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The Keynote podcast is the main stage of Speaking Engagement—the “conference on engagement that never sleeps.” Hosted by Ryan Catherwood, each episode features a deep-dive conversation with a leader shaping how organizations connect with their communities, from alumni and donors to employees and customers. These aren’t presentations—they’re working sessions, unpacking the strategies, tensions, and tradeoffs behind modern engagement. If you think of engagement as more than events and communications — if you see it as infrastructure — Keynote is built for you. www.speakingengagement.org

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Something You Have, or Something You Build?

For years, colleges have sold the alumni network as one of the great benefits of attending. Look at our reach. Look at who you’ll know. Look at the doors a degree from here opens. Brandon Busteed thinks the first rungs of the career ladder are disappearing. On the Keynote, he laid out the erosion: 8.2 million college students wanted an internship this past year, and 3.6 million got one. Teen employment started falling off a cliff around 2010. Entry-level white-collar work is now the part of the labor market most exposed to AI. The bottom of the ladder, the part graduates used to climb onto without thinking about it, is thinning out underneath them. That changes what an alumni network is for. A harder question sits underneath the pitch: which of those is it? Most institutions act as though career connections surface on their own. Hold the reunions, run the affinity groups, host a few networking nights, and the relationships take care of themselves. The reach exists, so the value must be in there somewhere. The institutions producing the strongest outcomes treat relationships the way they treat fundraising and enrollment and the academic program: as infrastructure that someone owns, funds, and is accountable for. Busteed has the data on what happens when an institution actually builds it. During his time at Gallup, the school that scored highest on alumni saying they’d had a mentor who encouraged their goals and dreams was an online, adult-serving university. Nobody would have guessed it. It had no quad, no residence halls, no homecoming weekend. What it had was full-time staff whose entire job was mentoring students. The outcome people associate with deep campus tradition came from a place with none of it, because the place decided mentoring was a function and staffed it like one. Set that against where the engagement dollars actually go. Homecoming and reunions absorb tens of thousands of dollars a year at most institutions, sometimes more. These are real community-builders and worth keeping. But they answer a question alumni are asking less and less. Reunions ask whether you remember this place. The graduate watching the entry-level market close behind them is asking something else: is this place still useful to me now? Those are different relationships. One runs on memory. The other runs on whether the institution shows up at the moments that matter after graduation, which are increasingly the career moments. An alumni office optimized for the first will keep reporting strong attendance numbers while the second relationship quietly goes unbuilt. This is the gap between affiliation and connection. Affiliation comes free with the degree: you went here, so you’re one of ours, and the reunion invitation arrives on schedule. Connection has to be earned at the point of need. The Gallup mentorship finding is connection. So is a warm introduction to an alum three industries over when a graduate is trying to make a pivot. So is a mid-career alum getting a call from their school during a layoff instead of during a giving campaign. None of that emerges from a network you merely have. It comes from one someone is responsible for. It’s worth being honest about why this is hard. The nostalgia model is easier to run and easier to measure. Attendance is a clean number. A mentoring match that pays off four years later is not. The infrastructure costs more than the events do, and the return shows up on a timeline that doesn’t fit an annual report. So the work that alumni say they want, the networking and the mentoring and the career help, stays in the category of things everyone hopes will happen on their own. Advancement professionals already understand the underlying principle. Third-time event attendance is one of the strongest predictors of future major-gift behavior. An alum who keeps coming back is telling you something. But institutions that obsess over bringing people back for the social weekend rarely apply the same rigor to bringing them back for the thing that compounds over a career. The relationship that produces a major gift years later often starts with the institution being useful much earlier, and usefulness is increasingly about work. Underneath nearly everything Busteed talked about was the same idea: relationships matter. From his Gallup research forward, the students who thrive are the ones who had a mentor, a real connection, a person who encouraged them. The mistake is hearing that as a student-experience problem that ends at graduation. It doesn’t end there. The alumni network is where relationship-rich is supposed to keep going, and at most institutions it stops the day the diploma is handed over. If the early career ladder is breaking, the alumni network is one of the few structures positioned to put rungs back. Whether it can depends on whether an institution treats it as a standing asset to maintain or a list of names to mine when the campaign clock starts. What are you doing at your institution to address the changing career? Share your thoughts in the comments. Dave Hail is a fundraising strategist and storyteller who works with nonprofits and institutions to design stronger donor relationships and more effective engagement strategies. His work focuses on helping teams move beyond transactional communication toward systems that support long-term connection and growth. His perspective sits at the intersection of strategy, systems, and storytelling, with a focus on helping organizations act with greater clarity and intention. Dave is a lifelong learner, husband and dad, and lives in Oklahoma. Big Themes This Week * One relationship-rich, work-integrated experience roughly doubles a graduate’s odds of a good job and lifelong engagement but it reaches fewer than a third of students. The issue isn’t whether it works; it’s that no one has scaled it. * The early rungs of the career ladder — summer jobs, internships, entry-level roles — have been eroding for a decade, and AI is now accelerating it. * “Lifelong learning” is the most common phrase in mission statements, and schools do almost nothing to deliver on it. A degree could be evergreen, not a four-year burst. * With more supply than demand, differentiation is now survival but only if an institution is authentic to its value proposition and can deliver it. * Career readiness and the liberal arts aren’t opposites. Employers want graduates who are both broadly educated and specifically skilled. Team Discussion Questions * If work-integrated learning is this powerful, what’s actually stopping us from scaling it? Resources, buy-in, or that no one owns it? * As entry-level roles erode, what role should we and our alumni play in securing applied-learning opportunities for students? * What would treating the degree as “evergreen” look like for us, and what would have to change in how we engage alumni? * Could we name our institution’s signature in one sentence and would our alumni describe it the same way? * Where does work-integrated learning sit on our campus, and is it positioned to be core to the student experience rather than an add-on? Coming Up: The Next Agora: Developing Leadership Presence Our next Agora will be about these themes and more. Title:Developing Leadership Presence: Inspire with Confidence, Credibility, and Trust Date & Time:Friday, June 26 from 12-1 pm ET. Speaker:Mo Cotton Kelly, Chief People Officer and Senior Vice President, Alumni Relations at the UConn Foundation. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe [https://www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

17 Jun 2026 - 5 min
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The Early Career Rungs are Breaking

What if your degree never expired — not as a credential, but as a relationship you kept using for the rest of your life? In this Keynote, Brandon Busteed — CEO of Edconic and former head of education at Gallup and Kaplan — joins Ryan to rethink what higher ed is really for. Watch the full-length version on YouTube (53 mins) [https://youtu.be/t8orNvDCztU] Drawing on the landmark Gallup-Purdue Index, the largest study of college graduates in U.S. history, he explains why a single relationship-rich, work-integrated experience can double a graduate's odds of a good job and a lifetime of engagement, yet still reaches fewer than a third of students. Along the way they dig into the breaking "early rungs" of the career ladder and explore the benefits of the co-op model. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe [https://www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

15 Jun 2026 - 37 min
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Closing Remarks - Week 7 - The Alumni Board We Really Need

The message from Nathan Chappell in The Generosity Crisis and reinforced in his interview on the Keynote podcast is that the focus must be on creating Radical Connection. Alumni and donors need to feel emotionally connected with their alma mater, and that spirit has been waning amongst graduates of more recent decades. So how do we go about doing this? What’s the best way to create a more meaningful connection between alumni and the school? Most colleges, universities, and independent K-12 schools already have an alumni board. Sometimes the board has a fiduciary responsibility to a 501(c)(3) non-profit, but it’s often the case that the alumni board is an informal council or advisory committee comprised of graduates. Alumni boards of this type have been essential over the years, and I believe they still are. But for the real connectivity to get stimulated. For the actual spark needed to move a university from transactional to relational, a standing committee comprised of institutional leadership from both the administration and the academy is required. The steering committee should also include students and alumni volunteers and serve as a working group. The purpose of the body is to champion student-alumni connections. Every educational organization needs this type of steering committee to begin creating the kind of experience involving alumni and donors that will resonate across campus, reach the far corners, and include online learners as well. This structure is needed to help create and deliver a framework that guides enterprise-wide engagement and maximizes the impact alumni can have across all aspects of the institution. The committee I’m describing also sends the signal from the school’s president that alumni engagement is imperative to reach all the school’s enrollment, career outcomes, and philanthropy objectives. Said more plainly, alumni engagement must be everyone’s responsibility, and senior leadership can make it so. A guiding committee both sends the signal and creates stronger internal collaboration. To create the Radical Connection that Nathan Chappell and his co-authors are describing, something different needs to happen on campus. A focused, ongoing, and collaborative effort is what’s needed. The new committee needs to be responsible for ensuring that alumni-ness is elevated and strategically layered onto student experiences — from perspective to Commencement and beyond. It’s not that our Alumni Association Board of Directors can’t be helpful, but these bodies, fiduciary or not, simply cannot affect change in the same way. An Alumni Association Board of Directors should support the Commission with a more tailored set of strategies and tactics. The Alumni Office itself is important in helping keep the trains running on time, but every unit on campus should have an engagement strategy that connects with an overarching approach. I can hear the groans already of university leadership asked to sit on another committee, but this one is one of the few that can truly drive all the university’s key measurables and desired outcomes. I don’t think this committee can be ad hoc or raised as a commission and then disassembled. There’s an ongoing need for strong coordination across the university; alumni will have the chance to really help students. About Speaking Engagement This week we launched our Book Club. I’m super excited to lead a regular book study and take the time to discuss the themes in small groups. We have 27 individuals who either submitted the interest form I sent in my newsletter or who indicated interest on their onboarding survey. The group includes members from all over the world. The Book Club experience will be delivered for members through moderated chat, Breakout podcasts, and a live event that completes the study. This was an exciting week, with Nathan Chappell as the Keynote and kicking off the Book Club with The Generosity Crisis. You guys having fun yet?! About the next Keynote On Monday, my special guest on the Keynote is Brandon Busteed. I’ve been an admirer of Brandon’s work in the higher ed space for a long time and I’m sure many listeners have been too. He’s been an advocate for applied work opportunities, particularly internships, for college students during his tenure at Gallup, then at Kaplan, and now as the CEO of Edconic. Brandon is also a write regularly for Fortune. Enjoy the weekend! See you next week. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe [https://www.speakingengagement.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

12 Jun 2026 - 4 min
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