Prison Pals and The Final Hours

There Are No Good Billionaires with Tim Schwab

What are the ties that bind men like Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein? Investigative journalist and author Tim Schwab joins the show to explain the various and unsavory ways that Gates and Epstein were connected, details from the Gates testimony before the House Oversight committee and the new questions it raises, and the risks of an unregulated world of private philanthropy. Mentioned in this episode Tim Schwab on Substack [https://timschwab.substack.com/about] The Bill Gates Problem: Reckoning with the Myth of the Good Billionaire [https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250291431/thebillgatesproblem/] by Tim Schwab Bill Gates testimony at House Oversight transcript [https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Bill-Gates-Transcript.pdf] Fortune: [https://fortune.com/2026/05/09/jeffrey-epstein-international-peace-institute-ipi-gates-foundation/] How Jeffrey Epstein leveraged a prestigious U.N.-affiliated nonprofit—and the Gates Foundation—to control women and keep them in his orbit BBC [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jy8v0ge66o]: Bill Gates said Epstein Wanted a Relationship People [https://people.com/human-interest/bill-gates-had-spoken-with-jeffrey-epstein-about-his-nobel-prize-ambitions-source/]: Bill Gates Had 'Spoken' with Jeffrey Epstein About His Nobel Prize Ambitions: Source WSJ [https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-epstein-inserted-himself-in-a-split-between-bill-gates-and-a-top-gates-adviser-6d8fca69]: How Epstein Inserted Himself Into a Split Between Bill Gates and a Top Gates Adviser Drop Site [https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/epstein-sensitive-military-intelligence-bill-gates-pakistan-polio]: Epstein Received Sensitive Military Intelligence Amid Gates Foundation Polio Campaign in Pakistan Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Deadline for the DOJ with Anne P. Mitchell

The deadline has come for the Justice Department to release more files related to Jeffrey Epstein, after a federal judge concluded that acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is violating the Epstein Files Transparency Act. This ruling came as a result of a lawsuit brought by Katie Phang, a lawyer and political commentator, and on this week’s show, Jena and Elise are joined by lawyer Anne P. Mitchell to explain the 44-page order from the judge, and what comes next in the push for more transparency and accountability.  Mentioned in this episode The Hill [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5943060-leon-black-subpoenaed-epstein-ndas/]: James Comer Issues Two Subpoenas to Leon Black, on NDAs ABC News [https://abcnews.com/US/doug-band-former-aide-bill-clinton-questioned-clintons/story?id=134313410]: Doug Band at House Oversight NYT [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/29/us/politics/supreme-court-trump-sexual-assault.html]: Supreme Court Lets $5 Million Sex Abuse Verdict Against Trump Stand WSJ [https://www.wsj.com/business/warren-buffet-gates-foundation-epstein-2290ef61]: Buffett Skips Midyear Donation to Gates Foundation Katie Phang explains the ruling in her favor [https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1ufqi8o/katie_phang_on_the_latest_in_her_ongoing/] Anne P. Mitchell’s Notes from the Front Substack [https://annepmitchell.substack.com/] Judge Sullivan’s 44-page ruling [https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.291779/gov.uscourts.dcd.291779.16.0_1.pdf] Call your reps with 5Calls.org [http://5calls.org] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Everyone's Named, Now What? Conspiracy, She Wrote Cross-Post

The full transcript of House Oversight's interview of Lesley Groff, the woman Epstein called his "right-hand," is now available. Jena offers a recap. Then, in a cross-post from the Conspiracy She Wrote podcast, Elise and Jena share the backstory of bringing this podcast to life, what keeps them going, and what to make of all the women who explicitly and implicitly aided in Epstein's decades of abuse and trafficking. Mentioned in this Episode Conspiracy, She Wrote [https://open.spotify.com/show/4Z1xAOdDQXaG4hFB0A99bS]with Cristen Conger Lesley Groff's testimony [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-house-transcripts-of-bill-gates-and-lesley-groffs-interviews-in-epstein-probe]at House Oversight Bill Gates [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-house-transcripts-of-bill-gates-and-lesley-groffs-interviews-in-epstein-probe] at House Oversight Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Epstein's Fixer, Michael Wolff

Nearly 2,000 emails between writer Michael Wolff and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein reveal the inner dynamics of their close relationship, and the way that Wolff managed Epstein's public reputation all while maintaining a reputation as a "journalist." Also, researcher Ellie Leonard scrutinizes the giant block of time that's missing from the DOJ's public files, and the curious relationship between Epstein and the Saudis. Mentioned in this episode NYT [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/06/16/magazine/jeffrey-epstein-death-final-days.html]: The Untold Story of Epstein’s Death NYT [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/magazine/trump-epstein-files-white-house-vance-doj.html]: Inside the White House Freakout Over the Epstein Files Regime Change, [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Regime-Change/Maggie-Haberman/9781668067246] by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan Bloomberg: [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-30/jeffrey-epstein-weighed-buying-private-jet-from-apollo-s-rowan] Epstein Weighed Buying a Plane from Apollo’s Mark Rowan Front Page Detectives [https://frontpagedetectivesonline.substack.com/p/trumps-intelligence-pick-hit-by-epstein]: Jay Clayton nomination and his ties to Epstein EFBC: William Cohan episode on Leon Black [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/flings-of-leon-black/id1875137601?i=1000761953457] CNN [https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/15/politics/jeffrey-epstein-victims-comer-meeting-doj]: Survivors meet with James Comer, push for investigating leads The Nerve [https://www.thenerve.news/p/jeffrey-epstein-michael-wolff-emails-files-new-york-relation]: Curious Connection between Michael Wolff and Jeffrey Epstein (Ellie Leonard's piece) ship-filthy-rich The Epstein Files by Julie K Brown [https://jkbjournalist.substack.com/], on Substack Blue Amp Media [https://substack.com/@blueamp] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

FSB Femmes? With Scott Stedman

What do the files show about Jeffrey Epstein's ties to The Kremlin? Investigative journalist Scott Stedman of The Newsground joins the show to share what he's found after following the records and the money. We explore the stories of two Russian women who appear thousands of times in the files, but have escaped heavy media scrutiny. One, Svetlana Pozhidaeva, a longtime Epstein gatekeeper , and the other, Kira Dikhtyar, who's linked to Vladmir Putin’s longtime mistress. Mentioned in this episode The Newsground [https://thenewsground.com/reporting/] Politico: Leslie Groff testifies [https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/06/09/congress/trump-and-epsteins-phone-calls-00954798] People: Bill Gates says Epstein tried to blackmail him over affairs [https://people.com/bill-gates-says-epstein-tried-to-blackmail-him-over-his-infidelity-to-melinda-as-he-testifies-to-congress-11994473] Washington Post: This agent sent models to meet Epstein [https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/06/08/this-agent-sent-models-meet-jeffrey-epstein-now-hes-trying-explain-why/] Reuters: Epstein abused them, the Justice Department exposed them [https://www.reuters.com/investigations/epstein-abused-them-justice-department-exposed-them-now-theyre-under-attack-by-2026-06-08/] Newsground: Epstein Insider Revealed as Daughter of FSB Translator [https://thenewsground.com/epstein-insider-revealed-as-daughter-of-fsb-translator-who-held-sensitive-russian-government-security-jobs/] Newsground: Russian Model Procured Dozens of Young Women for Epstein [https://thenewsground.com/kira-dikhtyar-jeffrey-epstein-recruiter/] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]