Papal History, Wild Pope Facts & Inside Intel on Pope Leo XIV with Matt from The Popecast
🇻🇦He named all four of his sons after Popes — Leo, Gregory, Nicholas, and John Paul — and he's a contractor who fixes toilets by day. Matt from The Popecast joins Liv in The LIVing Room for one of the most surprisingly moving conversations about papal history, faith, and what it actually feels like to "meet God on the way down." Matt opens up about his first marriage, a quick annulment, and how sitting in a Starbucks writing six and a half single-spaced pages finally gave him peace beyond understanding.
They also dig into the Pope who accidentally kicked off the Reformation with a pet elephant, why Pope Leo XIV's Lutheran best friends still call him "Bob," and what the loneliness epidemic looks like from the front seat of a contractor's truck. This one's for you if you've ever loved the Church but felt like the mess of your life didn't quite fit the story.
Guest Bio:
Matt is the creator of The Popecast, a podcast and Instagram account dedicated to papal history with a mission to remind people that the chaos of today is nothing new in the life of the Church. He launched the podcast in 2018 after writing a daily email series on the full history of the papacy, and his Instagram following has grown larger than his podcast audience — a fact he finds equal parts ironic and delightful. By day, Matt runs a small remodeling company in the Diocese of Spokane; by night, he digs into 2,000 years of Church history. He and his wife are expecting their fourth child, whose name — John Paul — was never really in question.
In This Episode:
00:00 Mystery Face Reveal: Matt Finally Shows Up on the Internet
01:20 What Is The Popecast? Papal History, Instagram, and One Man's Anxiety Cure
03:30 The Hiatus, Pope Francis Dying, and Getting Back in the Game
04:00 Father Rich from Duluth and the World's Largest Private Papal Collection
05:00 How Marilys and the Conclave Put Matt on Liv's Radar
06:00 "Aggressively Normal Catholicism" — Matt's Approach to Faith Online
07:30 Faith Journey: Growing Up Catholic in Montana, Carroll College, and FOCUS
09:00 The 2013 SEEK Conference That Changed Everything
09:45 "I Met God on the Way Up, Got to Know Him on the Way Down"
10:30 The First Marriage, the Divorce, and What Nobody Talks About at Mass
12:00 Pope Francis, the Annulment Process, and Why Matt Defends It
15:30 Starbucks, Six and a Half Pages, and Peace Beyond All Understanding
18:00 Contractor by Day, Pope Nerd by Night — What Self-Employment Actually Looks Like
20:00 Digital Life vs. Real Life: What the Loneliness Epidemic Looks Like from a Truck
22:00 The Widow with the Alzheimer's Husband and the Cup of Coffee That Matters
24:30 Historian of Real Life — Teaching Kids to Reverence Old People and Old Things
25:30 Meet the Kids: Leo, Gregory, Nicholas, and Baby John Paul
27:30 Pope Leo XIV, "Bob," and His Lutheran Best Friends Who Called It 46 Years Ago
31:30 The Wildest Pope Facts: A Pet Elephant and Death by Eel
35:00 The Pope Who Founded Western Civilization: Gregory the Great Explained
40:00 Five Popes at the Mac and Cheese Dinner Table
46:30 How Can We Pray for You? Matt's Request and Closing Prayer
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