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Intimacy Choreography in Conversation

Podcast by Ann James, Carly DW Bones

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About Intimacy Choreography in Conversation

Intimacy Choreography in Conversation is a podcast about how we create care, consent, and connection in performance, and what it takes to do it well. Hosted by industry leaders Ann James and Carly DW Bones, this series brings you grounded, expansive conversations with intimacy professionals, artists, educators, and advocates working across theater, film, and television. Together, we explore the evolving field of intimacy choreography: how it emerged, how it's practiced, and where it's headed. Whether you're a seasoned intimacy director, a student, a performer, or just curious about the behind-the-scenes work of storytelling, Intimacy Choreography in Conversation offers a rare look at the values, politics, and practices shaping one of the most vital new disciplines in the arts. This is not a how-to podcast. It's a space for deep listening, honest reflection, and critical dialogue, rooted in the belief that safety, vulnerability, and imagination can coexist in powerful ways. In each episode, you'll hear firsthand accounts from working intimacy professionals navigating real-world challenges. You'll hear nuanced discussions about power, identity, training, and collaboration. You'll hear practical insights into tools, language, and rehearsal room culture. You'll also hear personal reflections on community, burnout, boundaries, and joy. Our episodes center the voices and experiences of those who are often underrepresented in the industry and who are actively reshaping what it means to make art ethically, safely, and beautifully. If you're new to intimacy work, you're welcome here. If you're looking for a place to feel less alone in this work, you're in the right spot. If you're trying to imagine a more sustainable, care-centered future in the arts, we are too. Created by intimacy professionals, for intimacy professionals, and for everyone who believes storytelling should be brave, collaborative, and transformative. Hosted by Ann James and Carly DW Bones. Produced by David Gonzalez and Hazel Lozano. Subscribe and join the conversation.

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22 episodes

episode 304 Part 1 | Raja Benz: Beyond the Binary, Intimacy and Identity artwork

304 Part 1 | Raja Benz: Beyond the Binary, Intimacy and Identity

In this episode of 'Intimacy Choreography in Conversation', hosts Ann James and Carly DW Bones welcome Raja Benz, a lecturer in Musical Theater at the University of Michigan. Raja shares her origin story, discussing her journey into the field of intimacy choreography. She reflects on her work in Chicago's art scene, the influence of the Me Too movement, and how her trans identity shapes her approach to consent and intimacy in theater. Raja emphasizes the importance of creating space for nuanced and compassionate conversations around consent, challenging rigid binaries, and meeting people where they are. The discussion delves into the complexities of power, gender identity, and the ongoing evolution of intimacy work in the industry. 00:00 305 Raja Benz Part 1 00:06 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement 01:26 Raja Benz's Journey into Intimacy Choreography 04:11 Navigating Consent and Identity 07:04 Challenges and Reflections in Intimacy Work 28:03 Navigating Pronouns and Respect 30:29 The Complexity of Consent

28 Sep 2025 - 31 min
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303 Part 2 | Laura Rikard

The Evolution and Future of Theatrical Intimacy Education (TIE) In this episode, the Laura, Ann, and Carly discuss the growth and developments within Theatrical Intimacy Education (TIE) and its diverse, knowledgeable faculty. They elaborate on the evolution of TIE’s workshops and training programs, emphasizing their focus on progressing intimacy practices in the field rather than just producing intimacy coordinators. Upcoming events such as in-person labs, workshops, and the TIE symposium are highlighted. The discussion also touches on the necessity of balancing practical needs with holding onto core values, the importance of empowering everyone in the process, and the joy and collaboration involved in intimacy work. They stress the importance of adaptability and effective hiring practices in the field while emphasizing the value of shared understanding and collaboration. 00:00 Part 2 ICIC S3 Laura Rikard 01:22 Introduction to Faculty and Workshops 04:11 Upcoming Events and Workshops 06:52 The Importance of Practicality in Intimacy Work 14:52 Collaborative and Joyful Intimacy Practices

24 Sep 2025 - 26 min
episode 303 Part 1 Beyond the Curtain: Laura Rikard and Theatrical Intimacy Education artwork

303 Part 1 Beyond the Curtain: Laura Rikard and Theatrical Intimacy Education

In this episode of 'Intimacy Choreography in Conversation,' hosts Carly and Ann welcome Laura Rikard, a leading intimacy professional and a founding member and head faculty of Theatrical Intimacy Education (TIE). Laura shares her journey starting from her acting career in 1998 to founding TIE, inspired by addressing power dynamics and promoting healthy practices in actor training. She discusses her collaboration with Chelsea Pace in forming TIE and their contributions amidst the Me Too Movement. Laura emphasizes consent-based practices, boundary pedagogy, and the significance of deroleing in actor training. The conversation also touches on challenges and strategies for educators and directors in implementing these practices in educational and professional settings. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:22 Laura Rikard's Journey into Intimacy Choreography 04:58 The Evolution of Theatrical Intimacy Education 09:28 Challenges and Techniques in Intimacy Work

14 Sep 2025 - 28 min
episode 302 Part 2 | Greg Geffrard artwork

302 Part 2 | Greg Geffrard

In this second part of the conversation, Greg Geffard delves deeper into the evolution and challenges of the intimacy field. He discusses the shift from safety frameworks to Spaces of Acceptable Risk (SOAR), emphasizing the importance of language, community, and sustainability. Greg highlights the role of young activists in driving cultural shifts and addresses the need for decentralization in advocacy work. He also touches on the significance of staying present and connected to the community. The episode concludes with Greg sharing his upcoming projects, including his work on 'The Color Purple' in Chicago and his mentorship efforts. 00:00 Part 2 Conversation with Greg Geffard 00:42 Challenges and Evolution in the Intimacy Field 08:14 Future Directions and Advocacy in Intimacy Work 16:48 Closing Thoughts and Gratitude

7 Sep 2025 - 22 min
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