Stella Christie, Vice Minister of Higher Education, Science and Technology, Indonesia

Christian Brändli, Head of Private Sector Development, SECO & Daniel Uribe, Executive Director, Fundación Corona, Colombia

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Christian Brändli Head of Private Sector Development at the Swiss State Secretary for Economic Affairs (SECO), and Daniel Uribe, Director at Fundación Corona Colombia,. This is the second in a series of 4 episodes sponsored by EOF to explore how innovative financing is reshaping education and skills systems at a time of fiscal constraints. This second episode focuses on linking financing to employment outcomes, specifically looking at how governments can ensure skills development translates into real-world jobs as labor markets evolve. Christian and Daniel discuss the mismatch between private sector demand and current education supply, the necessity of building internal government capacity to transition from paying for inputs to paying for verified employment results, and share examples of success from impactful programs in Colombia, South Africa, and Morocco. They also reflect on the challenge of using data to track job placement and retention while simultaneously advocating for flexible, micro-credentialed learning pathways to better align with the rapid pace of the modern market

Amel Karboul, CEO Education Outcomes Fund & Eunice Ogolo, Director of Girl Capital Africa. Children's Investment Fund Foundation

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Amel Karboul Amel Karboul, CEO of the Education Outcomes Fund (EOF), and Eunice Ogolo Director of Girls Capital Africa at the Children's Investment Fund Foundation (CIFF). This is the first in a series of 4 episodes sponsored by EOF to explore how innovative financing is reshaping education and skills systems at a time of fiscal constraints. This first episode sets the context by highlighting the shift toward outcome-based financing and initiatives aimed at aligning incentives around verified results to empower children and young people as they transition into the labor market. Amel and Eunice discuss the evidence of success from impactful programs in India and Sierra Leone, the necessity of building internal government capacity for sophisticated "financial engineering," share examples of how system-wide accountability can ensure children actually learn, and reflect on the challenge of managing shrinking fiscal space and rising debt while simultaneously improving the quality and effectiveness of foundational learning,

Pia Britto, Global Director of Education, UNICEF

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Pia Britto, UNICEF Global Director of Education. Britto reflects on the challenge of a global education crisis where three-quarters of children are being failed, highlighting a typology of learning failures, denied, disrupted, and delayed, and initiatives aimed at establishing a "future ready" model centered on equity and 21st-century skills. She discusses the findings of UNICEF’s work across 144 countries, the necessity of gender inclusivity through digital and STEM skills, and the impact of human-centered AI. Finally, she explores the value of EWF for fostering international partnerships, sharing examples of how the forum facilitates collective action and turns global dialogue into practical results for the most marginalized children.

Dana Morris Dixon, Minister for Education, Skills, Youth and Information, Jamaica

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Dana Morris Dixon, Minister for Education, Skills, Youth and Information of Jamaica. Minister Morris Dixon reflects on the challenge of building systemic resilience against climate change following the devastation of Hurricane Melissa while navigating the rapid evolution of AI, highlighting the modernization of technical high schools and initiatives aimed at integrating STEAM methodology across the curriculum to empower young people as producers of technology rather than just consumers. She discusses the critical prioritization of early childhood education to establish a strong foundation, the implementation of the National School Nutrition Policy to support students from food-insecure households, and the value of EWF for fostering international dialogue and sharing lessons from global peers to avoid "reinventing the wheel"

Jonathan Dewsbury, former Director for Education Estates and Net Zero, DfE, England and Eliska Gooch, Youth Sustainability Champion

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Jonathan Dewsbury, former Director for Education Estates and Net Zero at the Department for Education (DfE) in England, and Eliska Gooch a Youth Sustainability Champion. Jonathan reflects on the strategic integration of environmental stewardship within the UK education system, highlighting how the DfE’s Sustainability and Climate Change Strategy aims to embed sustainability across the curriculum, careers, and the physical education estate to prepare for a net-zero economy. He discusses the success of the National Education Nature Park in reconnecting learners with nature and the Climate Ambassadors Network’s unique approach to providing schools with expert-led, technical support for climate action planning. Eliska explores the transformative role of youth voice in policy-making, acting as a bridge between students and government ministers to ensure climate education is both meaningful and empowering, sharing her experience as a Youth Sustainability Champion