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Kwok ’n’ Roll

Podcast by Kwok Pui Lan

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What does it mean to be a Christian and a person of faith in today’s challenging world? How can we have meaningful dialogue across racial, cultural, religious, and political differences to address the urgent needs of our time? Join Kwok Pui Lan, a pioneering postcolonial theologian, in her conversation with leading intellectuals, courageous religious leaders, fearless activists, and inspiring artists and roll along.

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God Loves Me. The Bible Too

Peter Carlson grew up evangelical — fluent in scripture, certain of God's love, but told by his church a very different story. Today he's a queer theologian and editor of the Queer Lectionary, inviting queer people — and everyone — to reclaim the Bible on their own terms. In this conversation, Peter shares what it means to read scripture through a queer lens, why Zacchaeus may be the queerest story in the Bible, and why the church needs to start asking those in the margins: "Where are you finding God?" ✦ What is the Queer Lectionary? ✦ Why queer readings of scripture matter for everyone ✦ The Zacchaeus story — and what most preachers miss ✦ Responding to critics who say the Bible's meaning is clear ✦ Queer theology as a practice of embodiment, not just identity Peter Carlson is an Episcopal queer theologian and editor of A Queer Lectionary (Year A [https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Lectionary-proper-Readings-Margins/dp/1640657959/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2HQVTOQFBE9WC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vjqtRFZUigzhkxefa9XGlPG-7lzDCn6SD2UXmzeQZ34QYXEB37Y60UNdkQC3P84K7p_ENmWtcHuvTEp2-y1fsw.x0unBEZ87ussIo2aB8eXTfM1azE3ewNzUY8_qH7Q760&dib_tag=se&keywords=a+queer+lectionary&qid=1779483282&sprefix=a+queer+lectionary%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-2] and Year B [https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Lectionary-proper-Readings-Margins/dp/1640659595/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HQVTOQFBE9WC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vjqtRFZUigzhkxefa9XGlPG-7lzDCn6SD2UXmzeQZ34QYXEB37Y60UNdkQC3P84K7p_ENmWtcHuvTEp2-y1fsw.x0unBEZ87ussIo2aB8eXTfM1azE3ewNzUY8_qH7Q760&dib_tag=se&keywords=a+queer+lectionary&qid=1779483244&sprefix=a+queer+lectionary%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-1]), a multi-voice collection of sermons on the Revised Common Lectionary. 🎙️ Kwok Pui Lan is a postcolonial theologian exploring faith, social justice, and cross-cultural dialogue.

22 May 2026 - 22 min
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When Kings Become Tyrants: A Biblical Scholar Speaks Out

What does the Bible really say about the tyrants — and what happens when a world-class biblical scholar has lived the abuse of power herself? Gale A. Yee — the first Asian American and first woman of color to serve as president of the Society of Biblical Literature (SBL) — joins Kwok Pui Lan for a conversation that spans scripture, power, racism in academia, and the urgent question of tyranny in our political moment. Dr. Yee opens with a provocation: she is writing a scholarly article on tyrants. Not because it's an abstract exercise, but because we are living through one. From there, the conversation moves through her groundbreaking work in Asian American biblical interpretation, her personal encounters with racism and tokenism in the academy, and what the Bible — read honestly and without apology — has to say about those who seize power and call themselves kings. This is biblical scholarship with stakes. And it is long overdue. 📌 About Gale A. Yee: Professor Emerita of Hebrew Bible at Episcopal Divinity School and former president of the Society of Biblical Literature. A pioneering voice in feminist, intersectional, and Asian American biblical studies.

12 May 2026 - 16 min
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Faithful Provocations Ep 3: Christian Nationalism vs Real Christianity

In this episode of Faithful Provocations, Kwok Pui Lan and Mary E. Hunt dissect the DOJ's new report on "Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias" — and reveal what it's really doing: imposing white Christian values on everyone. They discuss: • The DOJ report's three chilling next steps — Christian sermons at the Pentagon, faith-based housing discrimination against LGBTQ people, and churches endorsing political candidates • How mainline denominations (Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans) have already ordained queer people — the majority of Christians don't support this discrimination • Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Parker's landmark book Saving Paradise — how Christianity traded love of the world for crucifixion and empire • Why the cross became the normative Christian symbol only at the time of the Crusades — and what early Christians actually depicted (fish, bread, people sharing a meal) • Mary Hunt's argument: "The cross is not glory, but failure" — and what should replace it • How atonement theology was weaponized during colonization — Filipino theologians exposed how suffering was used to justify brutal colonial policies • Marco Rubio's Vatican visit to patch tensions between Pope Leo and Trump — and why it won't work Elections have consequences. The same people who brought you a war in Iran now want to sell you a new Christian crusade. Feminist and postcolonial scholars are pointing out what's going on — and we won't stop.

8 May 2026 - 15 min
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Is Liberation Theology Still Radical? Nicolás Panotto on the Second Generation

#LiberationTheology #LatinAmericanTheology #PostcolonialTheology #DecolonialFaith #Theology #Christianity #SocialJustice #ChristianThought Is liberation theology still a radical force — or has it been domesticated? Nicolás Panotto, theologian, human rights activist, and director of the civil society organization Otros Cruces, argues that the real gift of liberation theology isn't a set of doctrines but a methodology — and that the second generation has taken that methodology into new territory: queer theology, intersectionality, decolonial epistemology, and the spirituality of social movements. In this conversation, Kwok Pui Lan and Panotto explore: • The transition from the first to the second generation of Latin American liberation theology • Decolonial vs. postcolonial theory — and why the difference matters for theology • The groundbreaking (and underread) legacy of Marcella Althaus-Reid • How civil rights organizing shaped Panotto's theological method • What theologians must do in a time of rising authoritarianism and dehumanization Dr. Nicolás Panotto is a professor at the University of Oldenburg (Germany) and director of Otros Crucos, a Latin American organization working at the intersection of theology, human rights, and social movements. He is based in Chile. Dr. Panotto is the coeditor of Decolonizing Liberation Theologies [https://www.amazon.com/Decolonizing-Liberation-Theologies-Postcolonialism-Religions/dp/3031311302/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1ASWDSPE32WW5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KGCNW1kKKHrBWKEqx15J1_Ch29Ab0wphawNtS4DXPYqC8JCSHoz0lIX2MgsmCPcLsWay__iZ1MZFz2O5WeZOe5Ob2eegH578HkDL5dG-Rn4wmX6HmR7zxWQdN6cETxeOEO_55b-9JODs8B7z8UxM8aDsggTOT8ig1jlJHvk2z6M.jEXDGc-Y1ZVVOL-ggf_ywLMjeH9cOvRrSPeazfo9QoE&dib_tag=se&keywords=nicolas+Panotto&qid=1778023395&sprefix=nicolas+panotto%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-3]. 🔔 Subscribe for weekly conversations at the intersection of theology, justice, and the world.

6 May 2026 - 23 min
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