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The Science That Feeds Us

Podcast by Katie Sanders and Bhavisha Gulabrai

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Technology & science

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The story behind what's on your plate.

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24 episodes

episode Strawberry Thoughts: Where Philosophy Meets Science and Agriculture artwork

Strawberry Thoughts: Where Philosophy Meets Science and Agriculture

In this episode, Katie and Bhavisha take a step away from the data and into the harder, often unspoken questions that shape science communication in practice. We reflect on what it means to do this work in spaces where expertise, public values, and lived experience do not always align, and where simply presenting the facts falls short. Drawing on our own experiences, we talk through moments where advocating for evidence can feel at odds with maintaining trust, and where stakeholder perspectives surface real tensions around trade-offs, not just misunderstandings. We also unpack the role of social media in shaping how science is shared, interpreted, and challenged, and how these platforms can both amplify and complicate communication efforts. Throughout the conversation, we come back to the idea that these tensions are not problems to solve, but conditions to work within, and that learning to sit with them is part of becoming a more thoughtful and effective communicator. Learn more about our work below: Katie Sanders’ NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/catherine-sanders/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/catherine-sanders/]  Bhavisha Gulabrai’s NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/bhavisha-gulabrai/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/bhavisha-gulabrai/]  Hub for Food Systems Communication and Engagement: https://units.cals.ncsu.edu/food-systems-comm-hub/ [https://units.cals.ncsu.edu/food-systems-comm-hub/]  UC Berkeley- The real process of science: https://undsci.berkeley.edu/understanding-science-101/how-science-works/the-real-process-of-science/  The Science That Feeds Us podcast brings together extension agents, faculty specialists, and scientists for interdisciplinary conversations on emerging trends in agriculture and the food system. Designed to inform and engage both professionals and curious consumers, we highlight the stories behind the science to build deeper connections to food and agriculture research. The Science That Feeds Us is supported by NC State Extension and NC State University. Edited and Produced by: Bhavisha Gulabrai Music: Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm [https://transistor.fm/?via=music]. Learn how to start a podcast [https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/?via=music] here.

15 May 2026 - 48 min
episode Glyphosate Uncovered: Evaluating Controversial Products artwork

Glyphosate Uncovered: Evaluating Controversial Products

In this episode, Dr. Melinda Knuth joins us to unpack the science and social dynamics behind glyphosate, one of the most widely used and debated weed control products. Dr. Knuth explains what glyphosate is, how it works, and how recent lawsuits, questions about scientific transparency, and differing global health conclusions have contributed to public uncertainty. From a consumer behavior perspective, we explore how trust, social media, and peer-to-peer communication shape public perceptions more than traditional institutions. We also discuss how personal values, including preferences for “natural” and organic products, influence decision making and contribute to common misunderstandings about pesticide use. Finally, the conversation highlights how both consumers and producers weigh effectiveness, cost, and safety along with the role of affordability and social factors. Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on scientific uncertainty and how clear, transparent communication can help people navigate complex issues.  Learn more about Dr. Knuth’s work below: NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/horticultural-science/people/mjknuth/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/horticultural-science/people/mjknuth/]  Check out the following resources to learn more about today’s topic: “Journal retracts weed killer study backed by Monsanto, citing ‘serious ethical concerns’”: https://www.science.org/content/article/journal-retracts-weed-killer-study-backed-monsanto-citing-serious-ethical-concerns [https://www.science.org/content/article/journal-retracts-weed-killer-study-backed-monsanto-citing-serious-ethical-concerns]  “Retraction notice to ‘Safety evaluation and risk assessment of the herbicide roundup and its active ingredient, glyphosate, for humans’ [Regul. Toxicol. Pharm. 31 (2000) 117-165]”: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230025002387 [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230025002387]  Article- “Not your mother’s Roundup”: https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/not-your-mothers-roundup [https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/not-your-mothers-roundup]  Environmental Protection Agency- Glyphosate: https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/glyphosate [https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/glyphosate]  Joint FAO/WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues: https://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/agphome/documents/Pests_Pesticides/JMPR/2016_JMPR_Summary_Special.pdf [https://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/agphome/documents/Pests_Pesticides/JMPR/2016_JMPR_Summary_Special.pdf]  "What to know about the battle over lawsuits alleging that Roundup weedkiller can cause cancer": https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/nation-world/what-to-know-about-the-battle-over-lawsuits-alleging-that-roundup-weedkiller-can-cause-cancer/article_77f35d43-663e-5141-a97d-a62255203f68.html [https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/nation-world/what-to-know-about-the-battle-over-lawsuits-alleging-that-roundup-weedkiller-can-cause-cancer/article_77f35d43-663e-5141-a97d-a62255203f68.html]  The Science That Feeds Us podcast brings together extension agents, faculty specialists, and scientists for interdisciplinary conversations on emerging trends in agriculture and the food system. Designed to inform and engage both professionals and curious consumers, we highlight the stories behind the science to build deeper connections to food and agriculture research. The Science That Feeds Us is supported by NC State Extension and NC State University. Edited and Produced by: Bhavisha Gulabrai Music: Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm [https://transistor.fm/?via=music]. Learn how to start a podcast [https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/?via=music] here.

1 May 2026 - 30 min
episode Food Safety 101: How Science Keeps Your Food Safe to Eat artwork

Food Safety 101: How Science Keeps Your Food Safe to Eat

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ellen Shumaker to explore the science behind food safety and the systems that protect our food from farm to fork. Dr. Shumaker breaks down what food safety really means from a scientific perspective, how research informs cooking temperatures and storage guidelines, and why simple tools like food thermometers and refrigerator thermometers matter more than we think. We dive into common consumer risks at home and unpack which food safety fears are grounded in science and which are often overstated. Dr. Shumaker also shares insights behind regulations like the FDA Food Code, the role of food safety culture in businesses, and how effective risk communication during recalls and outbreaks helps maintain public trust. Tune in to hear why culture matters just as much as protocols, how to confidently handle leftovers, and why seeing a recall in the news can actually be a sign that the system is working as intended.  Learn more about Dr. Shumaker’s work below: NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/ellen-shumaker/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/ellen-shumaker/]  Check out the following resources to learn more about today’s topic: NC State’s Safe Plates: https://foodsafety.ces.ncsu.edu/safe-plates-5/ [https://foodsafety.ces.ncsu.edu/safe-plates-5/]  NC State’s Safe Plates Food Safety Information Center: https://foodsafety.ces.ncsu.edu/safe-plates-food-safety-information-center/ [https://foodsafety.ces.ncsu.edu/safe-plates-food-safety-information-center/]  Food Safety: https://www.foodsafety.gov/ [https://www.foodsafety.gov/]  Risky or Not Podcast: https://www.riskyornot.co/ [https://www.riskyornot.co/]  The Science That Feeds Us podcast brings together extension agents, faculty specialists, and scientists for interdisciplinary conversations on emerging trends in agriculture and the food system. Designed to inform and engage both professionals and curious consumers, we highlight the stories behind the science to build deeper connections to food and agriculture research. The Science That Feeds Us is supported by NC State Extension and NC State University. Edited and Produced by: Bhavisha Gulabrai Music: Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm [https://transistor.fm/?via=music]. Learn how to start a podcast [https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/?via=music] here.

17 Apr 2026 - 28 min
episode Land-Grant Universities and Extension: Bringing Research to Your Community artwork

Land-Grant Universities and Extension: Bringing Research to Your Community

In part three of our land-grant series, we turn to the final pillar of the land-grant mission: Extension. We’re joined by Dr. Annie Hardison-Moody and Dr. Misty Blue-Terry to explore how Extension connects research and teaching directly to communities across North Carolina. Together, they explain what Cooperative Extension is, why it was created, and how it continues to serve as the outreach arm of land-grant universities. We also discuss the distinct historical foundations of NC State and NC A&T State, and how their partnership strengthens impact across the state. Throughout the episode, we highlight how Extension translates research into practical solutions, builds long-term relationships with communities, and addresses modern challenges in agriculture, food systems, and public health. Tune in to learn why Extension remains a vital, people-centered force within the land-grant mission.  Learn more about Dr. Hardison-Moody’s work below: NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/annie-hardison-moody/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/annie-hardison-moody/]  Learn more about Dr. Blue-Terry’s work below: NC A&T State University Bio Page: https://sswd.center/teams/misty-blue-terry-phd/ [https://sswd.center/teams/misty-blue-terry-phd/]  Check out the following resources to learn more about today’s topic: National Archives- Morrill Act (1862): https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/morrill-act [https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/morrill-act]  Historical Sketch of NC State University: https://www.lib.ncsu.edu/scrc/university-historical-sketch [https://www.lib.ncsu.edu/scrc/university-historical-sketch]  NC State Extension: https://www.ces.ncsu.edu/ [https://www.ces.ncsu.edu/]  “Our Blues Make Us Gold” Documentary: https://www.ncat.edu/news/2024/08/our-blues-make-us-gold.php [https://www.ncat.edu/news/2024/08/our-blues-make-us-gold.php]  USDA Cooperative Extension History: https://www.nifa.usda.gov/about-nifa/what-we-do/extension/cooperative-extension-history [https://www.nifa.usda.gov/about-nifa/what-we-do/extension/cooperative-extension-history]  NC A&T State University “A Rich History”: https://www.ncat.edu/caes/cooperative-extension/history.php [https://www.ncat.edu/caes/cooperative-extension/history.php]  NC A&T State University “1890 Programs and Initiatives”: https://www.ncat.edu/caes/morrill-act/programs-and-initiatives.php#:~:text=Agriculture%20(NIFA)%20.-,Today%2C%20the%201890s%20Foundation%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9C19%20Strong%2C%E2%80%9D,Food%20and%20Agriculture%20(NIFA) [https://www.ncat.edu/caes/morrill-act/programs-and-initiatives.php#:~:text=Agriculture%20(NIFA)%20.-,Today%2C%20the%201890s%20Foundation%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9C19%20Strong%2C%E2%80%9D,Food%20and%20Agriculture%20(NIFA)].  The Science That Feeds Us podcast brings together extension agents, faculty specialists, and scientists for interdisciplinary conversations on emerging trends in agriculture and the food system. Designed to inform and engage both professionals and curious consumers, we highlight the stories behind the science to build deeper connections to food and agriculture research. The Science That Feeds Us is supported by NC State Extension and NC State University. Edited and Produced by: Bhavisha Gulabrai Music: Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm [https://transistor.fm/?via=music]. Learn how to start a podcast [https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/?via=music] here.

3 Apr 2026 - 50 min
episode Land-Grant Universities and Teaching: How They Shape the Next Generation artwork

Land-Grant Universities and Teaching: How They Shape the Next Generation

In part two of our land-grant series, Dr. Joseph Donaldson joins us to explore what makes land-grant teaching distinct from other higher education models. From the federal mandate that defines land-grant institutions to the balance of theory and hands-on learning reflected in mottos like “Think and Do,” Dr. Donaldson explains how land-grant programs intentionally prepare students for real-world careers. We discuss how land-grant teaching supports workforce development, strengthens communities, and integrates research and Extension into student learning. Dr. Donaldson shares examples from across the country, reflects on the people-centered nature of land-grant education, and emphasizes how academic programs help students align their interests with meaningful careers in agriculture and food systems. This episode offers a deeper look at how teaching at land-grant universities builds career-ready graduates and sustains the systems that feed, clothe, and support us all. Learn more about Dr. Donaldson’s work below: NC State Bio Page: https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/joseph-donaldson/ [https://cals.ncsu.edu/agricultural-and-human-sciences/people/joseph-donaldson/]  Check out the following resources to learn more about today’s topic: Career Pathways Matrix: https://careerpathways.ces.ncsu.edu/career-pathways-matrix/ [https://careerpathways.ces.ncsu.edu/career-pathways-matrix/]   The Science That Feeds Us podcast brings together extension agents, faculty specialists, and scientists for interdisciplinary conversations on emerging trends in agriculture and the food system. Designed to inform and engage both professionals and curious consumers, we highlight the stories behind the science to build deeper connections to food and agriculture research. The Science That Feeds Us is supported by NC State Extension and NC State University. Edited and Produced by: Bhavisha Gulabrai Music: Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm [https://transistor.fm/?via=music]. Learn how to start a podcast [https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/?via=music] here.

3 Apr 2026 - 29 min
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