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Breaking Through the Noise - Compilation - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 093

25 min · 22. Apr. 2026
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What does it actually take to reach buyers in a world where AI has flooded every inbox, gated white papers have lost their pull, and generic personalization is table stakes? In this special compilation episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson brings together five of the sharpest go-to-market minds from previous episodes to tackle one of the biggest disruptions in B2B today.  Kerry Cunningham dismantles the "blank slate fallacy" and explains how LLMs are reshaping mid-funnel evaluation. Kristina McMillan shares how one portfolio company used deep research AI to deliver CEO-to-CEO custom market reports at scale. Jacki Leahy makes the case that the bar for outreach has been permanently raised and argues for visceral empathy over automation. Sajag Chikarsal walks through how to build custom GPTs that compress days of BDR research into minutes, and Yossi Carmon makes a bold prediction: the next go-to-market frontier is authenticity, and old-school, high-touch tactics are making a comeback. Takeaways: * Stop treating buyers as blank slates. In established categories, buyers already know you and your competitors. Ungating content and building genuine preference beats form fills and self-promotion. * Use AI to deliver value before you ask for anything. Creating custom, account-specific research reports at scale is now achievable and far more effective than traditional cold outreach. * Recognize that generic AI personalization has a short shelf life. The bar for what counts as a "personalized" outreach has risen sharply; go-to-market teams need to match it with real resourcefulness and empathy. * Build AI efficiency behind the scenes for your sales teams. Automating meeting prep and account summaries can recover significant rep hours per week without requiring everyone to become a prompt engineer. * Develop a focused custom GPT library for ABM at scale. Targeted prompt systems trained on earnings reports, personas, and competitive data can give BDRs actionable intelligence in minutes rather than days. * Lean into authenticity as a strategic differentiator. As AI-generated content floods every channel, buyers are craving real, human, and experience-driven engagement. Word-of-mouth and high-touch tactics are regaining ground. Quote of the Show: * “The bar has been raised. Our creativity and resourcefulness also needs to be raised." — Jacki Leahy” Links: * Kerry Cunningham’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kerrycunningham [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerrycunningham/] * Kristina McMillan’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristinamcmillan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinamcmillan/]  * Jacki Leahy’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jackileahy [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackileahy/] * Sajag Chikarsal’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sajagchikarsal [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sajagchikarsal/] * Yossi Carmon’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/yossicarmon [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yossicarmon/] Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797]   * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q]  This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

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From Building AI Into How You Work, Not What You Sell - Tameem Hourani - Shift & Thrive - Episode #100

What does it take for a lifelong engineer to build a high-growth services firm on a foundation of radical transparency and relentless speed? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson sits down with Tameem Hourani, Founder and CEO of RapDev, a firm that helps enterprises modernize their technology environments with speed, automation, and best-in-class implementations. Named Datadog's Partner of the Year four times, RapDev has grown to over 130 people since its founding in 2019. Tameem shares the hard lessons of scaling sales as a technical founder, why he wired transparency into RapDev from day one, and how bold hiring decisions made with less money in the bank than a new employee's salary turned out to be the best bets he ever made. He also breaks down how RapDev thinks about AI, not as a standalone offering but as a way of working woven into every part of the business. Takeaways: ~ Recognize when your automation mindset has limits. Sales requires human bandwidth at scale; identify the ceiling you're hitting by looking at deal volume per quarter, not just revenue. ~ Stay on the front lines as a founder-seller. Your credibility comes from having lived your customer's problems; no workflow replaces that context. ~ Make AI a way of working, not a product or a job title. Embed it across sales, engineering, and project management before trying to sell it to customers. ~ Hire ahead of your comfort zone when you know someone is the right person. Staying conservative with headcount will limit your growth faster than the financial risk will. ~ Give every employee a financial stake in the outcome. Ownership creates accountability without requiring top-down enforcement. ~ Lead with transparency, especially on big decisions. Keeping investors, lawyers, and leadership conversations in the open builds trust and eliminates surprises. ~ Soften directness without losing honesty. The hardest edges of early-career confidence often slow you down more than they help. Quote of the Show: * “The success of building a company comes from not having a safety net and pushing your comfort zone, and never getting comfortable. If you stay comfortable and you're staying conservative, you're never gonna grow. You're never gonna push the boundaries. ” - Tameem Hourani Links: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani/]  * Website: https://www.rapdev.io/ [https://www.rapdev.io/]  * Email: tameem@rapdev.io [tameem@rapdev.io]  Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797]   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

10. Juni 202640 min
Episode Rethinking the GTM Playbook for the Modern Era - The Best of Season 2 - Shift & Thrive - # 099 Cover

Rethinking the GTM Playbook for the Modern Era - The Best of Season 2 - Shift & Thrive - # 099

Is your go-to-market strategy built for today's buyers, or are you still relying on playbooks that no longer work? In this special Best of Season 2 compilation, Natalie Nathanson brings together some of the most impactful conversations from founders, CMOs, operators, and investors who are redefining growth in the age of AI. It pulls together some of the season's most brilliant GTM strategists, fractional CMOs, and venture capitalists to discuss why the old playbooks are dead, how to uncover the true story behind your data, and what it takes to compete in an increasingly crowded and rapidly evolving market. Throughout the episode, guests share practical lessons on defining the right ICP, understanding the business impact behind pipeline metrics, and uncovering customer insights that data alone can't reveal. They also explore how organizations are scaling marketing teams with AI, leveraging untraditional tactics like influencer pods and community-led growth, and using category creation to establish market leadership. Whether you're a founder, CEO, marketer, or revenue leader, this episode offers actionable strategies for building a smarter, more modern go-to-market engine. Takeaways: * Not all pipeline is good pipeline. Generating revenue opportunities means little if they are coming from the wrong ICP and leading to poor retention. * Customer research should go beyond the dashboard. Speaking directly with users can uncover insights that data alone might miss. * Adopt a test-and-iterate mindset. The strongest go-to-market shifts often start with small experiments before evolving into larger strategic changes. * Rethink traditional demand generation channels. B2B influencer networks, community-building, and free tools are becoming powerful alternatives to expensive paid channels. * Category creation doesn't happen by accident. Leaders must intentionally name, frame, and claim their market position if they want to become the category leader. * Scale teams thoughtfully in the age of AI. Many leaders are finding they can accomplish more with smaller teams, strategic freelancers, and AI-enabled workflows. * Break down the wall between sales and marketing. Giving marketers exposure to the sales process creates stronger alignment, better leads, and more effective go-to-market execution. Quote of the Show: * “If you are an executive in the room, you have to understand ICP. It's not a marketing job, a sales job, or a customer success job. Understanding your top segments is an executive responsibility.” — Sangram Vajre Links: * Sangram’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/]  * David’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidaxler [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidaxler]   * Scott’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsbrown7/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsbrown7/]  * Stephen’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-ochs-mba-1681ba19/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-ochs-mba-1681ba19/]  * Kat’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kat-wendelstadt-gtm/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kat-wendelstadt-gtm/]  * Cheryl’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryljordanaguilera/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryljordanaguilera/]  * Elena’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/elena-gantvarg-1a9423 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-gantvarg-1a9423/]  Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797]   * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q]  This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

3. Juni 202631 min
Episode Bottling the Founder Sale: From Visionary to Scalable Engine - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 098 Cover

Bottling the Founder Sale: From Visionary to Scalable Engine - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 098

Scaling out of founder-led sales is one of the most critical, yet deeply misunderstood transitions any B2B company will ever face. In the early days, no one sells the vision better than the founder. The passion, the relationships, and the storytelling instinct all lives with the person who built the thing. But as companies mature, the scrappy hustle that fueled early growth eventually stops working, and that inflection point demands a different approach entirely.  In this special compilation episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson brings together some of the sharpest voices ever featured on the show to unpack the necessity of early founder sales, the often-overlooked difference between founder market fit and product market fit, and the principle that separates companies that scale well from those that stall: the goal is to bottle the founder's magic, not replace it with a professional sales hire and hope for the best. Takeaways: ~ Every founder must learn to sell, whether it comes naturally or not. Discomfort in early sales is temporary; the cost of avoiding it entirely is far greater. ~ Founder market fit and product market fit are not the same thing. Closing deals yourself does not mean a sales team will replicate that success without intentional structure and knowledge transfer. ~ Bottling the founder sale means teaching your sellers to become storytellers. Sellers who lead with features lose; those who learn to communicate your origin, mission, and vision the way a founder would win. ~ Heroic efforts get you to the first phase of growth, but they cannot scale. Transitioning to process, data, and smart infrastructure is essential before those early tactics stop working entirely. ~ Folklore debt accumulates when companies hold onto stories of past success that no longer apply. Leaders must actively replace those narratives with ones that reflect where the company is going, not where it has been. ~ RevOps and sales infrastructure should follow revenue signals, not precede them. Knowing when you actually need that investment, and going fractional until you do, prevents costly over-hiring and organizational drag. Quote of the Show: * “ There are periods of time that are clearly different. What are the stories that are associated with each one of those? I think it's important for companies to celebrate those stories. You don't want to dismiss them or just get rid of them. You have to have a trophy case where you take that great founder story or the heroic campaign that got us our first 10 million. You put it in the trophy case and then you move on and find the stories about how you become a $250 million company or the $500 million company.” - Kerry Cunningham Links: * Sanjay Manandhar: linkedin.com/in/sanjaymanandhar [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjaymanandhar/]  * Saket Saurabh: linkedin.com/in/sakets [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sakets/] * Pete Martin: linkedin.com/in/pete-martin-b2199334 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-martin-b2199334/]  * Kerry Cunningham: linkedin.com/in/kerrycunningham [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerrycunningham/]  * Jacki Leahy: linkedin.com/in/jackileahy [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackileahy/]  * Richard Walker: linkedin.com/in/quikformsceo [https://www.linkedin.com/in/quikformsceo/]  * Haseeb Budhani: linkedin.com/in/budhani [https://www.linkedin.com/in/budhani/]  * Tameem Hourani: linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani/]  Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797] This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

27. Mai 202632 min
Episode Why B2B Deals Stall and How to Fix It - Paul Terry - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 97 Cover

Why B2B Deals Stall and How to Fix It - Paul Terry - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 97

What does it actually take to lead a commercial transformation before anyone else believes in it, and what happens when the biggest threat to closing a deal is not your competitor, but your buyer's fear of being wrong? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson sits down with Paul Terry, global go-to-market leader, advisor, and investor at Tech Operators, who brings over 25 years of experience building and scaling international sales teams. Paul shares the hard-earned lessons from leading one of the earliest social selling rollouts at Forrester Research in 2012, before LinkedIn Sales Navigator was even a household name. He and Natalie dig into the evolution of B2B buyer behavior, the FOMU (fear of messing up) phenomenon that is quietly killing deals, and the practical frameworks Paul uses today when advising early and mid-stage tech founders on ICP, international expansion, and go-to-market clarity. Candid, grounded, and full of real examples, this conversation is one every GTM leader and founder needs to hear. Takeaways: *  Pre-wire your frontline managers before rolling out any change initiative. They are the culture carriers closest to your team, and without their buy-in, even the best ideas will land in silence. * Overcommunicate through multiple channels and formats until it feels repetitive to you. The audience receiving the message needs far more repetition than the leader driving the change. * Recognize that today's buyers fear making the wrong call far more than they fear inaction. Shift your sales motion at the right moment from urgency-driving to comfort-building, and use social proof, peer dinners, and transparent risk conversations to help buyers feel safe saying yes. * Narrow your ICP down to a specific wedge before expanding. Targeting everyone is functionally the same as targeting no one, and trying to go broad too soon is one of the most common and costly go-to-market mistakes founders make. * Build product-market fit and repeatability in a core market before expanding internationally. Have a proven motion, a defined ICP, and a scalable operation before paying the tax of internationalization. * When entering new markets globally, standardize your operations at the corporate level but hire and trust local expertise for that last-mile cultural execution. One size will lose you business; total localization will prevent scale. * The fuse is lit the day you say yes. Whether you are joining a PE-backed company or any scaling business, leaders are brought in to fix something, and the expectation for change starts immediately. Quote of the Show: * “Feel the fear and do it anyway. There are a lot of decisions in our lives that can instill uncertainty and fear, but just because we’re afraid of them, that’s not a good enough reason not to do them.” Links: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-terry/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-terry/]  * Website: https://www.techoperators.com/ [https://www.techoperators.com/]  Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797]   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

20. Mai 202648 min
Episode 8 Questions Every CEO Must Answer - Sangram Vajre - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 096 (Re-air) Cover

8 Questions Every CEO Must Answer - Sangram Vajre - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 096 (Re-air)

What if the reason your go-to-market isn't working has nothing to do with your tactics and everything to do with how your leadership team defines, owns, and executes it in the first place? In this Re-air episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson is joined by Sangram Vajre, Co-Founder and CEO of GTM Partners, bestselling author of Move, and pioneer of account-based marketing, for a candid conversation on what it really means to build go-to-market as a company-wide operating system. Together, they explore why GTM must live at the CEO level, how the eight-question GTM operating system drives clarity across every stage of business growth, and what it looks like when AI is layered on top of strategic foundations versus used as a shortcut around them.  Takeaways: * GTM is a transformational process, not a one-time plan. Treat every go-to-market decision as ongoing and iterative rather than the output of a single off-site or strategy session. * Build clarity, alignment, and trust before deploying tactics. These three leadership fundamentals are what separate executive teams that execute well from those that stay stuck in misalignment, regardless of tools or AI adoption. * Use the GTM operating system's eight questions to anchor strategy at every stage. The questions stay the same across problem-market, product-market, and platform-market fit; only the answers change as your business evolves. * Focus on what is unchangeable in go-to-market: being better, faster, or cheaper for your customer. In a world drowning in new tools and tactics, anchoring to these constants creates durable competitive positioning. * Understand the business of your function, not just the function itself. Whether you are in marketing, sales, or customer success, the leaders who grow fastest are the ones who understand the business economics behind their discipline. Quote of the Show: * “ Once you start looking at go-to-market as a transformational process, you recognize that every time you make a go-to-market decision, it will transform your business, one way or the other. It's an ongoing process, and there's no finality in it.” Links: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/]   * Website: https://gtmpartners.com/ [https://gtmpartners.com/]   * GTM Monday: https://gtmonday.substack.com/ [https://gtmonday.substack.com/]   Ways to Tune In: * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb [https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb]  * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813]  * Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change]  * iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501]  * Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797 [https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797]   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com [https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com]

13. Mai 202653 min