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#040 - When Poems Become Spells: Shadow Work & Ritual Magic with Lisa Marie Basile

1 h 13 min · 17. Mai 2026
Episode #040 - When Poems Become Spells: Shadow Work & Ritual Magic with Lisa Marie Basile Cover

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What if poetry is spell-work? In this episode, Lisa Marie Basile — author of The Magical Writing Grimoire and Saint of — reveals how automatic writing, shadow work, and ritual practice can unlock deeper creativity and transform personal darkness into resonant art.Nathan and Lisa explore the alchemical intersection of poetry, the occult, and intentionality: from bibliomancy and Italian folk magic to the Jungian "black light" of the subconscious. Basile's maximalist, baroque approach to verse treats language itself as magic — a threshold between the conscious mind and the mysterious, liminal forces that drive powerful writing.Whether you're a poet, a spiritual seeker, or a writer looking for new creative techniques, this conversation will change how you write poetry. 👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/signup🦋 MORE ABOUT LISA MARIE BASILE:Her website: https://www.lisamariebasile.com/ Luna Luna Magazine: https://www.lunalunamagazine.com/Her book, Saint Of: https://amzn.to/4wnXFm1 (also available on her website)All books: https://www.lisamariebasile.com/saint-of MORE POETRY VESSEL:🙏 JOIN OUR PATREON:https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY:https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT):https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain👉 EVERYTHING ELSE:https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall📌 CHAPTERS:0:00:00 - Introduction: Drenching Poetry in Magic0:01:20 - Lisa Marie Basile: From Fiction to Poetry0:04:30 - Maximalism and Baroque Style in Modern Poetry0:07:30 - Influences: Anaïs Nin and Latin American Poetry0:09:50 - The Threshold: Spiritual Petitions in Verse0:12:40 - Poetry Reading: "Saint of Tenebrous Things"0:15:30 - Shadow Work: Using Darkness as Creative Fuel0:17:15 - Tarot and the Tower Archetype in Creative Writing0:19:40 - How to Practice Bibliomancy for Creative Inspiration0:24:20 - Language as Magic: Writing for Higher Consciousness0:30:50 - The Ritual of Reading Poetry Aloud0:33:15 - Poetry Reading: "Saint of Ecstasy"0:40:40 - Building a Poetry Collection: World-Making on the Page0:45:50 - Italian Folk Magic and Ancestral Traditions in Writing0:58:15 - Poetry Reading: "Saint of Reconstruction"1:03:00 - How to Write Occult and Esoteric Poetry1:12:30 - Creativity as an Act of DevotionPODCAST DISCLAIMER:The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast.FTC DISCLAIMER:Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you!

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Episode #048 - School Makes Students Hate Poetry. Here’s Why. Cover

#048 - School Makes Students Hate Poetry. Here’s Why.

Why do so many people say, "I don't like poetry"? In this episode of The Poetry Vessel Podcast, Malibu Poet Laureate Emeritus Nathan Hassall and I/O Psych expert Rachael Hassall dig into why so many people leave school hating poetry, and how to learn how to love reading poetry again. 👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY & WRITING WORKSHOPS: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/signup If school or bad English teachers ruined creative writing and poetry analysis for you, you aren't alone. Today, we unpack the classroom myths that strip modern poetry of its joy, explore the neuroscience of why the human brain is wired for rhythm, meter, and rhyme, and look at what Dead Poets Society understood about the power of art that traditional education missed. Whether you are looking for poetry for beginners, trying to figure out how to write a poem, or want to understand the healing power of memorizing great spoken word and classical poems for mental health, this conversation is your way back in. Nathan shares his personal experiences teaching poetry to kids in California, an unorthodox dancing tip to unlock how to write poetry with better creative flow, and how to embrace the orality of poetry in nature. Drop a comment below to participate in our live word-association experiment! EVERYTHING ELSE: 👉 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall 🙏 SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel 📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit 🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT): https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain 📌 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Why Do People Hate Poetry? 00:40 - The School Myth: "There's Only One Right Meaning" 01:26 - How the Joy Gets Stripped Out of Poetry 02:07 - Teaching Poetry to Kids: Using William Blake's "The Tiger" 04:13 - The Neuroscience of Poetry: Why We're Wired for Meter and Rhyme 07:11 - How Passionate Teachers Change Everything (& Dead Poets Society) 09:37 - Overcoming the Fear of Feeling Stupid About Poetry 11:31 - Live Reading: "Sailing to Byzantium" by W.B. Yeats 12:57 - Can Memorizing Great Poems Heal the Mind? 16:20 - The Viral Poetry Tip: Just Dance! 21:16 - Shel Silverstein and the Gift of Poetry 23:46 - Actionable Tips: How to Bring Joy Back into Poetry 25:09 - Learning the Art of Attention in Nature 25:56 - Is It Okay to Still Not Like Poetry? PODCAST DISCLAIMER: The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast. FTC DISCLAIMER: Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you! #Poetry #HowToWriteAPoem #CreativeWriting #DeadPoetsSociety #ThePoetryVessel

12. Juli 202627 min
Episode #047 - Top 5 Poetry Anthology Books Every Poet Should Read Cover

#047 - Top 5 Poetry Anthology Books Every Poet Should Read

Looking for great poetry anthologies? We have something for you. -👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/signup Discover the best poetry anthology books to expand your literary horizons and inspire your own creative writing practice. In this episode, practicing poet and Malibu Poet Laureate, Nathan Hassall, narrows down his top five poetry collections alongside two incredible bonus recommendations that span centuries, cultures, and continents. From Harold Bloom’s exhaustive thousand-page collection of classic English verse to Jerome Rothenberg’s iconic compilation of tribal and sacred writings, Nathan and Rachael share how deep-diving into diverse anthologies provides immense imaginative richness. They explore international translations, the visionary work of mystics like Blake and Rumi, and the crucial preservation of endangered languages through verse. Whether you are looking for structural doorways into writing or want to join a thriving online poetry community, these curated book recommendations will illuminate your reading list and elevate your craft. 📚 BOOKS MENTIONED: 1. The Best Poems of the English Language: From Chaucer Through Robert Frost by Harold Bloom - https://amzn.to/4vCAKC8 2. Doorways to Poetry by Louis Untermeyre - https://amzn.to/3S2itjc 3. A Book Of Luminous Things: An International Anthology of Poetry by Czeslaw Milosz https://amzn.to/3QA5jJO 4. Holy Fire: Nine Visionary Poets and the Quest for Enlightenment by Daniel Halpern https://amzn.to/4e4zMc6 5. Technicians of the Sacred: A Range of Poetries from Africa, America, Asia, Europe and Oceania by Jerome Rothenberg - https://amzn.to/4xsVLkG 6. (BONUS) Women in Praise of the Sacred: 43 Centuries of Spiritual Poetry by Women by Jane Hirshfield - https://amzn.to/49PF2Oi 7. (BONUS) Poems from the Edge of Extinction: An Anthology of Poetry in Endangered Languages by Chris McCabe - https://amzn.to/43pa3VD EVERYTHING ELSE: 👉 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall 📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit 🙏 SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel ✍️ POETRY WORKSHOP WAITLIST: https://www.nathanhassall.com/workshopwaitlist 🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT): https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain 🦋 OVERCOME CREATIVE FRUSTRATION WITH OUR NEW ONLINE WORKSHOP - LIMITED SPACES: https://tinyurl.com/TPV-Poetry-Workshop 📌 CHAPTERS: 0:00:00 Why Reading Poetry Anthologies Elevates Your Creative Writing 0:00:50 Best Book Pick #5 0:02:02 Best Book Pick #4 0:03:05 Best Book Pick #3 0:04:06 Why Visionary Poetry and Mystic Sages Spark Deeper Imagination 0:04:11 Best Book Pick #2 0:05:36 What is the Ultimate Anthology for Sacred and Tribal Writing? 0:05:41 Best Book Pick #1 0:06:20 How Browsing Used Bookstores Leads to Rare Literary Finds 0:07:46 Bonus Best Book Pick #6 0:08:24 Best Book Pick #7 0:09:18 Why Keeping Well-Loved Books Alive Strengthens the Global Poetic Tradition PODCAST DISCLAIMER: The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast. FTC DISCLAIMER: Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you!

5. Juli 20269 min
Episode #046 - How Listening Makes You a Better Poet Cover

#046 - How Listening Makes You a Better Poet

👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/signup 🦋 OVERCOME CREATIVE FRUSTRATION WITH OUR NEW ONLINE WORKSHOP - LIMITED SPACES:https://tinyurl.com/TPV-Poetry-WorkshopEVERYTHING ELSE: 👉 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall 📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit 🙏 SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel ✍️ POETRY WORKSHOP WAITLIST: https://www.nathanhassall.com/workshopwaitlist 🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT):https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain PODCAST DISCLAIMER:The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast.FTC DISCLAIMER:Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you!

28. Juni 202612 min
Episode #045 - The Secret of Occult Book Publishing with Anathema CEO Gabriel McCaughery Cover

#045 - The Secret of Occult Book Publishing with Anathema CEO Gabriel McCaughery

What's it like to get inside the mind of one of the most famous occult book publishers in the world? 👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT MORE: https://www.nathanhassall.com/the-poetry-vessel-podcast-with-gabriel-mccaughry In this captivating episode of The Poetry Vessel Podcast, host Nathan Hassall (Malibu Poet Laureate Emeritus '23-'25) sits down with the visionary founder and CEO of Anathema Publishing, Gabriel McCaughry to explore the deep intersection of poetry, alchemy, and perception. In this conversation, Gabriel pulls back the curtain on how he risked everything to start his business with just C$6,000, the profound traveling experiences in Laos that inspired the birth of his company, and the secrets behind the high-end, tactile art of fine and limited-edition bookmaking. We dive into how creative writing and poetic language can help us process trauma, gain healthy distance from suffering, and write from a selfless place, and his his highly anticipated upcoming book introducing his new concept: "para-alchemy." Whether you're interested in creative writing tips, Jungian psychology, spiritual alchemy, or the philosophy behind powerful storytelling, this episode offers a profound look at how perception itself becomes the alchemical vessel. 📖 Learn More about Gabriel McCaughry: - Gabriel's LinkTree: https://shorturl.at/pkTbU - (h)Auroræ by Gabriel McCaughry - https://www.anathemapublishing.com/archives/p/h-aurorae EVERYTHING ELSE: 👉 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall 📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit 🙏 SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel ✍️ POETRY WORKSHOP WAITLIST: https://www.nathanhassall.com/workshopwaitlist 🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT): https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain 🦋 OVERCOME CREATIVE FRUSTRATION WITH OUR NEW ONLINE WORKSHOP - LIMITED SPACES: https://tinyurl.com/TPV-Poetry-Workshop 📌 CHAPTERS: 0:00:00 – Who is Gabriel McCaughry? 0:01:22 – From graphic design to indie publishing: Gabriel's creative journey 0:04:40 – The spiritual pilgrimage to Laos and the origin of the Anathema logo 0:14:45 – The hidden linguistic and musical origin behind the name "Anathema" 0:17:53 – Carl Jung's Red Book as a masterpiece of visionary art and Jungian psychology 0:20:00 – "Paralchemy": Gabriel's spiritual framework for perception and transformation 0:30:46 – How to find the right poetic language to express a clear image 0:42:41 – Why alchemy is the "royal art" above all creative practices 0:47:52 – EXCLUSIVE: A sneak peek into Gabriel's upcoming book... 1:00:40 – How poetry creates healthy distance from personal trauma through defamiliarization 1:03:04 – Why focusing on one precise image creates more powerful writing 1:11:07 – Poetry as catharsis: finding beauty in suffering like a lotus in mud 1:18:56 – The three-fold intent behind Gabriel's first book, Ouroboros 1:25:50 – Identity as an artist: why "what do you do?" is the wrong question PODCAST DISCLAIMER: The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast. FTC DISCLAIMER: Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you!

21. Juni 20261 h 38 min
Episode #044 - Writing Poetry is Frustrating (Why That's A Good Thing) Cover

#044 - Writing Poetry is Frustrating (Why That's A Good Thing)

Why is writing a poem so FRUSTRATING?!🦋 OVERCOME CREATIVE FRUSTRATION WITH OUR NEW ONLINE WORKSHOP🦋https://tinyurl.com/TPV-Poetry-Workshop(Limited workshop spaces so act fast)The poetry writing process is harder than anyone tells you — and that creative frustration is exactly where great poems are born.In this video, Malibu Poet Laureate Emeritus, Nathan Hassall, and his I/O psych expert wife Rachael explore why feeling stuck during poetry editing is a natural part of the craft, touching on Carl Jung’s ideas about the visible mental struggles within great literature. Whether you're wrestling with word choice, rhythm, line breaks, or the gap between the brilliant idea in your head and the language on the page, this conversation reframes creative struggle as your greatest asset in creative writing.👉 JOIN OUR FREE POETRY COMMUNITY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/signupEVERYTHING ELSE: 👉 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nathanhassall📜 SUBMIT YOUR POETRY: https://www.thepoetryvessel.com/submit🙏 SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/cw/ThePoetryVessel✍️ POETRY WORKSHOP WAITLIST: https://www.nathanhassall.com/workshopwaitlist🧠 HOW POETRY CHANGES YOUR BRAIN COURSE (LIMITED TIME DISCOUNT): https://www.nathanhassall.com/changeyourbrain📌 CHAPTERS:0:00:00 Why Creative Frustration is Essential for Poets0:00:23 What Makes the Poetry Editing Process So Difficult?0:01:11 How Word Choice and Condensation Create Poetic Resonance0:01:53 How to Balance Rhythm, Sound, and Line Breaks in a Poem0:02:17 How Poets Guide Reader Emotions and Interpretations0:03:08 What Are the Biggest Challenges When Starting or Ending a Poem?0:03:39 How to Write Better Poem Beginnings Using Intriguing Imagery0:05:01 How to Master Poetic Closure and Avoid Ending Too Late0:06:23 Why Embracing Frustration Leads to Better Poetry Writing0:07:38 What Causes the Gap Between a Poetic Idea and the Page?0:08:34 How Poetry Workshops Facilitate Healing and Growth0:10:22 Why Metaphors Transform Heavy Emotions Into Beautiful Art0:12:40 What the Structural Turn (Volta) Teaches Us About Perspective0:13:24 How Reading Great Poems Elevates Creative Conversations0:14:59 Why Genuine Artistic Reward Requires Effort Over AI ShortcutsPODCAST DISCLAIMER:The views, opinions, discussions, and statements expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and are intended to represent their personal opinions and perspectives. Listener discretion is advised. The Poetry Vessel is not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information presented and disclaims any liability arising from the use of or reliance on any information presented in this podcast.FTC DISCLAIMER:Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means that if you click on them we may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. The commission is paid by the retailers, at no cost to you, and this helps to support our channel and keep our videos free. Thank you!

14. Juni 202616 min