Influencing Outcomes

The future of news, AI and creator trust

In this episode of Influencing Outcomes, Nathan Powell, Ben Gunn and Eliza Lewis unpack one of the biggest tensions shaping the digital economy right now, the growing collision between governments, platforms, media companies and the audiences caught in the middle. The conversation kicks off with a look inside TikTok World in New York and the IAB Video Summit, exploring how far creator marketing has come and why many brands are still early in understanding the space. From the fragmentation of traditional media to the rise of creator led entertainment, the episode looks at how audience behaviour has fundamentally shifted and why old systems are struggling to keep up. From there, the discussion turns to the Australian Government’s proposed social media levy and the latest evolution of the News Media Bargaining Code. What starts as a conversation about journalism quickly expands into a bigger debate around taxation, platform power, algorithms and the future of news itself. The team explores whether these policies are genuinely protecting journalism or simply acting as short term fixes for declining media models. Later in the episode, Nathan revisits Fabulate’s “Dead Creator Theory” presentation from the AIMCO Summit, exploring how AI is reshaping trust, authenticity and the future of online content. As generative AI floods the internet with synthetic content, the conversation asks a bigger question: what happens when audiences no longer know what’s real? Across the episode, a clear theme emerges, the systems designed to govern media and content are evolving far slower than the platforms and technologies reshaping them in real time. In this week’s conversation, they unpack platform regulation, creator marketing growth, AI generated content, digital trust and the shifting balance of power between audiences, creators and platforms. This episode is designed for marketers, brands and creators looking to better understand where media, platform policy and creator marketing are heading next. Timecodes: 1. Setting the scene: TikTok World & IAB Summit – (0:03) 2. How we got here: News Media Bargaining Code 101 – (3:37) 3. Is this journalism support or just a tax in disguise? – (6:06) 4. Dead Creator Theory: bots, AI content & collapsing trust – (21:09) 5. Are creators safe? The future of trust and creator jobs – (49:03) Follow, Subscribe and Stay Connected. Enjoyed the episode? Follow Influencing Outcomes on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an update. For more insights, industry trends and behind the scenes content: Follow Fabulate on socials: LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/fabulate] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fabulatehq/?hl=en]| TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@fabulatehq] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgV8_zAKSCaVVj9SZhomZQQ] Visit our website: www.fabulate.co [https://www.fabulate.co/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=Ep1]

Trust Issues: AI, Creator Deals & Platform Power

In this episode of Influencing Outcomes, Nathan Powell, Ben Gunn and Eliza Lewis unpack three stories shaping the future of the creator economy and what they reveal about where the industry is heading. They kick things off with a closer look at YouTube’s growing role in creator strategy, from its unmatched trust with audiences to the rise of Shorts as a serious discovery engine. The conversation explores why brands should be rethinking platform mix heading into 2026, and how new tools like clickable links and brand mention tracking could reshape how performance and creator discovery work. The episode then shifts into one of the most talked about stories in the space right now, the rise and rapid fall of the Khaby Lame investment deal. What started as a groundbreaking moment for the creator economy has quickly unravelled, raising bigger questions around how creators are valued, the gap between influence and business, and whether audiences are ready to treat creators as investable assets. From there, they dive into a local case making waves, Stax Burger Co, and what happens when brand content pushes the boundaries of humour, regulation and platform rules. The discussion highlights the growing disconnect between what regulators say is acceptable and what platforms actually allow, and what this means for brands navigating risk versus attention. Finally, the conversation turns to AI and the growing shift in how audiences consume and trust content. With more people questioning what’s real online, brands are now starting to position “no AI” as a differentiator, creating a new dynamic where authenticity is no longer assumed but something that needs to be proven. Across all three stories, a clear theme emerges, the gap between how fast content is evolving and how slowly the systems around it are catching up. The episode explores what this means for brands, creators and platforms, and why trust is becoming the most valuable currency in the space. In this week’s conversation, they unpack platform strategy, creator monetisation, paid vs organic, brand safety, AI scepticism and the future of trust in digital content. This episode is designed for marketers, brands and creators looking to better understand where the creator economy is heading and how to stay ahead of the shift.. Follow, Subscribe and Stay Connected. Enjoyed the episode? Follow Influencing Outcomes on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an update. For more insights, industry trends and behind the scenes content: Follow Fabulate on socials: LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/fabulate] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fabulatehq/?hl=en]| TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@fabulatehq] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgV8_zAKSCaVVj9SZhomZQQ] Visit our website: www.fabulate.co [https://www.fabulate.co/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=Ep1] * (00:04) Introduction + YouTube Partner Summit discussion begins * (02:21) YouTube content insights + long-term value of videos * (06:31) New YouTube features: clickable links & “brand mentioned” tool * (11:36) Khaby Lame deal breakdown + creator-as-asset discussion * (30:16) Brands promoting “non-AI” content + trust challenges

The Rise of the Midlife Creator

In this episode of Influencing Outcomes, Nathan Powell, Ben Gunn and Eliza Lewis are joined by Carolyn Dicker, content creator and founder of Midlife Creator Club, for a grounded and refreshingly honest look at what it really takes to show up online. From building an audience during lockdown to helping others find the confidence to hit post, Carolyn shares her journey into content creation and how she’s turned it into both a personal outlet and a growing community for midlife creators. The conversation explores the fundamentals that actually drive growth, from the power of consistency and community to why overthinking is often the biggest barrier to getting started. Carolyn breaks down her “3 Cs” approach, content, community and consistency, and why engagement matters more than views when it comes to understanding what’s working. They also unpack the reality of creating at a later life stage, challenging the perception that social platforms are dominated by younger creators. The discussion highlights the value of life experience, relatability and trust, and why there is a growing opportunity for creators who better reflect the audiences brands are trying to reach. The episode dives into the mental side of content creation, from fear of judgment to dealing with online negativity, and why starting before you feel ready is often the only way forward. Carolyn shares practical advice for both individuals and brands, including how to approach TikTok, what makes content resonate, and why entertainment and authenticity go hand in hand. They also touch on a key tension in the creator economy today, the gap between who brands are targeting and who actually holds the spending power, and what this means for representation, opportunity and long term strategy. In this week’s conversation, they unpack confidence, consistency, creator growth, midlife audiences, platform strategy and the evolving definition of who gets to be a creator. This episode is designed for marketers, brands and aspiring creators who want a clearer, more human understanding of what it takes to build momentum in today’s creator landscape. Follow, Subscribe and Stay Connected. Enjoyed the episode? Follow Influencing Outcomes on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an update. For more insights, industry trends and behind the scenes content: Follow Fabulate on socials: LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/fabulate] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fabulatehq/?hl=en]| TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@fabulatehq] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgV8_zAKSCaVVj9SZhomZQQ] Visit our website: www.fabulate.co [https://www.fabulate.co/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=Ep1]

YouTube - Creator Marketing’s Blue Ocean

In episode twelve of Influencing Outcomes, Nathan Powell, Ben Gunn and Eliza Lewis are joined by Rhone Eppelheimer, Head of Partner Growth at Google, for a sharp, inside look at how YouTube is reshaping the future of creator marketing. With over a decade at Google and a recent pivot into influencer and creator strategy, Rhone brings a rare perspective on how platforms are evolving to support brands, creators and partners in a more connected ecosystem. The conversation explores the shift towards deeper infrastructure in creator marketing, from the rise of first party data to the opening up of APIs that give brands unprecedented visibility into creator performance, audience insights and campaign outcomes. Rhone breaks down what this unlocks for brands and why this marks a turning point for how creator marketing is planned and measured. They also dive into YouTube’s unique position in the creator economy, from its multi format ecosystem of long form and short form content to its role as both a content platform and a search engine. The discussion unpacks how creators are operating more like studios, why trust and credibility on YouTube runs deeper, and what that means for brands looking to build meaningful partnerships. The episode highlights the scale of opportunity, from the rapid growth of YouTube Shorts to the untapped audiences that brands are still missing, and why YouTube remains a largely underutilised channel despite its reach and performance. Rhone also shares how brands should be thinking about creator investment in 2026, why business outcomes are becoming the true north for measurement, and how creator partnerships are evolving into longer term, more integrated media strategies. In this week’s conversation, they unpack first party data, platform integration, YouTube’s evolving ecosystem, creator trust, multi format strategy and the future of measurable creator marketing. This episode is designed for marketers, agencies and brands who want to understand where the creator economy is heading next, and how to make smarter, more effective decisions in a rapidly maturing landscape. Follow, Subscribe and Stay Connected. Enjoyed the episode? Follow Influencing Outcomes on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an update. For more insights, industry trends and behind the scenes content: Follow Fabulate on socials: LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/fabulate] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fabulatehq/?hl=en]| TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@fabulatehq] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgV8_zAKSCaVVj9SZhomZQQ] Visit our website: www.fabulate.co [https://www.fabulate.co/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=Ep1]

How to Turn Content Into a Real Career That Lasts with Taz Zammit

In episode eleven of Influencing Outcomes, Nathan Powell and Ben Gunn are joined by creator, entrepreneur and educator Taz Zammit for a candid conversation on what it really takes to build a sustainable career in the creator economy. Best known as one half of Taz and Alessia, Taz shares the story behind their rise from posting during lockdown to building a global audience of more than 1.4 million followers. But this episode goes far beyond growth numbers. It gets into the mindset, structure and decision making required to turn content creation into a real business. The conversation explores how Taz and Alessia evolved from trend led content into a brand built on clear values, strong community trust and long term thinking. Taz opens up about the shift from creator to business owner, the importance of professionalism, and why longevity in this industry depends on more than just going viral. They also discuss the realities behind the scenes, from hiring support and managing finances to protecting headspace, setting boundaries with brands and knowing when to say no. Taz shares her perspective on what makes a great creator partnership, why brands need to be clearer about success metrics, and how stronger collaboration can lead to better outcomes on both sides. The episode also dives into the future of content, including why deeper storytelling may be making a comeback, how creators should think about what comes next, and where AI could start to shape the creator experience. In this week’s conversation, they unpack creator longevity, professionalism, brand alignment, evolving content formats and the business mindset needed to thrive in the creator economy. This episode is designed for creators, marketers and agencies who want a sharper understanding of what sustainable creator careers really look like, and what it takes to build influence that lasts. Follow, Subscribe and Stay Connected. Enjoyed the episode? Follow Influencing Outcomes on your favourite podcast platform so you never miss an update. For more insights, industry trends and behind the scenes content: Follow Fabulate on socials: LinkedIn [https://au.linkedin.com/company/fabulate] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fabulatehq/?hl=en]| TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@fabulatehq] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgV8_zAKSCaVVj9SZhomZQQ] Visit our website: www.fabulate.co [https://www.fabulate.co/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=description&utm_campaign=Ep1]