Follow Being Jewish on: Instagram - @BeingJewishPodcast [https://www.instagram.com/beingjewishpodcast] TikTok - @BeingJewish [https://www.tiktok.com/@beingjewish] Written and Hosted by Jonah Platt, Executive Producers: Steve Hein, Jonah Platt, Chief Business Officer: Kenyon Laing, Chief Marketing Officer: Katya Chen, Production Manager/Executive Assistant: Josie Rothschild, Research Associate: Samantha Greenwald,  Production Associate: Rachel Stern, Production Interns: Sasha Nelson, Emma Webb, YouTube Consultants: Jason Al-Samarrie & Zac Stein, Post Production by TIMEWEAVER, Creative Director: F. 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Episode Call Me Back x Being Jewish Crossover! Dan Senor predicts the Jewish Future, plus A New Kind of Aliyah Cover

Call Me Back x Being Jewish Crossover! Dan Senor predicts the Jewish Future, plus A New Kind of Aliyah

From Saudi officials to diaspora Jews, why are so many people listening to Dan Senor? Dan Senor, host of the Call Me Back podcast and co-author of Start-Up Nation, joins Jonah for a deep dive on Israel, Jewish identity, and the future of Jewish life in the Diaspora. Senor explains how Call Me Back built a devoted audience organically, attracting diaspora Jews seeking trustworthy information, journalists looking for good-faith dialogue, and even international listeners, including Saudi officials, drawn to its thoughtful, long-form conversations about Israel and the Middle East. Senor discusses how the October 7 attacks reshaped Jewish engagement, the sense of political homelessness many moderate Jews have experienced, and the opportunities emerging from one of the most consequential moments in modern Jewish history. He also emphasizes the need for a Jewish Renaissance centered on expanding access to Jewish day schools, Jewish summer camps, Israel programs, and lifelong Jewish learning. Senor argues that investing in Jewish education and community infrastructure is essential for Jews to flourish. THIS WEEK’S MONOLOGUE: Jonah reflects on the importance of allies, why he'll sell tickets to future events in pairs, and why “ALLY-ah” may be just as important - if not more important - than aliyah right now.  MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 00:07:30 — How Call Me Back Became the World’s Number One Israel Podcast Dan on building the top Israel podcast organically after October 7th. Call me Back Podcast - with Dan Senor - YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast] 00:10:45 — “Israel Was at War. The Diaspora Was Under Attack.” Dan quotes Rabbi Ingber's defining line on October 7th: Israel was at war, but the diaspora had no army to fight back. The toll of the Israel-Hamas War on diaspora Jews [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAx-P_4Ft0] 00:15:09 — Would Dan Interview Former Allies Who’ve Gone to a “Dark Place”? Dan considers hosting antisemitic voices to understand, not challenge, their logic. 00:27:33 — Why “Call Me Back” Audience Skews Left of Dan Senor The “October 8th Jew” phenomenon and left-of-center Jews finding community. A look at the October 8th Jews | The Jerusalem Post [https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-873042] 00:31:42 — The Jewish Future Is Too Expensive. Here’s How to Fix It. Dan on day schools, affordability gaps, and the case for a Jewish renaissance. Why Jewish Living Feels So Expensive These Days | Kosher Money [https://www.livinglchaim.com/shows/kosher-money/why-jewish-life-feels-so-expensive-these-days] 00:43:37 — Where Do Adult Jews Without Kids Find Jewish Community? Dan on Rachel Goldberg-Polin, the Hartman Institute, and adult entry points to Jewish life. Rachel Goldberg-Polin on her Jewish faith and her slain son's spiritual quest [https://religionnews.com/2026/04/29/rachel-goldberg-polin-on-her-jewish-faith-and-her-slain-son-hersh-goldberg-polin-spiritual-quest/] More Ways To Connect with Being Jewish: Support the podcast directly by becoming a member of the Kehillah. [https://beingjewish.supportingcast.fm/] To contact us & all things BJJP: www.BeingJewishPodcast.com [https://www.beingjewishpodcast.com/] Watch Being Jewish on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast] Subscribe to the Being Jewish Newsletter: bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter [https://bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter] For Sponsorships, please email: jonahplattinfo@gmail.com [jonahplattinfo@gmail.com] Merchandise https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch [https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch] Follow Jonah on: Instagram - @JonahPlatt [https://www.instagram.com/jonahplatt] X - @JonahPlatt [https://www.x.xom/jonahplatt] Follow Being Jewish on: Instagram - @BeingJewishPodcast [https://www.instagram.com/beingjewishpodcast] TikTok - @BeingJewish [https://www.tiktok.com/@beingjewish] Learn More about Dan Senor: Call Me Back - with Dan Senor - Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/call-me-back-with-dan-senor/id1539292794] Dan Senor Website [https://www.dansenor.com/callmeback] Dan Senor X [https://x.com/dansenor?lang=en] Credits: Written and Hosted by Jonah Platt, Executive Producers: Steve Hein, Jonah Platt, Chief Marketing Officer: Katya Chen, Production Manager/Executive Assistant: Josie Rothschild, Research Associate: Samantha Greenwald,  Production Associates: Rachel Stern, Sasha Fiora, Production Intern: Emma Webb,  YouTube Consultants: Jason Al-Samarrie & Zac Stein, Post Production by TIMEWEAVER, Creative Director: F. Brian Scofield, ACE, Lead Editor: Noam Klement, Editors: Gray Clevenger, Geoff McGee. Graphic Designer: Noah Bell, Theme Music by Gabriel Mann, Performed by Jonah Platt

16. Juni 202655 min
Episode Does Mayim Bialik Feel Safe in Public? & The Collective Punishment Paradox Cover

Does Mayim Bialik Feel Safe in Public? & The Collective Punishment Paradox

From The Big Bang Theory to Jewish advocacy, Mayim Bialik shares the personal journey behind the public persona. Jonah Platt interviews actress, neuroscientist, author, and Orthodox Jew Mayim Bialik (Blossom and The Big Bang Theory) about rising antizionism and antisemitism, arguing it functions as a hate movement that shuts down dialogue through intimidation and threats. The conversation explores the rise of antizionist activism on college campuses, her parenting two sons amid the campus hostility, and her experiences navigating public criticism. She shares about her experiences visiting family in the West Bank, and her identification with Israel as her homeland. Jonah and Mayim discuss personal experiences of being confronted online and in public. Such as being protested for being labeled a “Zionist,” and her experience with shifting attitudes at UCLA in the late 1990s/early 2000s.  She also reflects on her directorial debut, As They Made Us, pressures in Hollywood such as lost sponsorships and exclusion from liberal spaces, and the courage required to remain visibly Jewish in public life. Thoughtful, honest, and often humorous, this episode offers a powerful exploration of identity, resilience, and what it means to live proudly as a Jew in the modern world. THIS WEEK’S MONOLOGUE: Jonah unpacks the paradox of two true statements, both seemingly made untrue by the other: Denying the connection of the Jewish people to Israel is bigotry. AND, conflating the Jewish people with Israel is also bigotry. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 00:08:15 — Being a Public Jew in the Age of Social Media and Online Threats Mayim on how social media exposed her to antisemitic threats long before October 7th. MAYIM BIALIK: OUR SAFETY IS AT RISK WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE [https://www.ynetnews.com/culture/article/h1ki3nbqa] 00:17:00 — Anti-Zionism on Campus: 30 Years of Hostility from Cincinnati to UCLA Mayim traces three decades of campus anti-Zionism from UCLA swastikas to university protests. Jewish Faculty Members at UCLA Say Enough is Enough - File Legal Documents to Join a Federal Lawsuit to Stop Antisemitic Incidents on Campus [https://www.holtzmanvogel.com/news-insights/jewish-faculty-members-at-ucla-say-enough-is-enough] 00:32:15 — Liberal Zionism: The Strange Intersection Mayim on staying a committed Zionist while the Democratic Party distances itself. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A LIBERAL AMERICAN ZIONIST? [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-liberal-american-zionist/] 00:40:15 — Life in the West Bank: Armed Settlements, Checkpoints, and Human Complexity Mayim on her family's 50-year life on armed West Bank settlements. ‘JEW-FREE ZONE’ – MY EXPERIENCE IN THE WEST BANK [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jew-free-zone-my-experience-in-the-west-bank/] 00:53:47 — Hollywood Post-October 7th: Sponsors Lost, Silence, and Jewish Self-Segregation Mayim on losing podcast sponsors and Hollywood's silence after October 7th. I WAS BETRAYED BY HOLLYWOOD FOR SPEAKING OUT AFTER OCTOBER 7, SAYS WILL & GRACE STAR DEBRA MESSING [https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/i-was-betrayed-by-hollywood-for-speaking-out-after-october-7-says-will-and-grace-star-debra-messing-iyzhl1tw] 01:05:24 — Baal Teshuva: From Reform Roots to Modern Orthodoxy, Divorce, and the Gaps in Jewish Community Mayim traces her baal teshuva path from Reform childhood to Modern Orthodoxy. WHAT IS A BAAL TESHUVAH? [https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3998473/jewish/Baal-Teshuvah.htm] This Episode’s Partner: Start watching or listening to Wondering Jews with Mijal and Noam at unpacked.bio/WJ [http://unpacked.bio/WJ] More Ways To Connect with Being Jewish: Support the podcast directly by becoming a member of the Kehillah. [https://beingjewish.supportingcast.fm/] To contact us & all things BJJP: www.BeingJewishPodcast.com [https://www.beingjewishpodcast.com/] Watch Being Jewish on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast] Subscribe to the Being Jewish Newsletter: bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter [https://bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter] For Sponsorships, please email: jonahplattinfo@gmail.com [jonahplattinfo@gmail.com] Merchandise https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch [https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch] Follow Jonah on: Instagram - @JonahPlatt [https://www.instagram.com/jonahplatt] X - @JonahPlatt [https://www.x.xom/jonahplatt] Follow Being Jewish on: Instagram - @BeingJewishPodcast [https://www.instagram.com/beingjewishpodcast] TikTok - @BeingJewish [https://www.tiktok.com/@beingjewish] Learn more about Mayim Bialik: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/missmayim/ [https://www.instagram.com/missmayim/] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MayimBialik [https://www.youtube.com/@MayimBialik] Podcast: https://www.bialikbreakdown.com/ [https://www.bialikbreakdown.com/] Credits: Written and Hosted by Jonah Platt, Executive Producers: Steve Hein, Jonah Platt, Chief Marketing Officer: Katya Chen, Production Manager/Executive Assistant: Josie Rothschild, Research Associate: Samantha Greenwald,  Production Associate: Rachel Stern, Sasha Nelson Production Intern: Emma Webb,  YouTube Consultants: Jason Al-Samarrie & Zac Stein, Post Production by TIMEWEAVER, Creative Director: F. Brian Scofield, ACE, Lead Editor: Noam Klement, Editors: Gray Clevenger, Geoff McGee. Graphic Designer: Noah Bell, Theme Music by Gabriel Mann, Performed by Jonah Platt

9. Juni 20261 h 14 min
Episode Is Antizionism Antisemitism? Adam Louis-Klein, Founder of Movement Against Antizionism Cover

Is Antizionism Antisemitism? Adam Louis-Klein, Founder of Movement Against Antizionism

What if the answer to "is antizionism antisemitism" is NO...but not for the reason you think? Adam Louis-Klein breaks down the history, language, and ideas driving the debate.   In a thought-provoking conversation, host Jonah Platt interviews Adam Louis-Klein, who returned from anthropological fieldwork with the Desana in the Amazon just after October 7, 2023, to discover the horrors of the attack on Israel. This drove him to become a leading voice opposing antizionism through his writing, appearances, and the organization he founded, Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ). Adam defines antizionism as hatred of Israel and argues it functions like racism via obsessive libels, such as “colonizer,” “apartheid,” and “genocide,” used to justify hostility and violence against Jewish people. He distinguishes pre-1948 Jewish antizionism from modern antizionism, which he traces to Arab nationalist and Soviet propaganda, and criticizes institutional normalization in universities, NGOs, media, and governments. Klein contends antizionism harms Palestinians by empowering militias like Hamas and Hezbollah and outlines a “truth and reconciliation” vision including antizionism studies and memorialization.    Together, Jonah and Adam discuss the history of Bundism, Reform Judaism, Neturei Karta, the Oslo Accords, and debates surrounding the West Bank, Judea and Samaria, and Israeli identity. The episode also explores how to engage progressive audiences, respond to antizionist rhetoric, and build institutions capable of addressing one of the most consequential ideological battles facing the Jewish community today.   Plus, this week Jonah is back with the fourth installment of L’Dor V'adorable! We thought it couldn’t get any more adorable.  MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 16:17 — The Three Core Antizionist Libels: Colonizer, Apartheid, and Genocide Klein breaks down the foundational accusations driving the antizionist movement — how the colonizer, apartheid, and genocide narratives were engineered to exploit modern moral sensibilities. Defeating Antizionism [https://sapirjournal.org/aspiration-ii/2026/defeating-antizionism/] 23:37 — Why "Antizionism" Is the Right Term (Not "Antisemitism") Klein explains why the hate movement has been named as antizionism rather than antisemitism — including the historical parallelism between the two terms and why the distinction actually reaches more people. Understanding Antisemitism and Anti-Zionism [https://www.adl.org/resources/tools-and-strategies/understanding-antisemitism-and-anti-zionism] 51:29 — How Antizionism Harms Palestinians, Allies, and Civilization Itself A breakdown of the collateral damage antizionism causes beyond Jews — including Palestinians living under Hamas/Hezbollah, non-Jewish allies marked as Zionists, and the broader erosion of democratic norms. Antizionism Is a Hate Movement That Harms Palestinians and All Western Societies [https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/antizionism-is-a-hate-movement-that-harms-palestinians-and-all-western-societies/] 1:15:03 - A Vision for a Post-Anti-Zionism World Klein's framework for what it would take for society to fully reckon with antizionism the way it has with the Holocaust, including media accountability, university reform, and memorialization. This Episode’s Partner: Thank you to Birthright Israel Foundation [http://www.onetripchangeseverything.org/] More Ways To Connect with Being Jewish: Support the podcast directly by becoming a member of the Kehillah. [https://beingjewish.supportingcast.fm/] To contact us & all things BJJP: www.BeingJewishPodcast.com [https://www.beingjewishpodcast.com/] Watch Being Jewish on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@beingjewishpodcast] Subscribe to the Being Jewish Newsletter: bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter [https://bit.ly/beingjewishnewsletter] For Sponsorships, please email: jonahplattinfo@gmail.com [jonahplattinfo@gmail.com] Merchandise https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch [https://beingjewishpodcast.com/merch] Follow Jonah on: Instagram - @JonahPlatt [https://www.instagram.com/jonahplatt] X - @JonahPlatt [https://www.x.xom/jonahplatt] Follow Being Jewish on: Instagram - @BeingJewishPodcast [https://www.instagram.com/beingjewishpodcast] TikTok - @BeingJewish [https://www.tiktok.com/@beingjewish] Learn More about Adam Louis-Klein: Adam Louis-Klein Website [https://www.adamlouisklein.com/] Adam Louis-Klein Instagram  [https://www.instagram.com/adam_louis_klein/] Movement Against Antizionism(MAAZ) [https://www.movementagainstantizionism.org/] MAAZ Toolkits [https://www.movementagainstantizionism.org/toolkit] CREDITS: Written and Hosted by Jonah Platt, Executive Producers: Steve Hein, Jonah Platt, Chief Marketing Officer: Katya Chen, Production Manager/Executive Assistant: Josie Rothschild, Research Associate: Samantha Greenwald,  Production Associate: Rachel Stern, Sasha Nelson Production Intern: Emma Webb,  YouTube Consultants: Jason Al-Samarrie & Zac Stein, Post Production by TIMEWEAVER, Creative Director: F. Brian Scofield, ACE, Lead Editor: Noam Klement, Editors: Gray Clevenger, Geoff McGee. Graphic Designer: Noah Bell, Theme Music by Gabriel Mann, Performed by Jonah Platt

2. Juni 20261 h 16 min