How I Built This with Guy Raz

Advice Line with Todd Graves of Raising Cane's

Raising Cane’s founder Todd Graves joins Guy on the Advice Line to answer questions from three early-stage founders who are each considering a big, next step to grow their businesses. First, Evan in Texas wants to know if he should franchise drive-thrus for his coffee business. Then, David in St. Louis is trying to get around dents in his financial history to secure financing for his pasta company. And finally, Shane in Los Angeles is weighing the pros and cons of opening a brick-and-mortar restaurant for his focaccia sandwich retail and catering concept. Thank you to the founders of Whiskey Morning Coffee, Midwest Pasta Company, and Vesti for being a part of our show. If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to the founding story of Raising Cane’s [https://wondery.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episode/10386-raising-canes-todd-graves/] as told by Todd on the show in 2022. This episode was produced by Alex Cheng with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Andrea Bruce. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley. You can follow HIBT on X [https://twitter.com/HowIBuiltThis] & Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/howibuiltthis] and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com [http://guyraz.com] or on Substack [https://guyraz.substack.com/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever

Exploding Kittens began as a jerry-rigged version of Russian Roulette — a deck of cards hastily modified with a Sharpie. But what happened next is one of the most improbable success stories in the creator economy: a $10,000 Kickstarter goal that ballooned into nearly $9 million, a community that rewrote the rules of crowdfunding, and a company that has now sold over 60 million card and board games. Co-founder Elan Lee shares the story behind Exploding Kittens — from dismantling his brother’s toys as a kid, to helping design Halo, to walking away from Microsoft…twice. He reveals how burnout, curiosity, and an obsession with interactive storytelling set the stage for one of the most successful game launches of all time. This is a story about the genius behind good marketing, and how creative storytelling can build a cult-like audience — without spending millions. If you’ve ever wondered how a strange idea becomes a global phenomenon — this is that story. WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:  * How burnout can be a creative turning point * How a Sharpie and a deck of cards can unlock breakthrough ideas * The storytelling strategy that powered one of Kickstarter’s biggest launches * How to treat your fans like collaborators, not just customers * Why marketing should feel like play * Unit economics to die for: make it for $2, sell it for $20 * How to power through the threat of a one-hit-wonder TIMESTAMPS: * 00:08:30 — The physics teacher who changed Elan’s life * 00:10:35 — How Elan touched up the floating door scene in Titanic * 00:13:03 — “You’re the worst program manager I’ve ever seen” — and the pivot to game design * 00:15:33 — Meeting Spielberg, riffing on the movie AI, and inventing a new kind of storytelling * 00:21:42 — Promoting Halo 2 with payphones  * 00:31:35 — The Hawaii getaway that sparked Exploding Kittens * 00:42:12 — The Kickstarter launch: most backers on record * 00:48:42 — Suddenly a real company — 700,000 decks and a manufacturing crisis * 00:53:45 — Marketing genius: a kitty-cat vending machine that dispensed burritos and more * 01:00:58 — New games that bombed — the one-hit-wonder dread * 01:07:04 — Throw Throw Burrito, and the road to stability * 01:19:05 — Elan’s 4-year-old daughter helps design new games * 01:30:31 — Small Business Spotlight Hey—want to be a guest on HIBT? If you’re building a business, why not get advice from some of the greatest entrepreneurs on Earth? Every Thursday on the HIBT Advice Line, a previous HIBT guest helps new entrepreneurs work through the challenges they’re facing right now. Advice that’s smart, actionable, and absolutely free. Just call 1-800-433-1298, leave a message, and you may soon get guidance from someone who started where you did, and went on to build something massive. So—give us a call. We can’t wait to hear what you’re working on. This episode was produced by Sam Paulson with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant with research help from Noor Gill. Our engineers were Maggie Luthar and Kwesi Lee. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Advice Line with Bobby Trussell of Tempur-Pedic

Tempur-Pedic founder Bobby Trussell joins Guy on the Advice Line to answer questions from three early-stage founders. Plus, Bobby talks about his new book, The Logic That God Exists. First, Lyf from Oregon asks about how to expand his fresh seafood business. Then, Colleen from Colorado has questions about where to focus her efforts in growing her whitewater paddleboarding company. And finally, Amanda from Illinois looks for advice on fundraising for her lifejacket brand.  Thank you to the founders of Flying Fish Company, Hala Gear, and Line + Cleat for being a part of our show. If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com [hibt@id.wondery.com] or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to Tempur-Pedic’s founding story [https://wondery.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episode/10386-tempur-pedic-bobby-trussell/] as told by Bobby on the show in 2018.  This episode was produced by Chris Maccini with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Andrea Bruce. Our audio engineer was Cena Loffredo. You can follow HIBT on X [https://twitter.com/HowIBuiltThis] & Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/howibuiltthis] and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com [http://guyraz.com/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

93 Rejections, One Revolution: How Indiegogo Changed Crowdfunding Forever

What happens when three outsiders try to reinvent access to money… during the worst financial crisis in decades? Before Kickstarter. Before GoFundMe. Before crowdfunding became a thing, there was Indiegogo, an idea born from frustration, inequity, and more than 93 rejections from investors. It was a funding platform built not for banks, studios or gatekeepers… but for everybody else. In this episode, co-founders Danae Ringelmann and Slava Rubin reveal the unpolished and often painful story behind Indiegogo — from digging into savings accounts, to fighting over strategy, to grinning and bearing it when their idea was dismissed as “cute.”  You’ll hear how their mission was shaped by loss of parents, financial instability, and a fundamental belief in fairness. How the 2008 crash nearly killed the company before it began. And how in the end, Indiegogo helped spark a massive cultural shift—proving that anyone, anywhere, could bring an idea to life. WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:  * How gatekeepers underestimate outsiders’ ideas * How grief and personal history shape entrepreneurial courage * How to recover from 93 “no’s”  * Why making money matters, but maintaining your values matters even more  * How co-founder conflict can sharpen (or break) a company * Why Indiegogo didn’t become Kickstarter — and what founders can learn from that * How to know when it’s time to walk away from your own company TIMESTAMPS:  0:05:34 - Slava’s childhood, and the deep loss that shaped his worldview 0:09:00 - Danae’s first lesson in leadership… from her dad’s moving business 0:12:43 - “Hollywood Meets Wall Street:” the emotional spark that led to Indiegogo 0:18:43 - The Golden Gate conversation where Slava asked, “Why not put this on the internet?“  0:32:56 - Building Indiegogo: mismatched personalities, big arguments, and the first 10 campaigns 0:40:22 - The 2008 crash hits: 93 investor rejections and many moments of truth 0:46:53 - Expanding beyond film: the inevitable pivot that ignited explosive growth 0:54:04 - Internal evolution: roles, titles, hires, and the first taste of real scale  0:59:56 - Why the founders eventually stepped away — and why some opportunities were squandered 1:05:19 - The legacy: how Indiegogo reshaped culture, creativity, and opportunity 1:09:44 - Bonus: Small Business Spotlight  This episode was produced by Katherine Sypher, with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant, with research help from Chris Maccini. Our engineers were Patrick Murray and Jimmy Keeley. Follow How I Built This: Instagram → @howibuiltthis [https://www.instagram.com/howibuiltthis/] X → @HowIBuiltThis [https://x.com/howibuiltthis] Facebook → How I Built This [https://www.facebook.com/howibuiltthis] Follow Guy Raz: Instagram → @guy.raz [https://www.instagram.com/guy.raz/] YouTube → guy_raz [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNSfrxNEmCruNtjIzxCBHjg] X → @guyraz [https://x.com/guyraz] Substack → https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/guyraz.substack.com__;!!Iwwt!RZoD751oWzUzoqqdJiqaoL6HdJfRHDUO1TKvYJ424d3Udn7-Pw9Nj6nEsauh9zcgEvLjUEc$guyraz.substack.com [http://guyraz.substack.com] Website → https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/guyraz.substack.com__;!!Iwwt!RZoD751oWzUzoqqdJiqaoL6HdJfRHDUO1TKvYJ424d3Udn7-Pw9Nj6nEsauh9zcgEvLjUEc$guyraz.com [http://guyraz.com] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Advice Line with Scott Tannen of Boll & Branch and Jamie Siminoff of Ring

CEO and co-founder of Boll & Branch, Scott Tannen joins Ring founder Jamie Siminoff and Guy on the Advice Line to answer questions from three early-stage entrepreneurs. Plus, Jamie and Guy talk about how creating repeat customers often comes from creating social good.   First, we hear from Melita in Toronto who's wondering whether to continue bootstrapping her organic clothing business. Then Eric in the Sunshine State asks which direction to take to grow his sunscreen apparel lines. And Chris in Alpine Meadows, California, is trying to figure out how to get his sleek binoculars into the hands of more people. Thank you to the founders of Q for Quinn, L Cubed Lifestyle, and Nocs Provisions.  If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to the story of how Jamie founded Ring [https://wondery.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episode/10386-ring-jamie-siminoff/] from our episode back in 2020, as well as his appearance on the Advice Line [https://wondery.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episode/10386-advice-line-with-jamie-siminoff-of-ring] in 2024.. And how Scott and his wife Missy started Boll & Branch [https://wondery.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episode/10386-boll-amp-branch-scott-and-missy-tannen/], a story they told on the show in 2024. This episode was produced by J.C. Howard with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Andrea Bruce. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley. You can follow HIBT on Twitter [https://twitter.com/HowIBuiltThis] & Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/howibuiltthis] and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com [http://guyraz.com/] and on Substack [https://guyraz.substack.com/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].