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Episode 4 - Pat Gillen: Church Planting, Burnout, and the Identity No One Talks About

1 h 31 min · 18. März 2026
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This isn’t a highlight reel. It’s an honest conversation about ministry, identity, burnout, leadership, and what happens when calling costs more than you expected. Pat Gillen shares the real story behind church planting, team failure, resilience, family pressure, and learning to trust God when success disappears. No hype. No formulas. Just lived experience and hard-earned wisdom. If you’re leading, pastoring, planting, or wondering who you are when the work falls apart—this one’s for you.

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Episode Episode 9: Bridget Trammell's Journey Through Divorce, Addiction, and Calling Cover

Episode 9: Bridget Trammell's Journey Through Divorce, Addiction, and Calling

▶️ Connect with Heart To Mission: https://hearttomission.com ▶️ Check Out Bridget's Book "Trigger Warning" HERE: https://amzn.to/4w3j5Un ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ⏱️ CHAPTERS ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 0:00 - Intro 2:20 - Bridget's Book! 9:17 - Traveling and Singing Family 21:24 - The "Dream" 36:38 - Help for Those Seeking It... 40:48 - How will you respond? 1:05:20 - Leaving and Growing 1:09:20 - Becoming a Woman CEO 1:16:00 - Meeting Her New Husband 1:27:15 - Recognizing and Handling Triggers 1:45:44 - This Side of Things... 1:57:50 - Jesus Is Good ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 👥 ABOUT THE GUEST ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Dr. Bridget Trammell is a counselor, wife, mother,  speaker, and now an author of her Amazon best-seller "Trigger Warning"! Check her out at: https://www.drbridgettrammell.com ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🎙️ ABOUT HEART THE MISSION ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Heart To Mission exists to develop leaders who finish well: pastors, planters, and everyday people carrying real weight. We have honest conversations with leaders who have lived through the highs and lows of real life. #ChadMerrell #PastorStory #Redemption #NorthRockHillChurch #HeartTheMission #PastorPodcast #Christianity #Testimony

6. Juli 20262 h 0 min
Episode Episode 8- Walt Tanner: Going After the 60%: Walt Tanner on Planting a Church for the City Cover

Episode 8- Walt Tanner: Going After the 60%: Walt Tanner on Planting a Church for the City

Be the church, not just a church service. When Walt Tanner and Chris Barrineau moved into a Fountain Inn garage apartment on 08/08/08 — newborn in tow, both jobs left behind, house sold, no insurance, in the teeth of the Great Recession — people told them nobody wanted another church. Walt's answer became the heartbeat of everything that followed: "40% of the people love the churches here. There's 60% that'll never go there — and we're going after those 60." Seventeen years later, that conviction has reshaped a city. In this conversation, Josh and Walt go all the way back to the beginning — a country kid from Mauldin, an architecture degree from Clemson, and a mentor who taught him that an architect's job is "to create the vision, not build the vision." Along the way you'll hear: * The Brazil mission trip and the reflection-pond moment that redirected Walt from architecture to ministry * The (very persistent) love story of Walt and Betsy — and why March 4th is "the only command on the calendar" * "Double Trouble," a youth ministry full of "the wrong kind of kids," and the deacon conversation that sent Walt looking for a new field * Why Walt and Chris gave away their sound-system money to buy a struggling family a home * The Fountain Inn Egg Drop, helicopters, Chick-fil-A cows, and getting competing churches to actually work together * "Ghetto chic": five years in a 20,000-square-foot former grocery store with curtains for bathroom doors * The merger with 100-year-old Fairview Street Church — "Your church isn't dying. We're standing on your shoulders." — and Miss Diane's tears: "I'm just glad to see there's life here again." This one will preach. Listen, then go be the church. Join our email list at https://heartthemission.com [https://www.google.com/url?q=https://heartthemission.com&source=gmail&ust=1781002612076000&sa=E] for new episodes and leadership resources. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Cold open 01:33 Meet Walt Tanner - Betsy, 20 years, and the boys 05:53 17 years in Fountain Inn (it all started 08/08/08) 07:50 Growing up in Mauldin: the country, horses, and a blue-collar home 11:26 Old Greenville stories - Five Forks, the Reedy River, a Chevy Impala 14:13 Clemson architecture & Bob Ellis: "Create the vision, don't build it" 17:22 Called to ministry - Brazil, poverty, and a moment at the reflection pond 20:55 Clemson as a mission field: the Third Day logo and 9/11 24:39 The love story: the pump fake, the long pursuit, and March 4th 35:35 First youth ministry - "Double Trouble" and "the wrong kind of kids" 41:53 The North Augusta plant and the seeker/attractional years 43:13 Called back to plant something missional 46:05 Meeting Chris Barrineau - Youth Specialties, Saddleback & a rented convertible 51:04 Launching Capstone: going after the 60% 53:01 "Why another church here?" - what they chose to be known for 59:26 Serving the city: the school partnership that started it all 1:01:34 The Fountain Inn Egg Drop - helicopters and Chick-fil-A cows 1:05:16 Radical generosity: giving up the sound system to buy a family a home 1:09:45 "Ghetto chic" - five years in the old grocery store 1:13:23 Merging with 100-year-old Fairview Street Church 1:22:14 Miss Diane: "I'm just glad to see there's life here again" 1:24:16 Advice to church planters: "Where does there need to be more light?" 1:27:01 Josh's gift - a 1978 Case knife and a blessing

8. Juni 20261 h 31 min
Episode Episode 7- Chad Merrell: I Should Not Be a Pastor Cover

Episode 7- Chad Merrell: I Should Not Be a Pastor

Chad Merrell should not be a pastor. He was a 22-year-old warehouse supervisor married to a full-blown opiate addict. He found his 3-year-old son locked out in ankle-deep snow, in a diaper, while his wife watched from the window upstairs. He lost his driver's license. He drank himself into oblivion every weekend his kids weren't with him. He was the guy in your church you'd quietly wish would stop showing up. Then his pastor and his dad called him within 16 hours of each other and told him the same thing: "It might be more sinful for you to stay than to leave." Then a Pennsylvania judge, in the most father-hostile family court in America, wrote him an airtight custody order so unprecedented it's now illegal to write. Then a hungover Saturday morning happened in a pool house in Pennsylvania, where a woman named Amy grabbed his face with both hands and prophesied that he would one day pastor God's people. Six years later, he was sitting in an auditorium when the pastor of First Baptist West Monroe announced, to him and everyone else, that he was their new recovery pastor. He had no idea. This is one of the most honest pastor stories we've ever put on this channel. If you've ever felt like your past disqualifies you, this episode is for you.

26. Mai 20261 h 41 min