We Are Art People in conversation with Musa Guston Mayer
Musa Guston Mayer is a writer, curator, breast cancer advocate and President of The Guston Foundation, living in Woodstock, NY. She is the daughter of the formidable painter, Philip Guston (1913-1980) and her Mother is, painter and poet Musa McKim Guston (1908-1992). Since his passing in 1980, alongside a team of committed champions of Guston’s work, Musa has been involved in shaping her Father’s legacy, who is recognized today as a Modern Master. Not bad, sonny. Pas mal
While pursing an MFA in writing at Columbia University, Musa published her first title — an intimate memoir, Night Studio (1988) — grounded in a personal account of being the daughter of Philip Guston. Musa’s process of writing as a way of self discovery and to deepen her understanding of who her father was, evokes an awareness of the fragility and beauty of life, through what feels to be a natural inclination for storytelling. Originally trained as a mental health counselor, Musa authored several books reflecting her journey and diagnosis with breast cancer; Examining Myself: One Woman's Story of Breast Cancer Treatment (1994) Recovery, Advanced Breast Cancer: A Guide to Living with Metastatic Disease (1998) and After Breast Cancer: Answers to the Questions You're Afraid to Ask(2003). She has curated exhibitions, and published amongst others, the award winning catalogue ‘Philip Guston: Nixon Drawings, 1971 & 1975’. Night Studio remains in print after 37 years.
We discuss the fragility and nature of living closely to an inner life, storytelling as an act towards activism and social-political commentary, and the value of Musa’s promised gift of 220 ‘Not.For.Sale’ paintings to The Metropolitan Museum of Art [https://www.metmuseum.org/press-releases/philip-guston-gift-2022-news], for scholarship and in support of her Father's legacy. The Guston Foundation continues to further a dialogue with Philip Guston, to a wider public. Upcoming projects include an audiobook of Night Studio, narrated by Musa Guston Mayer (2027) and publishing the Journals of Musa McKim Guston, A Life with P. (2026).
Links:
@the_guston_foundation [https://www.instagram.com/the_guston_foundation]
www.philipguston.org [www.philipguston.org]
https://www.youtube.com/@TheGustonFoundation [https://www.youtube.com/@TheGustonFoundation]
Show notes:
Restoration of "The Struggle Against Terrorism [https://youtu.be/wIeSMuW2XMQ?si=GKDNAKtFt4Xcih5o]", by Philip Guston and Reuben Kadish, Morelia, MX.
Musée Picasso [https://www.museepicassoparis.fr/] — Philip Guston: The Irony of History [opens October 14 2025]
Arensberg Collection [https://philamuseum.org/collection/curated/arensberg]
Scottsboro Boys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottsboro_Boys [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottsboro_Boys]
Ira Progoff "Intensive Journal Method"
Giorgio de Chirico, The Gladiators' School: the Combat [1928]
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