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episode Ep 9. How Arielle Nissenblatt Built a Career in Podcasting From Scratch cover

Ep 9. How Arielle Nissenblatt Built a Career in Podcasting From Scratch

We spoke to self-described “audio and podcast person” Arielle Nissenblatt about distance running, the importance of trailers as a tool for onboarding new listeners, and her eleven-year journey from casual podcast consumer to one of the leading voices in the industry. She developed the idea for her first podcast newsletter, Earbuds [https://newsletter.earbuds.audio/], in 2017 while stuck in LA traffic. Eight years later, Arielle has led podcasting efforts at SquadCast.fm, Descript, The Podcast Academy, and more. Today, Arielle is Pinwheel's Director of Community and Content at Audily. 🎧 What we cover this episode: * Engaging soundbites to hook listeners quickly in your cold open. * Audio quality in long-form audio is paramount over visuals. * Keep your podcast structure and schedule consistent: elements like intro/outro/segment signposting will help retain engagement. * Text-based audio editing services like Descript can revolutionize your workflow if you want a lower barrier of entry into podcasting. Connect with Arielle on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arielle-nissenblatt-90348356/ Learn more about Arielle: https://www.ariellenissenblatt.com/ 📝 Episode Outline Introduction and Personal Background (00:00 - 06:18) Flo shares personal context about upcoming jaw surgery Introduction of guest Arielle, met at On Air Fest, with background at Descript, Castbox, Audily, and Squadcast Career Origins and Educational Background (06:18 - 09:02) Arielle shares childhood uncertainty about career direction Arielle's interest in international relations and conflict resolution developed in college Arielle studied geography in undergrad, drawn to Guinness Book of World Records and superlatives Human Evolution and Storytelling Discussion (09:02 - 13:03) Discussion of Born to Run by Christopher McDougall - humans evolved for distance running Exploration of humans’ unique capacity for storytelling, culture, and shared beliefs compared to other species Analysis of how stories, religion, and money as human constructs shape civilization Podcasting Appeal and Learning Styles (13:03 - 16:04) Discussion of audio learning advantages over visual learning for many people Arielle’s preference for audiobooks over traditional reading due to focus challenges Importance of audio quality over visual quality for storytelling content Career Entry into Podcasting Industry (16:04 - 20:12) Arielle started listening to podcasts in 2014, got first job in space around 2016 Started from zero connections by creating a newsletter about podcast recommendations in 2017. Early monetization through newsletter advertising and event ticket exchanges Descript Experience and Current Role (20:12 - 23:11) Arielle joined Descript through Squadcast acquisition, worked there for 1.5 years Current role as Director of Community and Content at Audily/Pinwheel podcast studio Podcast Format and Structure Best Practices (23:11 - 30:10) Discussion of intro/outro formats - scripted with music versus varied approaches Importance of consistent elements to orient listeners (familiar music, format) Cold open technique using compelling quotes from upcoming interview Essential elements: host name, show name, guest introduction, episode value proposition Signposting different segments throughout show for listener navigation Consideration for audio-only listeners when producing video podcasts Trailers, Marketing, and Audience Engagement (30:10 - 38:04) Podcast trailers as crucial onboarding and marketing tools Promise-delivery framework: tell audience what they’ll learn, teach them, confirm what they learned Rapid Fire Questions from On Air Fest This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

16. juni 2025 - 39 min
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Podcast Festival Highlights: Storytelling Tips, & Audio vs Video Debate | On Air Fest Recap - Ep 8.

(🎧 Listen on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/episode/3A1TaZwiDafCaDixOC3KGR?si=50c817d045154a76&nd=1&dlsi=2fea0842c9004053] or Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-8-voices-of-on-air-fest-2025/id1744976743?i=1000701629601].) Lauren Wingard and I had a blast at On Air Fest in Brooklyn last month. In these interviews, we cover everything from audience research to the ever-evolving debate between audio and video podcasting. Lauren and I reflect on the 5 “on the street” interviews we did at On Air Fest [https://www.onairfest.com/] last month and share our favorite takeaways and learnings. We hope you enjoy! - Outline - Flo and Lauren Introduction (00:00 - 09:34) * How we met * Lauren’s professional journey from Red Hat leadership development to BetterOn [https://betteron.com/] * Warm-ups and on-camera techniques Ben Robbins (NPR, Audible) on Why Audience Research is Crucial (09:34 - 12:20) * Ben is the founder of Sound Insights [https://www.sound-insights.co/] * Previously worked at NPR for 13 years and was global senior director of Research at Audible * Why Audience Research is imperative Flo & Lauren Recap (12:20 - 16:30) * Clip from “10 Years of National Sawdust” with Paola Prestini [https://www.nationalsawdust.org/people/paola-prestini-2]& Jad Abumrad Chioke Ianson (Resonate Podcast Festival, VCU) on Why Audio is Magic (16:30 - 21:29) * Chioki [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chioke-ianson/] founded Resonate Podcast Festival in Richmond, Virginia * He is the director of community media at the Institute for Contemporary Art at VCU and an underwriting voice for NPR Melanie Levitan (26:48 - 28:45) - Perspective from a podcast lover & attendee of the Fest * On Being Podcast [https://onbeing.org/series/podcast/] * Introduction of Simon Adler interview, clip from 15-minute live “Closed Captions: RadioLab” Simon Adler (Senior Producer, RadioLab [https://radiolab.org/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna6_BhCbARIsALId2Z1gXw4yy9tqJUAOKz-4VVc-W-KRN7RH8eWBZghMMDDAIhXBpaInkX8aAv5dEALw_wcB]) (31:34 - 36:55) on How to Design a Story for Different Formats * The story behind closed captions * The Impact of the Gallaudet University Protests * Reflections storytelling for various formats Max Jungreis (StoryCorps) (41:30 - 52:45) * The Art of Storytelling at StoryCorp [https://storycorps.org/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_social&utm_campaign=brand&utm_term=pmax_grant&cid=ppc|Google|||&gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=text&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna6_BhCbARIsALId2Z1l59VLNkZfcRhPAEUHBZDLtW5pY_Dapua0sCRI5H_fUyJ7v5sndy4aAuyKEALw_wcB] * Challenges and Rewards of Producing * The Role of Facilitators * Rapid Fire Questions with Max Reflections and Future Plans (52:45 - 58:53) * Meeting Reggie Watts [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Watts] * Concluding Thoughts Additional References: * Serial Podcast [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/podcasts/serial-productions.html] * Bianca Giaever - Making Documentaries a Spiritual Practice [https://www.onairfest.com/2025-sessions/making-documentaries] * Netflix Considers Podcasting [https://www.forbes.com/sites/ianshepherd/2025/02/12/netflix-considers-a-bold-new-play-in-the-creator-economy/] * One Small Step - StoryCorps [https://takeonesmallstep.org/?cid=ppc|Google|||&gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=text&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwna6_BhCbARIsALId2Z161xcD6mZxZXPV30VMevyCNhjeAlsbExaLBj-xFoSkKEUCswRobQUaAisWEALw_wcB] * The Monty - Lauren Wingard’s Story [http://themonti.org/storytellers/lauren-wingard] * Reply All Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reply-all/id941907967] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

3. apr. 2025 - 58 min
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Ep 7. The Invisible Art of Podcasting

(Listen on spotify [https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Jv1aDKwA38uU62iXdfDHm?si=fURk8j72Rv-gVntoHuc8iQ], apple podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-7-the-invisible-art-of-podcasting/id1744976743?i=1000691394026]) I discovered Siobhan and her work on the internet, of course. Her book “The Power of Podcasting [https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-power-of-podcasting/9780231208772]” caught my eye and I added to cart. Most books about podcasting are full of tactics and fluffy advice. The Power of Podcasting, however, gave me specific examples from Siobhan’s decades in radio, documentary, and podcast production to back up her learnings. In this episode, I had the opportunity to (virtually) sit down with author Siobhan McHugh [https://siobhanmchugh.org/podcast-polly-consultancy/], award-winning podcast producer, Oprah [https://www.oprahdaily.com/life/a60755258/how-podcasts-impact-brain/] & Oxford Handbook [https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-oxford-handbook-of-radio-and-podcasting-9780197551127?cc=us&lang=en&#] endorced scholar based in Australia and ask her some of the deeper questions I’ve asked myself for years like… * When is it ethical to add music to an interview? * Is it OK to add in your perspective as the host or journalist? * Why is podcasting so popular now? How did we get here and where are we going? Siobhan shares her journey from Ireland to Australia, from science student to a celebrated figure in radio and why audio storytelling is still her favorite format. 🎙️ Introduction and Podcasting Background (00:00 - 07:51) * Siobhan McHugh introduced as an award-winning writer, documentary maker, and podcast producer * Discussion on the impact of Serial podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/serial/id6442505336] on the podcasting industry * Authenticity in podcasting 📚 Audio Storytelling and Education (07:51 - 18:00) * Siobhan's experience teaching audio storytelling to skeptical students * Emphasis on the power of audio as a medium * Discussion on the cost and effort involved in producing narrative podcasts 🎭 Ethical Considerations in Podcasting (18:00 - 29:45) * Debate on the ethics of manipulating emotions through music in podcasts * Importance of balancing storytelling with ethical considerations * Discussion on the trend of hosts becoming part of the story in podcasts 🔍 Investigative Podcasting and Human Nature (29:45 - 39:24) * Analysis of Serial's approach to storytelling and its impact * Discussion on the balance between drama and respect in true crime podcasts * Importance of humanizing subjects in investigative podcasting 🎤 Podcasting's Influence and Future (39:24 - 47:31) * Discussion on podcasting's role in political communication * Analysis of different podcast formats and their appeal * Reflection on the future of podcasting and its potential impact This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

12. feb. 2025 - 47 min
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Ep 6. Podcast Hosting on Substack? My Pros and Cons so far

I’m trying something new again! I recently wrote a blog [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/p/podcasting-on-substack-what-ive-learned] outlining the pros and cons of hosting my podcast on Substack, and now I’ve added a companion podcast episode to the blog. To read along as you listen, here is the original blog below. What do you think of this format? My friend Angela Hollowell [https://substack.com/profile/20290961-angela-hollowell] was the first friend and fellow producer who enthusiastically introduced me to Substack. She was really excited about an app that allowed her to grow her email list and actually delivered her content to her subscribers (unlike IG, Facebook, and LinkedIn algorithms). It also allowed her to set up paid monthly subscriptions and create a beautiful, branded site for her content. “If patreon and medium had a baby, it would be substack” I told friends. On top of all of this, it supported podcast hosting! WOW. The Format. is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. I had to try it out. I love creating new brands, so I got to work brainstorming the name and premise of my new substack channel. I landed on “TheFormat.” I often think and talk philosophically about how media is changing and how various new and old media “formats” rise and fall with popularity and new technology. As an independent podcast producer, I think it’s important to share my perspective of the medium and my expertise. I set up interviews with people I wanted to learn from or get to know professionally and started turning it into content for my brand, Chorus Studios. “TheFormat.” would explore this new, popular format of podcasting. So how is it going? Here are my top take aways. Big Ups 👍 for Publishing your Pod-blog on Substack: * Built-in promotion and networking via email and in-app * Once you join the substack community, both in-app and your inbox, substack will start recommending publications and articles for you. As a substack producer, this means there are more opportunities for users to discover my content - especially if they follow other channels with similar content or topics to mine. About 30% of my subscribers found me organically through substack! * Opportunity to take advantage of “Recommendations” and good discoverability * Supports video and audio versions of your podcast for simple, one file distribution * Monetization * Opportunity for your followers to support your work financially with a low monthly donation - similar to patreon. * RSS feed creation * When you create a podcast on substack, substack will create an RSS feed for you. You still need to go into your setting and make sure your podcast is connected to Spotify, Apple Podcasts etc, but they make this process quite easy. * One place for all of your media formats * Promotes a combination of media simultaneously - written, video, audio, podcast. I wanted a platform where I could try out various written summaries or snippets from my podcast interviews. It’s so awesome that my followers can come to this one place to find both the full podcast as well as written content focusing on various topics (key take aways for example) from that longer podcast. * Beautiful design and fairly easy-to-use site setup * It took me a few days to set up my new website for TheFormat. on substack but it was easier than creating a website from scratch using other platforms like wix or Squarespace. I appreciate the ability to apply your unique brand colors, logo and imagery to the site. * Learn and connect with likeminded professionals * When considering which community to host your blog, reputation matters. So far, substack has a lot of edu-tainment or professional adjacent content that lends itself well to the content I am producing. I’ve made some great new connections to fellow podcasters and media professionals through Substack. Not so Ups 👎 for Publishing your Podcast on Substack: * Does not automatically distribute to nich podcast platforms * Unlike other podcast distributors like Transistor.fm, Substack does not automatically suggest you connect your podcast to platforms you may not have heard of like Deezer or Playerfm. If you want to do this with your substack podcast, you’ll need to take the RSS feed to these platforms on your own. It is possible, it’s just a bit extra work. * Mobile version of podcasts don’t have links to Spotify, Apple etc as it does on the web app * Ok this is my biggest pet peeve. While the web app version of the podcast episode page does have buttons to “listen on spotify, apple podcasts” etc, the iPhone or ios app does not. WHY!?! I have to add the links in the text of the episode show notes so that folks who have the app can find links to listen elsewhere… now that I’ve just written this out I realize that this may be because they don’t want users to leave the substack app to listen to the podcast elsewhere. Yup, that’s probably it. Here’s a screenshot from my iPhone of what I’m talking about. * Paid versus free podcast episodes is clunky and confusing to me * Admittedly, I haven’t released any “paid only” episodes yet so I will probably understand this better when I do. Somehow, paid podcast access is sent to a separate feed than the free podcast access. If someone is following the podcast on spotify but upgrades on substack from free to paid, I think they would need to follow a new link to find the correct version of the podcast on spotify. Ofcourse, if you are listening in the substack app this is easy but if your listeners are on other platforms this can be a confusing experience. * Podcast Stats leave much to be desired * I usually use transistor.fm to distribute my podcasts and, well, they don’t have the best analytics but it is much more specific than those offered by Substack. I would love to see more analytics, such as which episodes were listened to during specific dates, on substack. * What makes Substack great is also, in another way, a weakness * Substack is fun and interesting because it combines so many types of online platforms - it’s a blog, a blogging network, a podcast streaming and distribution service, AND it has social media features like chat, restacks, and comments. * Similar to how Instagram is trying to be youtube, snapchat, tiktok and a photoapp - substack is doing it all and, as a user and producer, its confusing. I’m still asking myself, which way is the best way to promote my content on substack? Should I chat all of my subscribers? I will say, email newsletter aspect is a huge bonus. Even though I don’t have thousands of followers here yet, I already feel loyal to the platform because I can almost guarantee most of my subscribers will at least see my content in their inbox. Where I’ve Landed for Now: As with anything you do with your business, the most important question to ask is “What are my top goals with this project?” Right now, my main goal for TheFormat. is to build community and have people who I could work with listen (or watch) the podcast - to build my credibility and thoughtleadership as a podcasting professional within my industry. Secondly, I want to use substack to try out different ways of creating written content from my podcast content. Thirdly, I want to stay abreast of new technology and experiment with this new hybrid platform. My main goal right now is not to have thousands of listeners or become a well known podcast host. I’m open to it! But it’s not my main goal. Therefore, I’m ok with having a smaller but more focused listener base. I also really enjoy and appreciate the email list building and networking functionality built into the platform. If you are going to produce content for yourself and it’s going to time away from paying work, I think it’s important to enjoy it and to find it useful to your growth as a professional. So far I’m really enjoying this platform and that in of itself is really valuable to me! Other substack podcasters! Please comment your top pros and cons to hosting your podcast on substack in the comments below! I’d love to hear your thoughts! Cheers! -Flo, Chorus Studios [https://www.chorus-studios.com/] Thanks for reading The Format.! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

4. sept. 2024 - 21 min
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Ep 5. Give a Podcast Interview like a PR Pro with Elliot Tomaeno

(Listen on spotify [https://open.spotify.com/episode/2pbC6PUFZScoW85cUmew07], apple podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-format/id1744976743?i=1000665273485]) Have you ever wondered how PR professionals help their clients prepare for a podcast interview? You are about to find out! Elliot Tomaeno founded ASTRSK PR [https://www.astrskpr.com/] in 2012 and has worked with some of the most innovative startup brands out there, including Groupon, Prime Video, Lemonade, Getaround, THINX, and Squarespace. He has been featured on Business Insider’s Top 50 PR professionals' list 7 years running as well as Adweek’s 30 Under 30 in 2015. Through ASTRSK, Elliot has helped launch and support more than 800+ startups and innovation brands. In this conversation, we discuss how and why he started his own public relations firm focused on innovation, how he advises his clients to best represent themselves on a podcast, how he views ethics in business, and his vision for the future of ASTRSK. We dive deep into specific techniques he uses for his clients to help them prepare to give an excellent podcast interview. He also shares some incredible outcomes from podcasts featuring his clients. This is a good one guys! Shout out to my friend Chris Gorges [https://thompsonandprince.com/about/] of Thompson & Prince for connecting us. Connect with Elliot Tomaeno on Instagram [http://Instagram.com/elliotpr] or Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliottomaeno/]. Here’s an outline with time codes below. 🎙️ Podcasting and PR Insights (00:00 - 15:00) * PR feels less contrived than traditional advertising * Podcasts offer a more genuine, raw content experience * Elliot Tomaeno introduced as founder and CEO of ASTRSK PR * PR preparation differs for podcasts vs. other media formats * Importance of being in the right headspace for podcast interviews 👤 Client Preparation for Podcasts (15:00 - 30:00) * Encourage vulnerability and storytelling in podcast interviews * Prepare strategies for redirecting uncomfortable questions * Balance between personal stories and business objectives * Importance of listening to previous podcast episodes before appearing as a guest * Ethical considerations when taking on new PR clients 🚀 ASTRSK PR's Approach and Values (30:00 - 46:49) * Focus on startups making positive impact * Annual pro bono contest for underrepresented founders * Importance of authenticity and vulnerability in brand storytelling * Considerations for starting a company podcast * Value of creating shareable, saveable content for social media This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe [https://theformatpodcast.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

14. aug. 2024 - 47 min
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