Change Order Podcast

This AI Startup Is Changing How Call Centers Work Forever

1 h 27 min · 5 de dic de 2025
Portada del episodio This AI Startup Is Changing How Call Centers Work Forever

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When’s the last time you had a good customer experience? Alex Levin, Co-founder and CEO of Regal AI, is building AI Phone Agents that handle millions of customer calls for a small fraction of the cost, and drive higher customer satisfaction.  In this episode with Jason Shuman, Levin gets into: • why companies moved away from phone calls despite customer demand. • how legacy vendors decided voice wasn’t worth improving. • why AI voice is now cheaper and more consistent than humans. • what slows big companies from adopting voice AI. • how AI handles the tier-1 work while humans focus on harder problems. Connect with us here: 1. Alex Levin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin1 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin1] 2. Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/] 3. Change Order: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/] 4. Primary Venture Partners: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/]

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Portada del episodio This AI Startup Is Changing How Call Centers Work Forever

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