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On Education with Mark and John

Podcast by mncnuge

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About On Education with Mark and John

Two education administrators talking about what’s really happening in schools today. From new teaching approaches to the future of learning, we break down what matters, what works, and what needs to change. New episodes every week with real conversations and fresh insights. Connect with us on Instagram (@mcovelle & @zukker23) and LinkedIn!

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13 episodes

episode Season One Wrap-Up: Reflections, Lessons, and What’s Next artwork

Season One Wrap-Up: Reflections, Lessons, and What’s Next

Show Summary: In this special season finale, John and Mark look back on their first season of podcasting together and the school year that shaped it. From debates over phones and leadership philosophies to unexpected snow days and the voices of teacher-leaders, they revisit the conversations that stood out and the themes that emerged. They also share what they’re excited about for next year, including new ideas they’re bringing into their work and into the podcast. Plus, Mark introduces John to a brand-new segment called The Exit Ticket... Whether you've listened to every episode or are just joining in, this wrap-up captures the energy, growth, and ambition behind season one and sets the stage for what’s ahead. Show Notes: Key Topics * Reflections on the school year and season one of the podcast * Favorite moments and themes from this season’s episodes * Lessons learned from teacher-leaders, policy shifts, and real-world education issues * Preview of ideas and priorities for the upcoming school year * Introduction of The Exit Ticket, how we will get to know our future guests * Gratitude for listeners, guests, and everyone helping to shape the conversation Connect with Mark: * ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/mcovelle/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcovelle] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.markcovelle.com] Connect with John: * ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/zukker23/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-zuk-62aa49346/] Leave a Review: If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts. Call to Action: Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful conversations on the future of education technology, AI, and the evolving landscape of educational leadership! Intro and Outro Music: "Dreamer" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

17 May 2025 - 27 min
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The Backbone of Every School: Shining a Light on Support Staff

Note: Audio shifts at 16:10 - we will continue to try and do better. Sorry. Show Summary: In this episode, Mark and John focus on the unsung heroes who keep schools running every day—support staff. From custodians and maintenance crews to administrative assistants, IT specialists, and instructional aides, they discuss the critical roles these professionals play in creating a safe, welcoming, and functional environment for students and staff. They share stories of the people behind the scenes, highlight how much these roles shape school culture, and explore why it’s time for schools to give support staff the recognition they’ve long deserved. It’s a conversation about gratitude, respect, and the people who make it all possible. Show Notes: Key Topics * * The wide range of roles that support staff fill in schools * * How these team members shape school climate and culture * Personal stories of support staff who made a lasting impact * Why recognizing and respecting support staff is a leadership priority * A reminder that great schools run on more than instruction—they run on community * * Connect with Mark: * ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/mcovelle/] * ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcovelle] * ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.markcovelle.com] Connect with John: * ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/zukker23/] * ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-zuk-62aa49346/] Leave a Review: If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts. Call to Action: Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful conversations on the future of education technology, AI, and the evolving landscape of educational leadership! Intro and Outro Music: "Dreamer" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

16 Apr 2025 - 27 min
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From AI to the Edge of Space: What SXSW 2025 Says About the Future of Everything

Show Summary: In this episode, Mark and John unpack the most powerful takeaways from SXSW 2025. From AI’s growing role as a creative partner to the real-world arrival of quantum computing, they explore how this year’s event signaled a massive shift in how we think about innovation, leadership, and the future of work. They also reflect on themes like responsible technology use, immersive storytelling, and the expanding commercial frontier of space. Whether you're an educator, entrepreneur, or leader trying to keep up with emerging trends, this episode offers a sharp look at what’s coming—and what it means for all of us. Show Notes: Key Topics * AI as a Creative Partner: From music to medicine, AI isn’t replacing us—it’s expanding what we can do. * Quantum Computing Is Here: No longer theoretical, quantum is already driving breakthroughs in science, finance, and materials. * Policy as a Strategic Advantage: Companies that understand and navigate regulation are positioned to lead. * Digital Safety for a Hyper-Connected World: It’s not just about data protection—it’s about protecting minds, attention, and autonomy. * Experiential Brands Are Winning: The future of marketing is immersive, emotional, and participatory. * Healthcare Reimagined: AI-driven diagnostics and longevity science are moving from concept to clinic. * Space as a Business Frontier: Lunar commerce, health research, and materials testing are transforming what’s possible back on Earth. * Fandom is Evolving: Immersive, co-created, and participatory—entertainment now invites audiences to shape the story. Links: https://www.pwc.com/us/en/industries/tmt/library/human-ingenuity.html [https://www.pwc.com/us/en/industries/tmt/library/human-ingenuity.html] Connect with Mark: * ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/mcovelle/] * ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcovelle] * ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.markcovelle.com] Connect with John: * ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/zukker23/] * ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-zuk-62aa49346/] Leave a Review: If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts. Call to Action: Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful conversations on the future of education technology, AI, and the evolving landscape of educational leadership! Intro and Outro Music: "Dreamer" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

16 Apr 2025 - 43 min
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Closing Time at the DOE: Education Without the Feds?

Show Summary: In this episode, John and Mark respond to the stunning announcement of the closure of the U.S. Department of Education. They unpack what this unprecedented shift could mean for schools across the country and share their thoughts on how such a major change might play out in practice. From the potential reworking of federal funding streams to the uncertain future of high-stakes testing, they explore both the challenges and the opportunities that could come with this dramatic move. While the implications are still unfolding, John and Mark offer their early reactions, areas of cautious optimism, and questions every educator should be asking. Show Notes: Key Topics * Reactions to the announcement of the Department of Education’s closure * How the change process could unfold at the state and local levels * The future of federal funding and how schools might still access support * What this could mean for accountability and high-stakes testing * Opportunities for rethinking education systems and priorities * Initial reflections on navigating an uncertain educational landscape Links Disrupt Education Podcast featuring Mark: https://youtu.be/bqojWDCYa2s?feature=shared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqaSUEmFMI Connect with Mark: * ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/mcovelle/] * ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcovelle] * ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ [http://www.markcovelle.com] Connect with John: * ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/zukker23/] * ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-zuk-62aa49346/] Leave a Review: If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts. Call to Action: Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful conversations on the future of education technology, AI, and the evolving landscape of educational leadership! Intro and Outro Music: "Dreamer" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

13 Apr 2025 - 36 min
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Professional Networks - Twitter, LinkedIn, and more...

Show Summary: In this episode, John and Mark talk about how educators stay connected and informed in a time when professional networking platforms are shifting. With Twitter’s transformation, BlueSky still finding its footing, and LinkedIn offering a slower-paced, more formal vibe, they explore how educators are adapting to build their circles and stay current. They reflect on the evolution of online professional learning communities, share how their own networking habits have changed, and consider what’s missing in today’s digital spaces. If you’ve been wondering where the best conversations in education are happening now, this episode takes a closer look at the landscape. Show Notes: Key Topics * The changing role of Twitter/X in education networking * Why platforms like BlueSky haven’t gained momentum with educators * The pros and cons of LinkedIn as a professional learning space * How educators are finding new ways to connect and share ideas * The importance of informal, real-time collaboration in professional growth * Reflections on what educators need from online networks today Links from the Show: * NCTM [https://www.nctm.org/] * PETE & C [https://www.peteandc.org/] * PA Principals [https://www.paprincipals.org/] * NCLA [https://ncla-cte.org/] * SXSW [https://www.sxswedu.com/] Connect with Mark: * ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/mcovelle/] * ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcovelle] * ⁠Website⁠ [http://www.markcovelle.com] Connect with John: * ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/zukker23/] * ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-zuk-62aa49346/] Leave a Review:If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Podcasts. Call to Action:Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful conversations on the future of education technology, AI, and the evolving landscape of educational leadership! Intro and Outro Music: Dreamer Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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