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Josh Sabey and Sarah Perkins: The Government Took Their Children Without a Warrant

8 min · 9 de jun de 2026
Portada del episodio Josh Sabey and Sarah Perkins: The Government Took Their Children Without a Warrant

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When their infant son developed a fever, Josh Sabey and Sarah Perkins rushed him to the emergency room. Just 36 hours later, child welfare and police officers arrived at their home at 1 a.m. and removed their two young children—without a warrant or court order. On this episode of American Heroes, Josh and Sarah share the devastating impact of that night, their fight to reunite their family, and why they chose to challenge the government's actions in court. Their case raises important questions about parental rights, due process, and the constitutional protections every family should be able to rely on.

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